looks good... def. going to order it :D
Post Title:
Posted by: Timmbo at 7:45 AM 2/26/2008
there are currently to my understanding to wires that need to be cut.
1) the e-brake
2) speed sensor
i currently was able to figure out the e-brake wire, cut it and grounded it and i have video without the e-brake being on. now video shows while car is stoped as soon as car is in motion a message apears stated video will resume is stoped.
this is where the speed sensor wire needs to be cut to by pass that message.
can anyone help me out with this..
thanks in advance.....
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (236697)
Posted by: Timmbo at 6:07 PM 12/26/2007
| Quote, originally posted by Alegre323 » |
| can this work on a 05 QX56? (nav) |
The '05 models are actually very simple if you have the Nav and DVD packages. The '08 and newer already have the feed from the DVD player being sent to the Nav screen, however, you can't watch on the Nav screen unless the E-Brake is on, and the vehicle is in a stationary position.
I previously owned an '04 QX56, and all I had to purchase was the switch unit from TV and Nav 2 Go and installed that, with a switch from Radio Shack (to flip the Nav screen from Nav to DVD) and then you can watch DVD's on the rear and front Nav screen, even while you are cruising down the interstate, of course that is for the passenger in the passenger seat, not the driver!
Post Title: Re: (Timmbo)
Posted by: Alegre323 at 10:06 AM 2/25/2008
| Quote, originally posted by Timmbo » |
The '05 models are actually very simple if you have the Nav and DVD packages. The '08 and newer already have the feed from the DVD player being sent to the Nav screen, however, you can't watch on the Nav screen unless the E-Brake is on, and the vehicle is in a stationary position. I previously owned an '04 QX56, and all I had to purchase was the switch unit from TV and Nav 2 Go and installed that, with a switch from Radio Shack (to flip the Nav screen from Nav to DVD) and then you can watch DVD's on the rear and front Nav screen, even while you are cruising down the interstate, of course that is for the passenger in the passenger seat, not the driver! |
I actually had the unit where you cut your own wires, NOT the plug & play model. I like this one because it allows you to make the connection underneath your passenger seat where the Nav DVD rom drive is located. That is much easier than trying to rip your dash apart to get to the back of the Nav Screen. The one thing people had an issue with is when you watch a DVD, you would still see the HVAC display on the bottom portion of the screen while you were watching the movie, but by making the connection at the back of the Nav DVD rom drive, all you have to to is hit the "Route" button, and all you will then see on the screen is the movie you are watching......the cool thing is if you raise the temp or change the vent or something, it shows up for a few seconds, and then disappears again. I was very happy the the TV and Nav 2 Go unit.
Post Title: Re: (Timmbo)
Posted by: Alegre323 at 2:46 PM 2/25/2008
| Quote, originally posted by Timmbo » |
| http://www.tvandnav2go.com/in-car-dvd.html
|
looks good... def. going to order it :D
Post Title:
Posted by: Timmbo at 7:45 AM 2/26/2008
http://navtv.selectinterface.c...id=12
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (236697)
Posted by: Timmbo at 7:15 AM 7/2/2008
Half way down on the left side it says "from +12volt switch" That is the wire that will trigger your relays from the switch. I didn’t show the switch wiring, this will be different depending on what type of switch you have. If you have just a basic "un-lit" switch then one end will go to your switched 12volt source and the other end will go to the relays like I have shown. A good source for your switched 12volts is at the 12volt socket in the black pocket. this is a switched source and the relays are not passing any current so this power will be more than enough..
As far as relays, go into any audio shop and ask them for a basic 12 volt Bosch/tyco 30 amp relay. If they don’t have that then ask for a Potter & Brumfield 40 amp. This will be the same place that should have your standard 1amp diode. And usually will have a cool round rocker like I used.
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)
Posted by: GrillAg98 at 2:35 PM 7/9/2008
| Quote, originally posted by GrillAg98 » |
| This is a pretty sweet mod. How does it differ from the QX56 wiring, etc? Did you just clip the speedsense and e-brake? I guess I'm not getting how the relay, pin 82 and 80 and switch all tie together. Forgive my ignorance. |
I don't quite understand it all myself, but I know it works, and that is really all that matters. The QX56 and the Armada are the same for doing this mod.
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)
Posted by: 236697 at 9:50 AM 9/14/2008
106 - Ground Parking brake signal
107 - Ground Vehicle speed signal
You do not need the relay's unless you want the option to switch back and forth from factory to modified. Just cut the two wires (be sure to leave enough wire from both the rear of the radio and the harness. MAKE SURE NO TO CUT THE WIRE TO SHORT OR YOU WILL BE SCREWED. Take the wires from the rear of the radio and ground them and you have the option of displaying movies on the front screen.
If you dont want to display the movie in the front screen while driving just press the status button on the radio and it will display the default Nissan screen. To revert back to the movie press the DVD/AUX bottom under the FM/AM button and it will display the movie.
