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Tx-Sx-FS
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S13 KA-T
Crooked I Texas
3-16-2004
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| « Re: (side waz) | 1:07 PM 12/31/2005 |
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hey sidewaz...i got the intercooler kit installed, fit like a glove  i had to cut the hotpipe and coldpipe side so it would fit but other than that the throttle body angle was right on. ill have pics soon hopefully and get this thing running..ill test you SAFC settings once i get my harness installed...later.
S13 KA24DET -- T28 @ 7psi daily, SSAutoChrome Manifold, XS Power elbow,
Megan TestPipe/Cat Back, SAFC, TopSpeed SS, VLSD,
Walbro 255lph, Greddy RS, FMIC, 370cc
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side waz
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259 posts
1990 R32 Nissan Skyline GTS-T Type M, RB20det. Previous car 1991 240sx SE fastback, KA-T.
Toronto Ontario Canada
11-6-2003
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| « Re: (Tx-Sx-FS) | 7:55 PM 12/31/2005 |
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Great news I'm glad everything installed smoothly for you.  For sure post up those pic's as I really want to see them.
God I Love RHD Drifting! 
1990 Nissan R32 Skyline GTS-T Type M, RB20det
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matt black
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145 posts
89 Nissan 240sx ka24de
zephyrhills Florida
6-27-2004
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| « Re: (side waz) | 4:18 PM 1/7/2006 |
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my setupt25 on a bottem mount mani
370cc injectors
FMIC
Turbo XS bov
SAFC I
LC-1 Wideband o2 w/Dynotune Gauge
Autometer Boost gauge
3inch turbo elbow
stock SR downpipe
gutted cat
2.5 exhaust all the way back to a high flow elcheapo muffler . came with the car
boost : 7 psi
my safc settings
-27 across the whole low map
-15 across the whole high map
Throttle Point: Low - 20% / High - 35% during boost my afr reading are in the low 12's 
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1995240sxSE
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847 posts
1991 jeep wrangelr and a 2004 ford taurus
AL TAQQADUM NC
1-11-2006
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| « Re: (matt black) | 6:47 PM 3/9/2006 |
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does anyone have setups like or similiar to this: t304e .70 trim, 480 cc's, walbro 255lph, Tial 90mm wg, hks bov 2.5 inch intercooler piping and a big fmic, msd6btm, ssac manifold and a q45 90mm MAF! safc II aswell Anyone suggest a setup(even a bench tune) so that I dont blow anything up on the way to the dynoshop, you know I dont wanna be safe than sorry
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emperor_lunchbox
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91 240sx, 96 eclipse spyder, and 96 camaro z28 (For Sale)
orlando
2-22-2004
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**** NOOB QUESTION ALERT ****Is an SAFCII and a wideband an alternative to a tuned ECU like enthalpy? I was planning on getting an enthalpy, but because I plan on many stages it will get very expensive very quickly.
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1995240sxSE
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847 posts
1991 jeep wrangelr and a 2004 ford taurus
AL TAQQADUM NC
1-11-2006
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| « Re: (1995240sxSE) | 9:04 AM 5/18/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 1995240sxSE » | | does anyone have setups like or similiar to this: t304e .70 trim, 480 cc's, walbro 255lph, Tial 90mm wg, hks bov 2.5 inch intercooler piping and a big fmic, msd6btm, ssac manifold and a q45 90mm MAF! safc II aswell Anyone suggest a setup(even a bench tune) so that I dont blow anything up on the way to the dynoshop, you know I dont wanna be safe than sorry |
just trying to know so I dont blow my $h!t again, I wanna know that I can drive it for a week or so and see a little boost until payday so I can go to the dyno shop! FIZ can you please give me some numbers, All I need to know is the % for 1000 rpms and up, i am getting good boost by 3000 rpms!
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nb07bcar
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226 posts
Sac ca
7-7-2005
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| « Re: (1995240sxSE) | 9:27 AM 5/18/2006 |
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I have 460cc injectores. Try low at -40 accross the board and high turn to -27 across the board, but don't get into boost. If it smells like your running rich just turn it down some more. I have to run -50 at idle and then it goes up from there , but my hi throttle starts at -10 and goes all the way to +50
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crzycav86
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3839 posts
93 240sx KAT
Houston TX
8-5-2003
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| « Re: (1995240sxSE) | 9:53 AM 5/18/2006 |
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just don't drive it until you have money for the dyno. you should know that if you "don't wanna blow your **** again".
