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Post Title: Learning a second language?
Posted by: mmm240 at 7:48 AM 7/3/2009

I'm looking for input from people that have. What method did you take? I'd like to learn Spanish, and working around them isn't enough for me to pick up on it. I'm thinking about trying Rosetta Stone.



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Posted by: DrifterXRPS13 at 7:50 AM 7/3/2009

My cousin used to work at one of those kiosks in the mall selling this ish and he said it was great...i actually wanna get this to learn japanese but it's sooooo expensive.



Post Title: Re: (DrifterXRPS13)
Posted by: mmm240 at 8:07 AM 7/3/2009

I just noticed the price. I gotta learn how to use torrents.



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Posted by: DrifterXRPS13 at 8:13 AM 7/3/2009

yea, it's ridiculously overpriced but i guess if you wanna learn a language quick and easy, you gotta pay for it...

speakig of torrents, i just starting using demonoid yesterday...cool stuff.



Post Title: Re: Learning a second language? (mmm240)
Posted by: APEXi240 at 8:30 AM 7/3/2009



I'm in the same boat as you. I cannot find any decent free online resources. I simply want to learn more verb usage (saying everything in the present tense makes me look stupid), as well as some vocabulary outside the restaurant environment.

It also doesn't help that the people I am learning Spanish from don't speak it properly.

Just so you know, you can take out Rosetta Stone from your library if they carry it. I'm on a waiting list for it right now.



Post Title: Re: Learning a second language? (mmm240)
Posted by: ScrapMetal at 8:33 AM 7/3/2009



English is my second language, and I learned by watching tons of American television. When I got to this country all I did was watch "Friends" and "Seinfeld". Try watching Telemundo and Univision or whatever else Spanish networks you get.



Post Title: Re: Learning a second language? (mmm240)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 8:41 AM 7/3/2009

I learned German by taking German courses at college, and then I lived in Germany for a year.



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Posted by: -]sTm[-HeavyHips at 8:48 AM 7/3/2009

Ive got a great way to learn it and you could even make some money too. Move out the calie. Let me hire you as my dishwasher and then you'll be speaking Spanish in no time flat.



Post Title: Re: (-]sTm[-HeavyHips)
Posted by: infinitgkid at 10:44 AM 7/3/2009

I'd only learn a second language in order to talk to the hot foreign ladies...

Other than that, I see no point...



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Posted by: AsanBBoy at 10:58 AM 7/3/2009



I took a Japanese course in high school. Obviously the easiest and cheapest route. Though that is probably not an option for you. Learn torrents and get Pimsler. Or buy it.



Post Title: Re: (infinitgkid)
Posted by: PapaSmurf2k3 at 11:23 AM 7/3/2009

Quote, originally posted by infinitgkid »
I'd only learn a second language in order to talk to the hot foreign ladies...

Other than that, I see no point...

$$$ and the fact it sets you apart from the other guys applying for the same job.



Post Title: Re: Learning a second language? (mmm240)
Posted by: fijianrocket at 11:41 AM 7/3/2009



I learnt from my mom an dad. I also took french in Highschool and English is my second language. Trust me it does look better on a resume plus world travel. Which i would have done Chinese so that i could have gotten in with some Chinese businesses. thats big right now.



Post Title: Re: Learning a second language? (fijianrocket)
Posted by: EvillE423 at 12:33 PM 7/3/2009

I took spanish in school and we used Rosetta Stone. While expensive, it does the job.



Post Title: Re: (DrifterXRPS13)
Posted by: RCA at 2:54 PM 7/3/2009

Quote, originally posted by DrifterXRPS13 »
yea, it's ridiculously overpriced but i guess if you wanna learn a language quick and easy, you gotta pay for it...

speakig of torrents, i just starting using demonoid yesterday...cool stuff.

You have no idea how powerful a tool like Deminoid is...

It took me about a month and a half to figure it out.
I was DLing movies but then I expanded my searches to what ever my heart desiered and BOOM... Right there, ready to DL.

They have the full version of Sims 3 with the ENTIRE Sims store built in. Also the guide for Sims 3...

- You can type in events and get tons of pictures...
- Music can be DLed by Discographys, CDs, or individual songs.
- TV programs that you would never even think of searching.

I DLed every Dragon Ball episode EVER (DB, DB Z, DB GT, every movie, and DB Kai), as well as every episode of Bill Nye the Science Guy

OP here you go:
http://www.demonoid.com/files/...&sort=


Quote, originally posted by mmm240 »
I just noticed the price. I gotta learn how to use torrents.

There is a file in there that reads "Rosetta Stone 25 Languages". It contains every language Rosseta offers.



Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: Nali at 3:19 PM 7/3/2009



Yeah torrents are crazy.
I used to use them just for Bleach episodes.

But then i expanded to movies.....then to PC games, then to whole PC programs.
3D studio, Photoshop, premiere etc. etc.

And now im dancing around with full BluRays and whole series. Dr Who, Top Gear, Friends, the office etc etc.

