VH45DE test fit in 240sx Part II

Post by **Sopdadope** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

With the manifolds on, there's absolutely no way this motor will fit in a 240sx without thousands of dollars worth of modifications.

The exhaust manifolds won't clear the frame rails more or less the steering linkage.

Fully dressed, this is a very heavy motor too. With a/c, alt, manifolds on, weight came out to 553 pounds.

As for the bellhousing, forget it...It's almost impossible to find a shop willing (and capable) to craft a one-off trans adapter to fit a manual tranny.

Last problem is tranny selection. Thy Z32 flywheel actually bolts up to the VH but again, bellhousing won't work.

It's a cool idea for a swap, but my main priority is bang-for-the-buck. This is a far too time-consuming process with an engine that doesn't offer any real advantage in terms of power output. An SR or CA with a few bolt-ons could match the VH45DE on straights.

So...I've focused on three other engines, all local junkers that actually run.

1. 3.2L Ford Taurus SHO engine (beautiful plenum, incredible top-end for a n/a 3L 6-cylinder).2. 4.6L Cadillac Northstar V8 (massive torque, incredibly light, even lighter than an SR+ turbo's, accessories, decent selection of hop-up parts, good block rigidity)3. VG30ET (it's been done before, turbo, very light-weight)

Still picking brains.

Post by **Tino** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

wouldn't they be hearts...

*shutup tino!*

k

Post by **sixxdeuce** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

can you make the taurus and cadillac engines work, arent they front wheel drive? A mustang guy told me the ford svt contour engine is built by yamaha, is this true? If so did yamaha build the taurus sho engine too?

Post by **lessthanjakejohn** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

Is the SHO a V6? EDIT: yes it isYamaha did build the SHO

I'd like to see that swap. Also, Northstar swap would be sick!

Post by **Mr_Nice_Guy** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

Quote »2. 4.6L Cadillac Northstar V8 (massive torque, incredibly light, even lighter than an SR+ turbo's, accessories, decent selection of hop-up parts, good block rigidity)[/quote] That seems to be my roommates biggest idea for an engine swap right now into a little ferio. He found some site where they carburate the engine and he has a blower sitting around at his house that fits right on to it!:ylsuper

Post by **mattback** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

thats why you need a VH41. its like 2 inches narrower..

Post by **Sopdadope** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

mattback wrote:thats why you need a VH41. its like 2 inches narrower..

Prohibitively expensive, cheapest 'running' motor I could find cost more than SR engine and tranny, and that's just the motor alone. Also there's the problem if adapting a manual tranny. This motor has no muscle, for the weight and the price, it's not even worth the trouble considering there are V6's that cost less and put out more power.

Right now, is a matter of which motor I have access to. Budget's a concern too. After some thinking, I've scratched the VG engine. New requirements are DOHC V engine.

Post by **mattback** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

dude

ive been screaming VE30DE for a long time.

custom bellhousing and clutch , baby!!!

just ditch the VTC and youre good to go.

Post by **Sopdadope** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

mattback wrote:dude

ive been screaming VE30DE for a long time.

custom bellhousing and clutch , baby!!!

just ditch the VTC and youre good to go.

You mean the VQ30DE from the max right? I wonder if you could use the bellhousing from a Pathfinder since it's pretty much the same engine in a RWD app?

Post by **mattback** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

no, the VE30DE.

Post by **Sopdadope** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

mattback wrote:no, the VE30DE.

What car is this motor from?

Post by **Sopdadope** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

BTW, wouldn't this motor look gorgeous in a 240sx?

Post by **nismokid** » Thu Mar 13, 2003 9:36 am

i think he means vg30de from the 90-96 n/a 300zx

Post by **Florida240sx** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 2:34 pm

The vg30deTT fit as well as the vh45de. Vh45de requires notching of frame rail for the alternator

Post by **nissan_superwrench** » Fri Jan 19, 2007 6:24 pm

92-94 max se,pre vq engine.

Post by **Goldeneagle** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 11:47 am

Forget about using the 4.6l V8 Northstar engine...you will have a lot of custom modifications to do to make it fit.

I have the L37 (4.6l, 32valve, V8) Northstar engine in the 99' Seville I drive while my 240 is being worked on. The engine is huge.

I'll take pictures if you want any.

Post by **SeanDean** » Mon Feb 05, 2007 4:42 pm

Anyone else notice this thread is almost 4years old???

The northstar is a ****ty option for a RWD car because the waterpump assembly is huge and is on the back side of the engine so it wont clear teh firewall if you want the engine to tuck nicely back in teh engine bay.

Its not a huge motor though, the Q45 engine is much larger physically.

SHO motors can be done RWD with a bellhousing from a V6 aerostar.

I have a VH41 in my S13 now

blah

Post by **WDRacing** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:27 am

That and the VH is an awsome platform...anyone who says otherwise is simply showing that don't anything about the VH itself.

Why not keep the auto tranny? Is the world stuck on drifting?

WD

Post by **Shift_Kouki** » Sun May 06, 2007 6:47 pm

^ Im stuck on road racing.

I thought autos were only for towing, and drag racing?

Post by **johngriff** » Mon May 07, 2007 3:04 pm

You must be doing something wrong, but since you cant link to the forum using the "Z" word, i cant link you, go there, do a search, someone already has the VH installed.

LOL

Post by **bball212000** » Fri Jun 01, 2007 5:36 pm

just so you know there is a sho v6 and a sho v8

VH45DE test fit in 240sx Part II

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