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RPS1392
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2X 1992 S13 Fastbacks
Potsdam NY
3-28-2006
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| « Re: Your Turbo System & SAFC Settings (side waz) | 3:08 PM 5/25/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by side waz » | | Your both very welcome. I don't know how much it helped out but, anything is better then nothing. Tx-Sx-FS - FOR SURE let me know about that fmic kit, take pic's of the install, pic's of any prob's, how you solved them and so on. It's a great deal on that kit and I may be interested in it myself. Just want to know about it all first. Hopefully other people will be posting up there settings and system so everyone will have lots of information to assist in there own set up. |
Just wanted to say you have a BEAUTIFUL car dude. That blue is amazing. And I hate blue cars honestly, but yours is just, wow. crazy.
In response to the AFC settings, I need to play with mine a bit more, its really fun to see the drastic changes in power you make with the AFC, + or - of course. I got mine from idling like turds (black smoke everywhere) to idling like a top. My dec air settings never seemed to affect idle at all. My MAF output voltage is the main one I needed to use. I'm at 1 in 1 out with a N60 maxima MAF. I'm running a very similar setup
XO2 Manifold
T25
370cc
N60 MAF
3 inch downpipe
3 inch test pipe
Apexi N1 dual exhaust
Apexi BOV
FMIC
SAFC 2
Manual boost controller My car kept popping couplers at 10psi so I bought T bolt clamps and they're hopefully on their way. Once I get those installed I can fine tune the boost controller(getting boost creep a lot) as well as the SAFC settings.
Modified by RPS1392 at 3:21 PM 5/25/2006
Modified by RPS1392 at 3:24 PM 5/25/2006
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kas14slider
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75 posts
1996 Nissan s14
State College PA
9-20-2006
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Could anyone help me with these settings, I don't have any money to afford a tune right now. Car is a 96 s14 with stock maf Also what should be the correct sensor type, I have it as hot wire and set at 2 in 2 out but I think this is wrong My setup is:
-s14 t28 at stock boost
-Ebay Godspeed FMIC
-Taurus e-fan
-Megan 2.5" catback
-ebay manifold and downpipe
-Walbro 255 pump
-SAFC II
-SR 370cc's
-stock s14 MAF
-retarded timing
96 zenki s14
Tein Basic Suspension
Tein Tie rods/ends
JDM s13 vlsd
Autopower 4pt roll bar
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1995240sxSE
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847 posts
1991 jeep wrangelr and a 2004 ford taurus
AL TAQQADUM NC
1-11-2006
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| « Re: (kas14slider) | 12:00 PM 6/6/2007 |
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why is your timing retarted? A birth defect? Sorry I just woke up. How much boost are you running? Not too sure you need to adjust timing unless u are running a bunch of boost. your right on safc hotwire 2in 2out for stock maf. also 4 cyl with arrow from bottom left pointing to top right! Just put all your high maps at 0% and your low at -23%. that should keep ya very rich and safe! Dont boost too much till ya get a wideband or a dyno tune!
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ace0073
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130 posts
1969 datsun 510
huntington beach ca
11-9-2006
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| « Re: (1995240sxSE) | 9:51 AM 6/21/2007 |
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Anyone have settings to use with a JWT ecu? I have 740 injectors with cobra maf and JWT ecu. Car runs very rich and would like to fine tune it. AFC is already installed (well will b today) but just turned off because I dont know how to set it. 
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red240ne
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1907 posts
mmm...donuts
tulsa ok
8-24-2002
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| « Re: (1995240sxSE) | 10:27 PM 6/25/2007 |
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I run 2 in 5 out for the MAF setting, but I have an s13. But basically for the MAF setting you can just play with it until your idle smooths out.
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red240ne
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1907 posts
mmm...donuts
tulsa ok
8-24-2002
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| « Re: (deathBooster) | 10:29 PM 6/25/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by deathBooster » | | NEed help with my settings... I am not really familiar with this but how do i check if the setting are right or wrong??? My current setup are Greddy FMIC, T28,255lph pump, 555cc injectors, and a AEM wideband + hks blowoff--. close to what WHEELWONDER have..