Rosetta Stone should be up, i know the Japanese version is up for sure, im DL'ing right now

No point paying for stuff that wont make your car go faster or handle better.

P.S RIP The Pirate Bay



Post Title: Re: (Nali)
Posted by: RCA at 3:27 PM 7/3/2009



Quote, originally posted by Nali »
P.S RIP The Pirate Bay
PB is still there...

They are going to use the newest form of P2P technology with the New Pirate Bay and I think they are going to pay people to Seed files....



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Posted by: AZ89two4Tsx at 3:29 PM 7/3/2009



Come to Arizona.



Post Title: Re: Learning a second language? (mmm240)
Posted by: Red coupe at 4:17 PM 7/3/2009

Quote, originally posted by mmm240 »
and working around them isn't enough for me to pick up on it.

How hard are you trying?

I think other then moving to a spanish speaking country this is the best way. Immersion is key.

I am by no means fluent, but I used to work at a restaurant where my job was basically to keep the cooks on time, and check the quality of food they tried to send out. I was pretty lazy about learning Spanish and really didn't try hard but still picked up a ton, pretty much just from the fact that they spoke no English and I worked with them for hours ever week. (make friends with the ones who do speak english, they are handy for explaining things and translating some of the more random stuff.)

One of my buddies worked the same job and was more into learning Spanish. He learned a pretty good amount just doing the same thing, and by asking them how to say things and having them write it down. He then basically studied all these little scraps of paper with phrases on them, and would use the it in conversation next time. It helped that they were all really into the idea of us learning Spanish, so they were very ready to do their best to teach or explain the language.


Do you talk with the guys you work with in spanish? Talk with them in spanish as much as possible, when they laugh at your mistakes laugh with them and have them correct you.
And watch spanish TV when you can, if for no other reason then the tits.



Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: Nali at 4:30 PM 7/3/2009



Quote, originally posted by rcabrita »
PB is still there...

They are going to use the newest form of P2P technology with the New Pirate Bay and I think they are going to pay people to Seed files....

The new pirate bay is going to be commercial.
So only licensed files will be available on there. They are planning on paying for any copyrighted content available.

Which means you can forget getting any DVDrips or BDrips before the DVD/BRs hit the states.
And all those steam cracked games we love, all off.

Its practically turning into Itunes but with movies and other random commercial stuff.




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Posted by: EpicNightMayor at 4:56 PM 7/3/2009



I really want to learn Japanese.



Post Title: Re: (EpicNightMayor)
Posted by: B-Boy DuB-L at 10:12 PM 7/3/2009

Rosetta Stone is the s***. My school offers it to the students and we can sign in anytime from our own computers or any computer. It's pretty cool and works...definately worth the money. Its kind of repetitive but thats good when trying to get something stuck in your head



Post Title: Re: (B-Boy DuB-L)
Posted by: maj Andres at 11:07 PM 7/3/2009

Rosetta Stone is also offered for Marines for various languages



Post Title: Re: (infinitgkid)
Posted by: mmm240 at 11:08 PM 7/3/2009

Quote, originally posted by infinitgkid »
I'd only learn a second language in order to talk to the hot foreign ladies...

Other than that, I see no point...


I do have a thing for hispanic b****es.
Quote, originally posted by PapaSmurf2k3 »

$$$ and the fact it sets you apart from the other guys applying for the same job.


I would love to add it to my resume.

Quote, originally posted by rcabrita »

OP here you go:
http://www.demonoid.com/files/...&sort=

There is a file in there that reads "Rosetta Stone 25 Languages". It contains every language Rosseta offers.


Thanks!
Quote, originally posted by Red coupe »

How hard are you trying?

I think other then moving to a spanish speaking country this is the best way. Immersion is key.

I am by no means fluent, but I used to work at a restaurant where my job was basically to keep the cooks on time, and check the quality of food they tried to send out. I was pretty lazy about learning Spanish and really didn't try hard but still picked up a ton, pretty much just from the fact that they spoke no English and I worked with them for hours ever week. (make friends with the ones who do speak english, they are handy for explaining things and translating some of the more random stuff.)

One of my buddies worked the same job and was more into learning Spanish. He learned a pretty good amount just doing the same thing, and by asking them how to say things and having them write it down. He then basically studied all these little scraps of paper with phrases on them, and would use the it in conversation next time. It helped that they were all really into the idea of us learning Spanish, so they were very ready to do their best to teach or explain the language.


Do you talk with the guys you work with in spanish? Talk with them in spanish as much as possible, when they laugh at your mistakes laugh with them and have them correct you.
And watch spanish TV when you can, if for no other reason then the tits.


I'm not trying hard. I recently started as a supervisor with a new and growing company. I'm still learning the ropes. There are quite a few cool and helpful Mexican associates. If the language barrier wasn't there I would really be able to help them out. I would say more than 50% of our associates are hispanic and about 10% of them understand English. That being said, Mexicans are damn hard workers. Puerto Ricans on the other hand...



Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: mmm240 at 11:10 PM 7/3/2009



Quote, originally posted by rcabrita »

OP here you go:
http://www.demonoid.com/files/...&sort=

Got an invitation code?



Post Title: Re: (mmm240)
Posted by: Red coupe at 11:25 PM 7/3/2009

Quote, originally posted by mmm240 »

That being said, Mexicans are damn hard workers. Puerto Ricans on the other hand...

They seriously are, the cooks were crazy and could pump out food like none other. I would basically just be managing the tickets that listed the items that were ordered, they had to do the same thing AND make the food. Sometimes even I would get backed up just trying to organize and read the orders, and somehow they could usually keep up with me. (granted more of them then there was me, but still...)

In all honesty the fact that there is a language barrier will make you learn much faster if you seriously want to. Thats what MADE me learn, because if you asked them in english (even if they understood) they would play dumb when I was telling them what to do.

There is bound to be one or two at least that speak basic english? Talk to them, and tell them that you are trying to learn a little. Ask them to teach you basic phrases that would be helpful.

Did you at least have high school Spanish? The phrase "Como se dice" (koh-moh seh dee-ceh - how do you say) is your friend, say it and point at s***.

Another one that helps is (dunno how to spell it) Da me (Da, like datsun, me like meah) which mean give me.


Just use Spanish where ever you can and ask questions, and don't be modest... you will sound dumb, you'll say things wrong, and you will learn.





Post Title: Re: (Red coupe)
Posted by: mmm240 at 11:31 PM 7/3/2009



That's good s***. I really don't need to be fluent to get my point across



Post Title: Re: (mmm240)
Posted by: RCA at 2:24 AM 7/4/2009

Quote, originally posted by mmm240 »

Got an invitation code?
Well you don't need one to DL but to become a member you do...

But no, I don't have an invitation code...



Post Title: Re: (mmm240)
Posted by: Red coupe at 2:29 AM 7/4/2009



Quote, originally posted by mmm240 »
That's good s***. I really don't need to be fluent to get my point across
yeah, like I said I don't do TOO bad, but I am no where near even pretending to be fluent.

At the restaurant however I could say almost everything that would come up in getting food from them, point out hot chicks, call people whores, and talk plenty of s***.

It was just weird when I saw them outside of work because we usually joked around, but when it came time to have a conversation.... well I could only ask them how the spinach was



Post Title: Re: (rcabrita)
Posted by: mmm240 at 7:51 AM 7/4/2009



Quote, originally posted by rcabrita »
Well you don't need one to DL but to become a member you do...

But no, I don't have an invitation code...


Everything I click on brings me back to the home page.



Post Title: Re: Learning a second language? (mmm240)
Posted by: hachiroku781 at 11:32 AM 7/4/2009

Im greek, and english is my second language. currently im waiting to sign up for a course on japanese. Im learning Khmer as well.



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Posted by: Uberck at 3:49 PM 7/4/2009

im greek and learned greek basically by raised in 100% greek family and going over there every year. it takes many years to perfect.



Post Title: Re: (Uberck)
Posted by: hachiroku781 at 3:55 PM 7/4/2009

Quote, originally posted by Uberck »
im greek and learned greek basically by raised in 100% greek family and going over there every year. it takes many years to perfect.
OMG another Hairball. Dude i thought i was the only one from the boston area on NICO. anyways its good to see you are 100% greek. Are you originally from greece? I came from Thessaloniki.



Post Title: Re: (hachiroku781)
Posted by: Uberck at 3:56 PM 7/4/2009

born in south boston mother from athina father from korinthos



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Posted by: Uberck at 3:58 PM 7/4/2009

what part lynn. there a bunch of greek malakas here just none drive 240s lol



Post Title: Re: (Uberck)
Posted by: hachiroku781 at 3:59 PM 7/4/2009

Ive never been to athens. Only to Katerini and my home village of Ritini.



Post Title: Re: (Uberck)
Posted by: hachiroku781 at 4:00 PM 7/4/2009

Quote, originally posted by Uberck »
what part lynn. there a bunch of greek malakas here just none drive 240s lol

Im from west lynn by GE. I only know two greeks that drive Nissans both Z32's



Post Title: Re: (hachiroku781)
Posted by: Uberck at 4:09 PM 7/4/2009

lol all my buddies drive s*** civics and accords. i know one kid with a z32 hes in framingham and a black dude with a 240 in worcester thats about it hehe



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Posted by: playero_loko at 1:55 AM 7/5/2009

like everyone else said, do try to watch spanish tv, movies, music, you can always google the lyrics of th songs you may like... i used index cards and placed around my house when i was trying to learn english, this way i would know whatever that was that i was looking for...

do get rid of the subtitles! worse thing you can ever have on... whenever trying to learn a new language never use them, you'll lose your concentration on how things are pronounced by how they're spelled... true story!




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