Finally turbo'd my s13. pics.

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So, I finally got a turbo kit together and on my s13. This is somewhat temporary. I have a fully built KA with a GT32 going in the spring. But I wanted some boost. :D

Here's the specs:IAP ManifoldGarrett T3 Super 60Tial 38mm Wastegate2.75" Dumppipe to SR downpipe, 3" test pipe, 3" Megan racing exhaust2" hotpipe, 2.75" cold pipeJRC Innercooler 8"x3"x31"Turbo XS BOV400cc InjectorsSAFC IIAEM Widebandz32 MAFMagnacore 8.5mm WiresMSD SS blasterWalbro 255lph fuel pump

Other crap AutoMeter Carbon Fiber Boost/oil pressure/oil temp/water temp gaugesACT Xtreme Pressure plate with ACT street discB&M short ShifterWelded Diffand a bunch of suspension stuff.

I'm running the boost off the wastegate spring, so it's hitting about 6psi right now. Feels awesome, spools fast. Boost is going up to about 10psi next week.

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Looking good! What did the super 60 and mani run you?

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I'm getting both of them used from a friend. Both have less than 5k miles on them though. $600 for the manifold, turbo and downpipe.

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lrb_2000 wrote:I'm getting both of them used from a friend. Both have less than 5k miles on them though. $600 for the manifold, turbo and downpipe.
damnit whyd i buy that stupid lcd flatscreen and never make payments on it til the last month of free interest lol oh well

Car pulls good, especially for a "thrown' together turbo kit, but once the boost is raised a lil more, she'l be smoking(hopefully not litterally).

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awesome deal!

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Nice.

How long did it take you (getting parts until getting it running)?

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Neejay wrote:Nice.

How long did it take you (getting parts until getting it running)?
Well, probalby about a year. But this wasn't my orginal plan. I started collecting all my turbo kit parts, except the turbo basically. I had a revhard manifold. Then I decided I wanted to make some big power, so I started building a spare engine. I'm looking for about 500whp on my other engine. It's getting assembled slowly.

But anyways. A friend had this turbo, and manfold and such, so we figured why not install it. Then we decided i'd just buy the parts and use it for the winter until the other engine is done... I wanted to get a feeling for boost and tuning. I love it so far.

The install didn't take long at all. It just took awhile to get everything else right, as far as vacuum leaks, wiring and that stuff. Luckly everything fit perfect...

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Lookin good man...I see the colored leaves on the ground, reminds me of New England..*sniffs*..I hate the desert.

You have to be one of the only guys I know who wants a turbo 240 for a "winter" car...lol. Especially up where you are.

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Yeah a turbo 240 during winter is pretty fun.

Car looks good LRB.....it's time for me to come down to lewiston and see what she's got.

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thats cool looks like you got the same idea for the striped inside. Except for mine I sanded everything down primed it, and used the though truck lning spray back there.

Then I went to home depot and got this sound dampning blanket which weighs a whole 5 pounds and helps out tremendously. I also think the truck lning spray did a trick too cause that stuff is though. But I like your clean look a lot especialy on a white car .

You might wanna becarefull might blend in with the snow hehe.

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Yeah i'm one of the crazy winter guys too lol, it's gonna be hitting -20 celcius easily here in Ontario...nooo chances to boost unless it's clear and you're having a bit of fun... The goal basically is to not get smashed by someone else, or get stuck..

Anyhoo, i'd be interested to hear a) how you like the AEM wideband (Uego I guess?) and b) what kind of A/F numbers you're running under boost.

Cheers.

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WDRacing wrote:Lookin good man...I see the colored leaves on the ground, reminds me of New England..*sniffs*..I hate the desert.

You have to be one of the only guys I know who wants a turbo 240 for a "winter" car...lol. Especially up where you are.

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Haha... Well, I definitely wouldn't have wanted to turbo it if it were my only car. But about a month ago I picked up a s14, so I drive that around. It's completely stock, and I love it. My s13 has coilovers, a welded diff, and loud *** exhaust, so that's annoying as hell for a daily driver. So it's nice to get into a car with ground clearance, and isn't loud. But still, two, small RWD cars in the winter isn't going to best idea. But i've had 240's for the past 3 winters and it hasn't been a problem.
S13FX wrote:thats cool looks like you got the same idea for the striped inside. Except for mine I sanded everything down primed it, and used the though truck lning spray back there.
Yeah, I figured white would just make a lot cleaner look.. I had to put that carpet back in there because it's blinding how white it is..
wild_maxx wrote:Yeah a turbo 240 during winter is pretty fun.

Car looks good LRB.....it's time for me to come down to lewiston and see what she's got.
Yes you do. Next week you should head down after work.. or hell, i could even come up there, but its usually about 10-15* warmer down here.. haha.
darkforcejackal wrote:Anyhoo, i'd be interested to hear a) how you like the AEM wideband (Uego I guess?) and b) what kind of A/F numbers you're running under boost.

