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Post Title: "Operation Dropbox" - Lowering springs for a 2009 Nissan Cube
Posted by: AZhitman at 8:43 AM 7/2/2009

http://www.nicoclub.com/articl...shtml



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Posted by: BrianHarte at 9:46 AM 7/2/2009

Ah, this makes me want to sell all my crap sooner!

I want CUBE!!

Gregory



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Posted by: Flicktitty at 10:03 AM 7/2/2009



looks pretty good, i would almost like to see it a little lower.

what drop size did you use?



Post Title: Re: (BrianHarte)
Posted by: AZhitman at 10:53 AM 7/2/2009



Quote, originally posted by BrianHarte »
I want CUBE!!

Gregory

I can haz bandwagoner plz?

I used the Megan coils. With 2 people in the back seat, it's pretty damn low... Will post more pics soon.



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Posted by: BrianHarte at 10:57 AM 7/2/2009



Pffff bandwagon my arse.



Post Title: Re: (BrianHarte)
Posted by: AZhitman at 11:03 AM 7/2/2009

Quote, originally posted by BrianHarte »
Pffff bandwagon my arse.

LULZ.

Drop it like it's not.





Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: Flicktitty at 11:49 AM 7/2/2009



it looks pretty damn good in that pic.

i like,



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Posted by: AZhitman at 12:04 PM 7/2/2009



New wheels / tires go on tomorrow.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: AZhitman at 12:13 AM 7/3/2009

Ordered plates for it today too:





Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: superskunk at 9:00 AM 7/3/2009



i still think Nissan should have made the SL trim with 6MT..... what are your other plans for your Cube? check out Bob over at versaspeed he has parts ready.....



Post Title: Re: (superskunk)
Posted by: phreakanimal at 9:24 AM 7/3/2009

Great write up.

I was hoping someone was going to install Megan springs on their Cube from the Versa.

Turned out great!



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: Flicktitty at 12:04 PM 7/3/2009



Quote, originally posted by AZhitman »
New wheels / tires go on tomorrow.

pssst. it's tomarrow.



Post Title: Re: (Flicktitty)
Posted by: AZhitman at 6:00 PM 7/3/2009



Will get better pics later. Gonna switch out the lugs for black and swap center caps, get rid of the goofy logo and space the wheels out 8mm.

Handling is ridiculously improved - Pilot Sport tires (225/45/17) make a HUGE difference. I'm impressed, and I have some good-handling cars to compare to.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: VersaMG08 at 2:23 PM 7/4/2009



That's looking hot Greg! How do you remove the logo's on the rims?



Post Title: Re: (VersaMG08)
Posted by: AZhitman at 11:09 PM 7/4/2009

Quote, originally posted by VersaMG08 »
That's looking hot Greg! How do you remove the logo's on the rims?

They're stickers.

I'll powdercoat the caps and replace the center logo with a Nissan logo.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: kc240guy at 7:20 PM 7/5/2009



I like it. It would look good with a vip style stance as well.



Post Title: Re: (kc240guy)
Posted by: schtebie at 10:06 PM 7/5/2009

The car looks great!

Do you happen to have the wheel specs? Size, offset, and speaking of which...what is the bolt pattern on the Cube??



Post Title: Re: (schtebie)
Posted by: AZhitman at 10:25 PM 7/5/2009



Quote, originally posted by schtebie »
The car looks great!

Do you happen to have the wheel specs? Size, offset, and speaking of which...what is the bolt pattern on the Cube??

These are 17x7, +42 if I recall correctly.

Bolt pattern on all Nissans is 4x114.3 (or 5x114.3 for 5-lugs).



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: elDizzle_foShizzle at 10:40 PM 7/6/2009



your cube is tight, mang. i was wondering about the rep from Megan Racing. I've read about all the horror stories. but c'mon. can coils really fail that catastrophically? anyways...your car looks tight. keep us posted of your great progress!

PS...dumb question from me, but how do spacers work? and are they safe for street use?



