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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (positronone) | 12:25 PM 12/15/2006 |
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Man... this is the best Subframe Collar Install write up.
I'm going to do this soon.
Thanks!!
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bribot
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01' jetta 1.8T, 83' GTI, 90' s13 hatch
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nice write-up
| Quote, originally posted by forksquared » | | im sitting there busting fat drifts around the mustangs |
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87nissanKC
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9-16-2005
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (positronone) | 2:17 AM 12/18/2006 |
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Good Job man!! I got bored one day and installed my SPL subframe collars, SPL Tension Control Rods, and Nismo S13 Springs and struts...Took about 5 or 6 hours by myself. I know a little long, but i was having fun and did not want it to end. Im going to have some more "Fun" after Christmas also...New sway bars will be in the mail soon, and strut bars also. After that all i will need is the Helical LSD and the suspension will be done....enough....for now. 
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positron_
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (87nissanKC) | 6:18 AM 12/18/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 87nissanKC » | | Good Job man!! I got bored one day and installed my SPL subframe collars, SPL Tension Control Rods, and Nismo S13 Springs and struts...Took about 5 or 6 hours by myself. I know a little long, but i was having fun and did not want it to end. Im going to have some more "Fun" after Christmas also...New sway bars will be in the mail soon, and strut bars also. After that all i will need is the Helical LSD and the suspension will be done....enough....for now. |
What kind of sway and strut bars are you getting?
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87nissanKC
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (positronone) | 12:38 AM 12/19/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by positronone » | | What kind of sway and strut bars are you getting? |
I will be getting Suspension Techniques sway bars, and Greddy strut bars. Just have to be sure the strut bars fit in the engine bay.
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Thoughtful_One
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1992 Nissan 240SX (base model)
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6-20-2005
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (positronone) | 10:42 PM 12/26/2006 |
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I thought the dial for adjusting the stiffness for the shocks is supposed to face in towards the car. That is the way my mechanic installed it. Additionally, I read this in a few other posts.
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240DRFT
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whered u get the bearings for that ebay bar??and whats with the red bar in the first pic??
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| « Re: (240DRFT) | 10:39 PM 12/27/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 240DRFT » | | whered u get the bearings for that ebay bar?? and whats with the red bar in the first pic?? |
That red bar is a lower control arm bar and I got it to replace the ebay lower control arm bar near my differential. It's got spherical bearings and seems to have fewer flex points than the ebay bar I'm replacing.
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positron_
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (Thoughtful_One) | 10:51 PM 12/27/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Thoughtful_One » | | I thought the dial for adjusting the stiffness for the shocks is supposed to face in towards the car. That is the way my mechanic installed it. Additionally, I read this in a few other posts. |
Dude, I don't know what kind of shocks you have but I'm looking at the instructions for my KYB AGX's right now and it says and I quote "Upon installation, the dial should be facing outward for easy accessibility. There is no way to make "on the fly" adjustments like KYB claims if the shocks dial is facing inward unless you got some really open face wheels on the car and even then you can't tell what number they are set on.
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Thoughtful_One
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (positronone) | 12:42 PM 12/28/2006 |
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I have AGX as well ... Hmmm, very true. I wasn't sure about this. My mechanic installed them. I'll be installing solid Al bushings soon which means that I can switch the shocks around.
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94_240sx
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (positronone) | 1:28 PM 12/28/2006 |
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Does anyone know name of this bar and where I can get it? Worth ir or not? Thanks!
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positron_
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (94_240sx) | 2:09 PM 12/28/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 94_240sx » | | Does anyone know name of this bar and where I can get it? Worth ir or not? Thanks!
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That was some el-cheapo lower control arm bar that I got off ebay for about $19. It had too many flex-points so I got a sturdier bar with spherical bearings on the end to replace it with.
Modified by positronone at 7:52 AM 1/6/2007
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Thoughtful_One
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1992 Nissan 240SX (base model)
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (positronone) | 2:10 PM 12/28/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by positronone » | | Dude, I don't know what kind of shocks you have but I'm looking at the instructions for my KYB AGX's right now and it says and I quote "Upon installation, the dial should be facing outward for easy accessibility. There is no way to make "on the fly" adjustments like KYB claims if the shocks dial is facing inward unless you got some really open face wheels on the car and even then you can't tell what number they are set on. |
I just called KYB about this and the tech. representative said "the dial should never face towards the tire," which only makes sense because adjusting the settings would be incredibly difficult unless you have rims which will allow you to adjust them. The dials have to face inwards, or towards the differential.
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positron_
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (Thoughtful_One) | 2:15 PM 12/28/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Thoughtful_One » | I just called KYB about this and the tech. representative said "the dial should never face towards the tire," which only makes sense because adjusting the settings would be incredibly difficult unless you have rims which will allow you to adjust them. The dials have to face inwards, or towards the differential. |
KYB is starting to confuse me...the instructions say outward and a KYB tech says inward. I have aftermarket rims so adjustment with them outward is simple and on the fly. I guess if you had the stock wheels or some full face rims then you'd have to take the tires off so it wouldn't matter how you had them positioned. But I tell you again, I'm looking at the instructions and they say "OUTWARD FOR EASY ACCESSIBILITY".
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Thoughtful_One
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1992 Nissan 240SX (base model)
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (positronone) | 7:08 PM 12/28/2006 |
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I'm not doubting you, but think if you had the stock steel wheels with hub caps. Adjusting them would be very difficult. They can be adjusted easily when they are pointing inwards.
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youngmanvr4
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9-21-2005
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (Thoughtful_One) | 10:01 PM 12/28/2006 |
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Good write up, easy install.
 Current:
95 240SX SE - VLSD, S. Tech springs, HID's. Now installing SR.
95 3000GT base - Stock
94 3000GT VR4 - K&N Filter, Test pipe, Denso fuel pump, HKS EVC IV.
92 Ninja EX500 - Full Muzzy exhaustSold:
90 240SX - SOHC to DOHC, Auto to 5spd, 11:1 compression, bunch other mods.
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positron_
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (Thoughtful_One) | 1:03 PM 1/2/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Thoughtful_One » | | I'm not doubting you, but think if you had the stock steel wheels with hub caps. Adjusting them would be very difficult. They can be adjusted easily when they are pointing inwards. |
True, I wonder if it really affects performance at all if you point them inside or out. Maybe it's just users perogative. 
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DuckyD
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2-16-2006
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (positronone) | 5:46 AM 1/13/2007 |
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How do the collars feel when you're driving on the street? Any issues with too much noise or bumps?
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positron_
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (DuckyD) | 3:42 AM 1/21/2007 |
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Everythings fine until you hit some bumps, then you here it in the rear. There's some noise but it's worth the extra stiffness that you get back.
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positron_
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (positronone) | 1:35 PM 2/18/2007 |
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Hey, I'm starting to wonder how it would feel with the solid bushings.
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del82
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (positron_) | 8:44 AM 1/12/2009 |
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Are there any advantages to these collars over say, a urethane bushing set? Besides price, as I suspect the collars are cheaper.
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spartanmisfit
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1992 nissan 240sx S13
East Lansing mi
9-13-2008
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| « Re: Pics Of My Subframe Collar Install (del82) | 11:04 PM 5/15/2009 |
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im confused, where do the larger pieces go?
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