Cheers.
My only complaint with the wideband is that the reading only goes from 10:1 AFR to 18:1 AFR.. which is fine, because you shouldn't be below or above that really.. but when decelerating, it goes super lean, past 18:1. It that normal? At 5psi, the AFR are fine, usually in the 10.8-12 range. I still haven't really gotten on it too hard yet, there's a few things I want to do first. The car is WAY low right now.. the toe of my shoe doesn't even fit under the front bumper, so it needs raised. Also the oil pan leaks a little, and the wiring needs finished up. Also the idle is at like 700rpms, and it's not to happy that low.

anyways, thanks for all the compliments. I can't wait until january so I can put it on the dyno and see what kind of numbers this super 60 does. I'm hoping I can hit about 250whp with it somewhere around 12psi.

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What wiring needs to be finsihed??My oil pan is leaking too 700-800 is normal idleshould be at 11.5 under boost to be safe Got something to control your timing??

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Well.. wiring didn't need to be finished, just cleaned up.. the maf wiring, and my fan relays..

I just got done working on it.. resealed the oil pan with high temp silicone. I hope it stops leaking now, it seemed a lot better.. also I raised the front and rear up about 1" so I have a little more ground clearance... I would rather the Idle be at about 850-900.. personal preference I guess... I figure at 10-12psi I'll just retard my timing to about 16-17*BTDC and my plugs are gapped at .037... I'll see how that works out...

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hopefully those new 370cc injectors come in soon

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I know.. that 5psi feels good, but 12psi will feel much better haha.

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I hate to be a wet blanket but BOV on the hot pipe = not good.

Also, do yourself a favor and strap down that battery real good. In an accident a loose trunk mounted battery will kill you.

My bus partner was in a small accident with our cargo van and a 5gal box of Coke syrup nearly folded the steel bulk head in half.

Other than that, nice car.

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Edub1 wrote:I hate to be a wet blanket but BOV on the hot pipe = not good.
Alittle more info on that? Thanks

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why would the bov on the hot pipe be bad? I'd say it's better. I'm letting non cooled air out, i'm getting no compressor surge. I think i'll leave it. Hell, isn't the bov on the hot pipe from the factory on an SR?

And yes, the battery is strapped in there. Those were pics for a month ago.

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bov on the hot pipe is fine..................as for your gap, i would lower it to .030.........u'll thank me later. lol.

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yeah most of the people I know running turbo's.. have their BOV on the hotpipe and theyve been working flawlessly.

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I think i'll be fine. So, lower my gap to .030 eh? I'll do that...

Now, I want to run 12psi on this turbo. Will the 370's do fine? I have a top feed fuel rail with 450cc DSM injectors I could use.. but I don't know what resistor box and where I put it... so help with that would be nice.

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I dont think the 370's will make it. The 450's should do fine though. You can get the resistor box from a Honda or Mitsubishi too...

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IWannaS15 wrote:I dont think the 370's will make it. The 450's should do fine though. You can get the resistor box from a Honda or Mitsubishi too...
If you get the box from a honda or mitsu, do you only need one large box? I was under the impression that you need 4 seperate resistor boxes.

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Most agree that BOV should be on the cold pipe. Moving air has mass and the pressure is released at the end of it's journey. Otherwise the flow has to back up and build back pressure to escape.

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BOV on cold pipe = good throttle response, bad compressor surge

BOV on hot pipe = not as good throttle response, but no compressor surge

looks good

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Neejay wrote:If you get the box from a honda or mitsu, do you only need one large box? I was under the impression that you need 4 seperate resistor boxes.
I think the box contains the four resistors and has the wiring leads coming out.

Each of the two black wires contain the four individual leads. One set goes to the injectors, the other set to the ECU (or driver?). BTW those are two separate boxes in the pic...


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well ****.. we got the 400cc injectors to work... we put the bad one in a spare fuel rail, along with 3 others.. filled the rail with carb cleaner and pushed about 20psi of pressure though it with the air compressor.. then used a 9v battery, and touched the ends to the injector, and it started spraying! So we installed it, and it works now.. I guess it was seized up or something? anyways, we installed the boost controller and up'd the boost to about 10psi.. it pulls insanely hard, but it's been raining out for the past few days.. anytime I mash on it, it loses traction.. hopefully it clears up. either way, i'm going to be posting tons of videos.

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cool setup man. ur put togather kit is way better then mine lol.

yeaup other guys i know where talking about the lean issue when in Dec with uego, someone said becuase in theory your ecu will stop sending glooobs of fuel to the motor when the trottle is lifted becuase the Air is not there. makes sense to me

also my bov is on hotside, no issues.

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hey cool deal on those injectors LRB.

The wideband should go pretty lean on decel. The ecu is basically cutting off the fuel when you let your foot off the gas. Don't worry about it.


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