Post Title: Re: (elDizzle_foShizzle)
Posted by: AZhitman at 10:52 PM 7/6/2009



Quote, originally posted by elDizzle_foShizzle »
your cube is tight, mang. i was wondering about the rep from Megan Racing. I've read about all the horror stories. but c'mon. can coils really fail that catastrophically? anyways...your car looks tight. keep us posted of your great progress!

PS...dumb question from me, but how do spacers work? and are they safe for street use?

I don't listen to all that nonsense.

A lot of the stuff that's branded "Megan" is stuff that won't really "fail" anyway... I have a Megan racing downpipe.

Also, a lot of the stuff that people THINK is "big name brand" is the same stuff, powdercoated a different color and sold under a different name. Go to the SEMA show someday, you'll LOL at how FEW manufacturers there REALLY are.

I don't say anything - It's not pretty when some idiot who paid $450 for a set of springs finds out they came out of the same factory as the set you just paid $120 for.

Spacers - Good quality ones are OK for street use. I prefer bolt-on spacers for safety.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: 1HoTcUbE at 4:41 PM 7/7/2009



looks good...I prefer the low and wide look..I am already ahead of the game and got some 15x8 +0 wheels that will be installed this week with a 5mm spacer up front to clear the caliper.. Then I plan to lower the ride with either these springs or coilovers..



Post Title: Re: (1HoTcUbE)
Posted by: dangeris at 6:09 AM 7/10/2009

Loving the cube Greg! Looks slick in Black

BTW, is that the same red truck that was at Carlisle?



Post Title: Re: (dangeris)
Posted by: AZhitman at 12:25 AM 7/12/2009



Quote, originally posted by dangeris »
Loving the cube Greg! Looks slick in Black

BTW, is that the same red truck that was at Carlisle?

Thanks Homey!

Yep, that's Bex's truck, it was in Carlisle.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: smac103 at 10:50 PM 7/12/2009



AZhitman, this seems like a pretty straightforward conversion for me to do (done this on other cars), but i have a couple questions,
has it had any effect on the caster or camber, any wandering feel at speed (i mean any more than this model has already, lol) and is a rear wheel alignment necessary, or even applicable?
BTW thanks for the ton of useful info so far!



Post Title: Re: (smac103)
Posted by: AZhitman at 11:17 PM 7/12/2009

Quote, originally posted by smac103 »
AZhitman, this seems like a pretty straightforward conversion for me to do (done this on other cars), but i have a couple questions,
has it had any effect on the caster or camber, any wandering feel at speed (i mean any more than this model has already, lol) and is a rear wheel alignment necessary, or even applicable?
BTW thanks for the ton of useful info so far!

Yes. You WILL need an alignment ANY TIME you lower a car.

Glad to help!



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: conenubi701 at 11:32 AM 7/16/2009



me and the gf are thinking of getting a cube.



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Posted by: AZhitman at 1:40 PM 7/18/2009

Do it!

I really like mine, more than I did when I bought it.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: viscid240 at 1:53 PM 7/18/2009



I need to take the works down there and put them on your cube. Bronze might work out well:) looks good, I so want one.

you provide the roller and I will roll them for you for fun. Like I did on my girls s14 that day, smooth.


-Andrew



Post Title: Re: (viscid240)
Posted by: schtebie at 4:39 PM 7/18/2009



Any more pics of your Cube on the new wheels?



Post Title: Re: (viscid240)
Posted by: AZhitman at 4:40 PM 7/18/2009

Quote, originally posted by viscid240 »
I need to take the works down there and put them on your cube. Bronze might work out well:) looks good, I so want one.

you provide the roller and I will roll them for you for fun. Like I did on my girls s14 that day, smooth.


-Andrew

DO IT!

Actually, no need to roll fenders - There's no lip on the Cube fenders!



Post Title: Re: (schtebie)
Posted by: AZhitman at 4:41 PM 7/18/2009



Quote, originally posted by schtebie »
Any more pics of your Cube on the new wheels?