I forgot what my previous settings where but this is my current
SAFC settings are:
HI map +22% all points
LO map +23% all points
DEC AIR : was Thr ****%, Ne1 10%, Ne2 10%
now 1.1 ne1 1.4 ne2 2.0
TH point: 44%, 45%
and my air/fuel readings are really unstable at idle... what is wrong with this bomb for being dumb... 
Modified by deathBooster at 2:02 PM 10/27/2005
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I know this is REALLY old, but in this situation, your MAF wire had to be wired backwards.
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frosti108
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426 posts
88 s12 200sx 89 s13 240sx 96 d21 hardbody
exton, kop, oc pa and nj
11-7-2005
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Modified by frosti108 at 5:52 PM 5/27/2008
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Tx-Sx-FS
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982 posts
S13 KA-T
Crooked I Texas
3-16-2004
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| « Re: (frosti108) | 1:09 AM 8/17/2007 |
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bring this back to life....im just getting to that part in my setup, Sidewayz...my intercooler piping pics are on the link in my signature...but ill be wiring my SAFC asap and need some pretty accurate and safe settings for setup in signature too...I was goin by Sidewayz setup cuz exactly the same except he lives in colder wheather than my Texas heat...so should there be any changes in any of ther stated numbers??? i have all 3 settings Sidewayz posted but first seemed to be set for normal temps instead of cooler air but let me know...cmon guys, know theres alot of KAT out there with this setup....need lil help on the wiring--the white and yellow for air pressure, white goes to ecu pin #16, but this pic shows yellow comin from another white wire but not sure what ecu pin #...any help?? Thanks everyone and lets keep this alive.
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Biggamehit
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1020 posts
89 KA24DE-T
Misawa, Japan
1-30-2005
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| « Re: SAFC Settings, Question, Comments and Concerns Thread (side waz) | 8:36 PM 8/21/2007 |
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Current SetupHolset H1C turbo ( somewhat close to GT30R)
3in V-band custom down pipe/exhuast
JGStools log manifold stage 1
Blitz bov ( Atmospheric )
Sr 370cc injectors
safc1
AEM Wideband Uego
greddy Full auto timer
ssac fmic
summit racing SS oil line -10AN drain/-4AN feed
NGK copper plugs (gapped to .033)
N60 MAF
255 pump
Timing set to 15deg
 My current safc self tune
( note: These are my settings, feel free to try but at your own risk. Many factors make every car different)
(subject to change)
Fuel
...1k 2k 3k 4k 5k 6k 7k Hi 20 20 20 20 21 25 27
Lo 4 6 10 10 11 13 16
Throttle
Lo 22 % Hi 33%
Deceleration Air
Throttle=1.4%
Ne1= 2.3%
Ne2= 3.3% Sensor type Hotwire ( arrow pointing up) 3 In 5 Out
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nlzmo400r
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4908 posts
cars
louisiana
2-12-2003
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| « Re: SAFC Settings, Question, Comments and Concerns Thread (Biggamehit) | 12:19 PM 10/16/2007 |
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So yes, i have searched but am not seeing what im looking for. Any help is greatly appreciated guys, i know there are plenty of Gurus in these forums and are very kind to us n00bs who are only trying to learn...thanks in advanced! My Set Up:
KA24DE-T
T25
3inch DP/no exhaust yet
FMIC
SR intake/Stock S13 MAF
370cc SR injectors
SAFC2
AEM Wideband(getting bung welded today for better results)
1st Gen/EVO BOV w/ recirculation Tube(rigged, not working well) -I have shortly tuned with a wideband but we had the sensor rigged in the back of the downpipe, i am now going to get a bung welded onto my downpipe for correct results.
-I am also looking to replace the stock SR intake b/c it's that rubber **** and it's hard to clamp hose clamps on rubber, so im going to pick up an alluminum one.
Questions:
1. On the SAFC2, where it says(under the THR settiings i believe):
Neo1: 800rpm
Neo2: 1000rpm...etc. How can i adjust these, it only lets me highlight them and not change them in anyway?
