GROUP BUY: USB CONSULT!

[elwesso]

So i've been working with a NICO member, he should be chiming in soon.

We are putting together a group buy for Q45 owners (or whoever else wants to join in) to buy USB consults. These have been tested on G50s and they work great. Q451990 (Heath) will probably chime in soon, as he tested one of our prototypes....

Price will be $80 per board, LIMIT 10. The only thing you will need to get is a standard USB cable (the one you probably have laying around or the one you can buy for a couple bux) and some software (some is free, some you can buy for more features)...

The only thing you cannot do with this is access the BCM, which means you cannot do self diagnosis for things like the cruise control, doors, and so on... It is also not compatible with the ACTIVE SUSPENSION. This is not a limitation of the board, but rather the software available. If you can find someone to write the software (or write the software) it will work for those things too...

Please post up if you're interested or have any questions.

[Jesda]

OOOH!AHHH!

This is awesome.

[pdqwrx]

Wes- So these will come with the consult plug attached and a USB port to plug our cable into? I just bought a NISTune unit so I don't know that I will need one but I have several friends that might. I may also be interested if it will work with my 240sx software. The NISTune unit is a Serial and my lap top dose not have a serial port so the USB would be nice if it will work. Is this being built by someone on NICO or a third party?

CheersScott

[elwesso]

If your software is consult compatible im sure it will work, i dont know anything about nistune.

The unit comes with a genuine consult connector and then it plugs into a regular USB cable.

It is being built by a NICO member.

[slipnfall]

Hi Folks, My name is Jamie, I'm the guy supplying the CONSULT boards. Feel free to fire any technical or compatibility questions my way: direct any logistical questions towards Wes.

pdqwrx: The Nistune CONSULT portions should work with this adaptor: my board uses a USB-to-UART bridge which means it 'emulates' a standard RS232 port. That being said you already have the CONSULT hardware interface, you just need a USB-based RS232 port(they can be had online for $15-20). Please note that my board will *not* do tuning like the interface you have there: this is purely a diagnostic interface!

These certainly work on 91-96 S13/S14s: I use one on my own S13. It doesn't matter what engine either, as long as your ECU that is mated to that engine supports CONSULT functionality(remember, there are many foreign versions of our Nis/Inf's)

I should also note I will be personally backing these boards with a 90day money back warranty/guarantee: if you aren't satisfied with the quality, don't think it is of any use, or it happens to not work, just pay to sent it back and you'll be refunded your full purchase price.

Here's a few quick pictures:

inside:

I'll post some more relevant info up tomorrow.

Cheers,Jamie
Modified by slipnfall at 11:10 PM 3/8/2007

[Q451990]

I tested one today and it worked nicely! I tried it out with several software packages... Conzult, DDLReader, OBD Scan Tech Nissan (my personal favorite so far), Calumsult, and Nissan Data Scan v1.52. The thing I like about the OBD Scan Tech software is that it recognizes all 8 cylinders. The evaluation software only allows you to kill cylinder 1 in the power balance type test, but I've been told that the full version will do all eight. The full version costs $28 - so I'll buy it and write a review as soon as I have my permanant interface. I was able to view the coolant temp, MAF voltage (could be very useful to diagnose problems with the connector or intermittant MAF), IAC (AAC) duty cycle, TPS output voltage, O2 sensor output voltage (and watch the lean/rich flips), and a bunch of other stuff.

I've got to say, this is very exciting! I've been wanting a way to do this for a long time. I'm sure that this is not as good as a real Consult - but given the cost - it's an excellent tool!

The build quality of the interface is 1st class - I'm giving this one a five star rating!

Heath
Modified by Q451990 at 12:04 AM 3/9/2007

[RyanH]

Jamie, I think I purchased one of these from you last year through info I found on another board. The pics you posted look exactly like what I have, so I assume you're the same Jamie.

If its the same thing, it works great. When I go home to San Diego to visit, my brother likes to cruise with me and watch the displays and stuff, he's going to UTI in Rancho Cucamonga, so he likes to play with it. He does have this annoying habit of rolling the window down, and yelling "Smoke 'em!" as he closes my laptop anytime we pull up next to some obvious poser ricer. Damn Fast and the Furious...

Okay, back on topic, it works great. I mostly use Nissan Data Scan, but here's a list of other pieces of software I've used with it:TECUECUTalk 1.2conZultDDL ReaderCalumSult

Edit: I thought I'd also share that I've used it on Windows XP and Windows Vista. I see no reason that it shouldn't work under Windows 2000 as well.

[pdqwrx]

Jamie- Thanks for the quick reply...I have ordered a USB to Serial adapter but it is bulky and sticks out of the USB port rather precariously. Yours would simply be a plug in USB cable. Besides, I have several friends that will buy mine, allowing me to buy yours.....

ThanksScott

[pdqwrx]

So please put me down for one and who do I paypal? Does the price include shipping?

Scott

[maxnix]

If this plugs into a laptop on the USB (2.0?) end, then I want one also.

Heath, will the software emulate full scope readouts?

Brian

[slipnfall]

RyanH: Thanks for the kind words. I'm happy to hear that it is still being used! Actually you're the first person to report compatability with Windows Vista, so that's good to hear.

Yes, Windows 2000 works fine(this is what I use it with), along with Win98SE. Win98 has some slight issues you need to be aware of, but this is due to the nature of how Win98 assigns port numbers to devices. Nothing major.