I'll get a few - Still catching up from being on vacation....



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: schtebie at 3:35 PM 7/21/2009



Quote, originally posted by AZhitman »

I'll get a few - Still catching up from being on vacation....

Oh, and another question...do you plan on throwing those spacers on soon? It'd be nice to see the clearance between the tire and fender when it's pushed out that extra 8mm...





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Posted by: AZhitman at 10:58 PM 7/21/2009



Can do.

I have a list of about 25 different car tasks / installs that I need to catch up on... Ugh!



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: schtebie at 6:37 AM 7/22/2009



Quote, originally posted by AZhitman »
Can do.

I have a list of about 25 different car tasks / installs that I need to catch up on... Ugh!


Sweet. Can't wait to see how it looks!



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Posted by: damian666robin at 10:43 PM 7/24/2009



man whatta day! i started around 2pm and finish just about 9pm.

i follow hitman recomendations to install megan lowering springs
it went pretty good, altough i need it a few more tools than what i thought
it took me extra long since i took some extra measurements on the oem brake kit, just guess why? he he
i will post pics in a little bit....i need a little brake i am very tired!



Post Title: Re: (damian666robin)
Posted by: elDizzle_foShizzle at 11:30 PM 7/24/2009



Quote, originally posted by damian666robin »
man whatta day! i started around 2pm and finish just about 9pm.

i follow hitman recomendations to install megan lowering springs
it went pretty good, altough i need it a few more tools than what i thought
it took me extra long since i took some extra measurements on the oem brake kit, just guess why? he he
i will post pics in a little bit....i need a little brake i am very tired!

let's see...you gonna put some nice, low offset, fat lip action wheels?



Post Title: Re: (elDizzle_foShizzle)
Posted by: damian666robin at 11:50 PM 7/24/2009



he he well close on the wheels but nop! i am getting detailed measurements because willwood is helping me to create a custom big brake kit for the cube
they help me big time with the wide body xb and they are close to me so i am doing a lot of homework so i can see it happen and hopefully soon will be ready



Post Title: Re: "Operation Dropbox" - Lowering springs for a 2009 Nissan Cube (AZhitman)
Posted by: elDizzle_foShizzle at 12:04 AM 7/27/2009

Thx for posting the procedures for this up! It took me and 2 friends just about 2.5 hrs to get it done! Best mod on my Cube yet!

Check it out:



Let's see other dropped Cubes here!



Post Title: Re: "Operation Dropbox" - Lowering s ... (elDizzle_foShizzle)
Posted by: superskunk at 2:12 AM 7/27/2009



still sits too high, someone put some coilovers into their cube!



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Posted by: damian666robin at 12:12 PM 7/27/2009

remember those coils from the other thread thosr rs-r and aistar..those are some badass jdm coils, his cube looks fine just tires need to be a little more bigger, i did that mistake with my wifes mazda 3 i lowered with megan but i put rubberband tires and man i got flamed big time on the mazda forums lol!



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Posted by: AZhitman at 5:34 PM 7/27/2009

Not a good idea to go much lower - There's not a lot of suspension travel left now, and I'm pretty sure the OEM shocks are gonna be shagged within a month (they're operating way outta their design range).




Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: elDizzle_foShizzle at 8:46 PM 7/28/2009

how do i know if my stock shocks are shot?



Post Title: Re: (elDizzle_foShizzle)
Posted by: TBrack at 8:53 PM 7/28/2009

coilovers seem like the way to go to get any kind of good fitment, maybe bags...



Post Title: Re: (elDizzle_foShizzle)
Posted by: AZhitman at 10:03 PM 7/28/2009

Quote, originally posted by elDizzle_foShizzle »
how do i know if my stock shocks are shot?

Operating them with a 1" - 2" drop will shag them out in short order.

They'll then be operating outside of their designed stroke range.

If you're not lowered, they're still fine.



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Posted by: ViolentRunning13 at 9:29 AM 7/29/2009



Greggg could you get better pictures from the side? I want to get a better idea of the drop the springs gave you.