2. When Monitoring AFL, what exactly does it stand for and mean;Airflow? Is there any "norm" at idle that it should be?
3. Dec. Air, does it only account your settings if you're running open BOV(Un-recirculated) b/c it doesn't seem to be helping my hold idle when clutched in or in neutral. I am forced to heel toe until slowly 0% throttle then i can let off the gas, and even then the idle is at 450rpm..then only once i completely stop will the rpm rise back to 750ish...
4. For my MAF "IN" and "OUT" should it be 1 and 1, or 5 and 5?
5. Also, I'm not sure under which settings it's under but where it asks you:
Low THR xx% and HI THR xxx%, for mine i have it at Low 10% HIgh 50%, should this be at anything else, also does this mean that for the settings i have changed for my low THR they only apply when i am in between 10%-49% throttle and the same applies for the high throttle?
6. Air bung on the valve cover, is it necessary to have a hose going from this to the intake right before the Filter? I have one of those small filters on it and plugged the spot on the intake since it's after the MAF...? I think that's all i can think of for now, again guys, any help is greatly appreciated; just trying to learn from people in the know. Thanks. -Chris
Rob
o2 altima (qr25de) auto-SOLD
93 24o hatch (ka24de) 5sd
91 DSM GST (4g63T) 5spd- SOLD
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Tx-Sx-FS
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982 posts
S13 KA-T
Crooked I Texas
3-16-2004
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| « Re: SAFC Settings, Question, Comments and Concerns Thread (nlzmo400r) | 6:03 PM 11/16/2007 |
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need lil help SIDEWAYZ...what setting should i change if im running ur setup but my boost spikes to 12psi...what should i use for the HI THROTTLE settings??
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scrapey
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180sx
madison wi
5-18-2008
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| « Re: SAFC Settings, Question, Comments and Concerns Thread (side waz) | 7:47 PM 5/22/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by side waz » | | **** May Be Worthy Of Being STICKY'd **** Hey everyone whats up. Well as I saw another thread asking for SAFC help (as did I) and I thought it might be a good idea to make a thread where it would be WAY easier to search out answers, see people's systems and settings. These units can be complicated at first and even appear a little ominous to the first timer so this should help. So for those who are already using either the SAFC (LCD screen with button's) or the SAFC II (LCD screen with knob) post up your COMPLETE settings including, Throttle Point, NE Points, High/Low Throttle and Fuel % Correction for each NE Point. Also include what turbo system your running like kind of turbo, injector's, ect, ect. Don't forget to mention if you've tunned on the dyno, via a Wideband or not at all. True no two cars will be running the exact same settings despite maybe having the same turbo system but at least it will give new people something to research on and use to just drive there cars and get to the dyno or tune with a wideband. Anyway here's my SAFC settings (have NOT hit the dyno as yet) NE Points: 1000rpm, 2500rpm, 3000rpm, 3500rpm, 4000rpm, 4500rpm, 5000rpm and 6000rpm Throttle Point: Lo - 10% / High - 43% Low Throttle Fuel Correction: -25% across ALL NE Points High Throttle Fuel Correction: 1000rpm -17%, 2500rpm -17%, 3000 -16%, 3500rpm -15%, 4000rpm -15%, 4500rpm -15%, 5000rpm -15% and 6000rpm -15% My turbo system is, SSAutochrome Manifold, SR T25 Turbo, SR Turbo Extension, Megan Racing 3" Downpipe, SR 370cc Injector's, Megan Racing Fuel Pressure Regulator, 300zx Fuel Filter, SR SMIC, Walboro Fuel Pump, GReddy Type S BOV (atmospheric) and the SAFC (buttons) So that's me how about you??? Also PLEASE feel free to ask any questions, post any comments or concerns as this will probabley go a long to helping out a lot of people. Take care guys. Easy <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.nicoclub.com/forums/images/smilies/smoker.gif" BORDER="0">
Modified by side waz at 4:23 PM 10/24/2005
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whats ur in and out?
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WDRacing
Porn Crusader
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16864 posts
1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002
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| « Re: SAFC Settings, Question, Comments and Concerns Thread (scrapey) | 5:55 AM 5/23/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by scrapey » | whats ur in and out? |
Don't bump old posts for a question that has been answered many times. Also, if you need to, make a new thread. The reason I say this is because many of thses guys aren't active on Nico anymore. WD
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