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Post Title: Brake Lights Not Working on 97 Q45
Posted by: tommyg at 6:16 PM 6/28/2009

I searched the message board for solutions to my problem, but couldnt find anything specific to my situation and could use some guidance. My stop lamps/brake lights dont light up when I press the brake pedal. I have tried the following:

1. Replaced all the bulbs and checked the wiring to the bulbs.

2. Checked the engine compartment for frayed or disconnected wires and didnt see anything obvious.

3. Checked the fuse with a circuit tester and it is working (power running through it and lights on both sides of the fuse).

4. Bought a new brake light switch and tested to see if the switch was the cause and it wasnt (the brake lights didnt light up when the new switch was connected).

Am I missing anything obvious (such as a relay or another switch in the trunk area)? I noticed there was another switch the brake pedal activates next to the brake light switch. Should I test this one?

I also wanted to see if anyone would be willing to share a wiring diagram for my vehicle? Thanks. I appreciate any help.

Tom

Modified by tommyg at 10:54 PM 6/29/2009



Post Title: Re: Brake Lights Not Working on 97 Q45 (tommyg)
Posted by: Q451990 at 9:45 PM 6/28/2009



Your FSM (factory service manual) is available in our library at http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/

If I remember correctly the '97 one is incomplete, but the '98 version should be very similar and help you out with this.

The other brake pedal switch is is for the cruise control. Other than that I don't have a lot of specific knowledge about the later Q45s.

Good luck!

Heath



Post Title: Re: Brake Lights Not Working on 97 Q45 (Q451990)
Posted by: tommyg at 2:53 PM 6/29/2009



Many thanks! After looking at the diagram it looks like it could possibly be the Stop and Tail Lamp Sensor, but I am having trouble finding the part. Can anyone tell me where it is located on the car and what the part number is? If anyone has a picture that would also be helpful. Thanks again.



Post Title: Re: Brake Lights Not Working on 97 Q45 (tommyg)
Posted by: goody90q45 at 4:06 PM 6/29/2009

According to your FSM it's in about the same place as the 90-96 Q45's. Look under the trunk trim below the trunk lock. It's adjacent to the trunk lock actuator. See page EL-422 of the 98 FSM.

I was able to repair mine by resoldering a couple of burnt solder joints. Follow the path of the pins, especially the ground, and see if there's evidence of solder melting or burning. They're about $90 new so it's worth the effort to try and repair the sensor.

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/Q4...l.pdf



Post Title: Re: Brake Lights Not Working on 97 Q45 (goody94q45)
Posted by: tommyg at 1:27 PM 6/30/2009



Thanks. Opened up the Stop and Tail Light Sensor today and didnt see anything burnt out or damaged. Also, checked the connection with a circuit tester with the brake pedal down and didnt show any power.

Is it possible it could be a joint connector? Do those usually go bad? Also, what is the color of the wire I should test further up the line (sorry, this is my first time at this)? Thanks again for your help.

Tom


Modified by tommyg at 5:56 AM 7/1/2009

Modified by tommyg at 5:57 AM 7/1/2009




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