The device I use has drivers for OSX, along with linux(though I have yet to see a linux-based CONSULT tool).

[slipnfall]

maxnix: The device is USB 2.0 certified, but is backwards compatible with USB1.0 (good news for those older laptops). Plus the CONSULT interface by design doesn't necessitate USB2.0's speed/throughput.

PS - Thanks for the backing and testing Heath!

[maxnix]

maxnix: The device is USB 2.0 certified, but is backwards compatible with USB1.0 (good news for those older laptops). Plus the CONSULT interface by design doesn't necessitate USB2.0's speed/throughput.

Yeah, I didn't think the ECU could spit out the data in that volume.

Great work.

[slipnfall]

pdqwrx: After re-reading your posts, I realized you may have some misconceptions about the abilities of this board: please re-read my revised response Re: Nistune.

[RyanH]

RyanH: Thanks for the kind words. I'm happy to hear that it is still being used! Actually you're the first person to report compatability with Windows Vista, so that's good to hear.

Yes, Windows 2000 works fine(this is what I use it with), along with Win98SE. Win98 has some slight issues you need to be aware of, but this is due to the nature of how Win98 assigns port numbers to devices. Nothing major.

The device I use has drivers for OSX, along with linux(though I have yet to see a linux-based CONSULT tool).

Any time! This is a great tool, and can be a bit of fun as well.

[pdqwrx]

Jamie- When I bought the NISTune software and daughter board for my S13 I was told (By Peter of NISTune) that I only needed a "Standard Consult Cable". Does your cable fall into that standard. He said that any cable that I could use as a consult would work. His cable does have a large box in the middle of it with lots of stuff inside. Please let me know your thoughts as I would like to be able to use yours.Here is what I have...[IMG][/IMG]http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/consult ... hanksScott

[rubdog]

Hi, Jaime I would like to purchase one to you take pay pal?

http://www.cardomain.com/id/rubdog

[slipnfall]

pdqwrx This is exactly what you need then. Nistune is developing some hardware, which is what I thought you had.

I believe PayPal payments are being sent to Wes, but I'll let him respond to that one.

[heywier427]

count me in. who is the $ being sent to.

could somebody post the websites to all the programs mentioned above.

thanks this is great.

[Raxephon]

The NISTune unit is a Serial and my lap top dose not have a serial port so the USB would be nice if it will work.

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[Skibane]

IIRC, Nissan changed the Data Link Connector style and pin-out about halfway through the Y33 series. According to the FSM, my 2000 model has a connector that has 7 populated pins:

Pin 1 (Battery + connection)Pin 4 (CSR connection on ECM)Pin 5 (CST connection on ECM)Pin 9 (Ignition switch ON/START connection)Pin 10 (GST connection on ECM)Pin 12 (ECM ground connection)Pin 13 (Chassis ground connection)

So, I would have to replace the existing connector on this CONSULT interface with a new connector, correct?

[Q451990]

Apparently there have been some issues using the serial to USB adaptor. One particular chipset in the serial to USB adaptor will work, so you have to make sure it's the right one. One of the sites recommends an adaptor that works (I think it's the Conzult site) but I would go with this one if you don't already have the other design. It's one less link in the chain to break. Also, I put together one of the serial adaptors and couldn't get it to work on the Q. Probably operator error... but that's my experience.

Brian, I'm not sure what you mean by "full scope" mode... please let me know and I'll try to answer.

Heath

[elwesso]

I will be taking payments, to the email address listed in my profile.... Once you pay I will confirm it in this thread.

Jamie said he will be building these things to order, so it may take some time.

I will see if I can download a full version of Nissan Datascan for us to use.

[maxnix]

Brian, I'm not sure what you mean by "full scope" mode... please let me know and I'll try to answer.

Heath

Are you able to view wave forms for injector operation? ECU maps in 3D graphs?

Should be a software function.

[mxr662]

Paid by paypal. Thanks

Andy

[elwesso]

Paid by paypal. Thanks

Andy

got it andy, thanks!

9 more available!

[pdqwrx]

Jamie- When you say that NISTune is developing some hardware, are you talking about the daughter boards that are programmable and make the ECU "Addressable" through the consult port? If so, that is what I have. Pete was kind enough to send me a "Beta" sample to play with.

And Q451990 is correct, there have been issues using the Serial to USB adapters that I would like to avoid.

In an earlier post you said that this cable is a read only device- Is that because of the cable or because the stock ecu is a read only device as well?

[elwesso]

In order to reprogram the ECU you have to take the chip out, erase its memory (using a UV light) and then reprogram it. You cannot "reflash" it in the stock ECU. Why they sell ROMulators and programmers.. You use the romulator to emulate the ECU so you can tune as you go, once you do that you burn it onto a chip and put it in the computer.

[pdqwrx]

Wes- This is a new "Technology" that lets me tune in real time as I am driving the car. It will do everything my buddies AEM computer will do but for far less money.Here is a link to some more information

http://www.plmsdevelopments.com/files/sugfcv.pdfThis currently works with the SR20DET but other applications will be in the works including our V8.

This should be pretty darn cool.

Scott

[maxnix]

Wes- This is a new "Technology" that lets me tune in real time as I am driving the car.

This should be pretty darn cool.

Scott

As long as you don't have a typo!