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Posted by: AZhitman at 9:39 AM 7/29/2009

It's certainly not "VRT drop"...

Yep - I've been so slammed, but I promise I'll get to it.

Hell, I've only washed the damn thing once since I bought it!



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: elDizzle_foShizzle at 9:23 PM 8/15/2009



I’ve followed your lead and installed Megan Racing springs on my Cube Torqued everything up to factory specs after the install and about a week later, started hearing a “knocking” or “popping” sound from both front sides. It almost sounds like the springs where wiggling around in there. (They're not.) It’s most noticeable when I turn or go over bumps. Has this happened to you? It’s an annoying sound for sure. I pulled the front wheels off and re-inspected the install, and it looked clean. I noticed that, loaded, the bottom two coils were fully compressed. I dunno if that has anything to do with it or not. Could it be the sway bar doing its thing with the stiffer suspension? Bushings? Any input you could give would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
elD



Post Title: Re: (elDizzle_foShizzle)
Posted by: damian666robin at 12:13 AM 8/16/2009



how many miles you have on your cube?

mine did that cracking noise only once but after that never again,it sounded more like a bumper breaking into the everyday drive and LA streets

and i did notice a diference after the cube past the 800 miles, the drive felt better and a bit faster on the throttle....way i dont know.... but it did



Post Title: Re: (damian666robin)
Posted by: elDizzle_foShizzle at 12:21 AM 8/16/2009



i have just about 5800 mi on the Cube so far. The car handles just fine, but that popping sound is friggin irritating.



Post Title: Re: (damian666robin)
Posted by: smac103 at 11:00 PM 8/21/2009

kinda off topic for this thread, but damina, i also noticed a significant difference in the pickup and throttle response at about the 800 to 1000 mile mark on mine, makes you wonder if it is programmed into the break-in procedure for the vehicle. i wouldnt doubt it for a second, especially considering that this a "drive by wire" vehicle. btw, did you ever notice that if you stab the accererator to the floor VERY quickly and immediately release, that the engine never breaks idle, even in park or neutral? the "drive by wire" thing takes a bit of getting used to when doing a quick dive into traffic. you hafta commit a bit early. had a couple of hairy traffic situations before i got used to that lag....



Post Title: Re: (smac103)
Posted by: smac103 at 11:01 PM 8/21/2009

not damina,... damian,... lol, my keyboard is new too...lol



Post Title: Re: (smac103)
Posted by: damian666robin at 12:37 AM 8/22/2009

Quote, originally posted by smac103 »
not damina,... damian,... lol, my keyboard is new too...lol

haaaa haaa! dont trip man! but yeah the cube haves the same drive by wire that my audi tt haves which makes it very strong with fast response and no throttle lag
telling you man i still get impressed of all the stuff this cube came for the price it runs for! i love it!



Post Title: Re: "Operation Dropbox" - Lowering springs for a 2009 Nissan Cube (AZhitman)
Posted by: Qubic at 4:31 PM 10/21/2009



Your cube looks nice lowered. I've also been thinking of lowering my cube as well as increasing the wheel size, partially for looks but definitely to stiffen up the ride and handling.

How much did it actually get lowered with those Megan springs?

With the 17" wheels you now have (with +42 offset) and the 225/45R17 tires, how much space is there between the tire and the wheel well? How much space between the inside of the front tires and the suspension arm and the inner part of the wheel well at max turn?




Post Title: Re: (elDizzle_foShizzle)
Posted by: Qubic at 4:44 PM 10/21/2009



I saw your pics with your aftermarket wheels/tires and thought they seemed a little too low profile for 17" wheels for this car.

I noticed you put 205/40's on them which end up being over 4% difference in diameter (and over 4% too fast on the speedo). It's recommended that you don't go more than 3% difference.

A set of 215/40's would be a bit better (2.75% diameter difference and 2.8% too fast on the speedo), or like AZHitman, a set of 225/45's (only 2.13% diameter difference and 2.17% slower on the speedo).




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