Hope this helps everyone.....And the best thing about it is you dont have to spend money an any after market parts.
Post Title: Re: (Timmbo)
Posted by: apatahunga at 8:29 AM 9/22/2008
| Quote, originally posted by BmoreQX56 » |
| Could you elaborate more on your comment regarding the cutting of the wires? Where do you cut them? How much length do you need to leave? How do you suggest to ground them? |
Since you're close to me, have you figured this out? I'd love for my wife to be able to watch DVd's up front so leave be quiet and leave me the hell alone while I'm driving 
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)
Posted by: bkelly at 7:45 PM 11/2/2008
but i was just cruising down the road at 45 mph watching kung fu panda 
this mod gets 
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (bkelly)
Posted by: 236697 at 5:16 PM 12/15/2008
What exactly does the relay do?
How do I know which wires to connect where on the relay?
What relay is the best to use for this mod?
Where do you suggest getting the relay from? (does Radio Shack have this?)
Thanks so much for your feedback, I really appreciate it, I will be able to better assist others with this mod on the forum as well.
Happy Holidays! 
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)
Posted by: GrillAg98 at 1:40 PM 12/31/2008
| Quote, originally posted by Timmbo » |
| I am going to finally be performing this mod on my '08 Armada. The only questions I have are regarding the relay. What exactly does the relay do?
Happy Holidays! |
the relay and switch, as i assume (since i didnt use it) was just to power the rocker switch, which allowed the speed sensor to either be turned on, or turned off, allowing the screen to play movies. so the switch is so you can go from "modified" to "unmodified"
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (bkelly)
Posted by: hockeyguy21 at 4:02 PM 12/31/2008
| Quote, originally posted by bkelly » |
| Once I installed the 5 prong relays and grounded the brake wire at the back of the head unit everything works great. This is the best mod you can make to the 2008 QX56. |
hows the lag on the GPS? it seems without the relays my dads GPS system lags a whole lot.
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (hockeyguy21)
Posted by: Timmbo at 8:07 PM 12/31/2008
| Quote, originally posted by hockeyguy21 » |
hows the lag on the GPS? it seems without the relays my dads GPS system lags a whole lot. |
The lag is almost a non-factor. I just completed the mod 4 days ago and usally within 15-30 seconds the Nav catches up when you flip the switch back.
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)
Posted by: hockeyguy21 at 9:49 PM 12/31/2008
| Quote, originally posted by Timmbo » |
The lag is almost a non-factor. I just completed the mod 4 days ago and usally within 15-30 seconds the Nav catches up when you flip the switch back. |
maybe i should install the switch then.
howd ou wire that switch up?
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (hockeyguy21)
Posted by: Timmbo at 7:50 AM 1/1/2009
| Quote, originally posted by hockeyguy21 » |
maybe i should install the switch then. |
I don't know that the switch would make it go any quicker. The other problem is that you would also have to place a switch in the e-brake wire, and just doing the switch will cause the "BRAKE" light to stay illuminated on your dash when you are watching video on the front screen.....that is unless you simply ground that wire instead of placing it on a switch, but then when you actually have your e-brake on, the "BRAKE" light will NOT be on. Just some things to think about.
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (236697)
Posted by: airwolf09 at 5:33 AM 1/11/2009
| Quote, originally posted by 236697 » |
| The above illustration is correct if you have the Navigation, but the system that does not include navigation is a little different. The procedure for Non-Nav 08 Nissian armada is to remove move the radio as shown above. The differance is in the radio itself and the pins. For the Non-Nav its pins 106 & 107. 106 - Ground Parking brake signal You do not need the relay's unless you want the option to switch back and forth from factory to modified. Just cut the two wires (be sure to leave enough wire from both the rear of the radio and the harness. MAKE SURE NO TO CUT THE WIRE TO SHORT OR YOU WILL BE SCREWED. Take the wires from the rear of the radio and ground them and you have the option of displaying movies on the front screen. If you dont want to display the movie in the front screen while driving just press the status button on the radio and it will display the default Nissan screen. To revert back to the movie press the DVD/AUX bottom under the FM/AM button and it will display the movie. Hope this helps everyone.....And the best thing about it is you dont have to spend money an any after market parts.
|
do you have the picture of how the wiring connect to the relay, switch and pin?
is this a 3 pins relay or 4 pins relay. greatly appreciated if you have the wiring diagram of how all the wires go to the switch and relay.
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (bkelly)
Posted by: airwolf09 at 10:51 AM 1/11/2009
| Quote, originally posted by bkelly » |
| Once I installed the 5 prong relays and grounded the brake wire at the back of the head unit everything works great. This is the best mod you can make to the 2008 QX56. |
can you please post how you get the wiring connected to the relay and the switch? and where can i get the relay?
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (airwolf09)
Posted by: Timmbo at 12:10 PM 1/11/2009
| Quote, originally posted by airwolf09 » |
can you please post how you get the wiring connected to the relay and the switch? and where can i get the relay? |
Welcome to NICOclub! Glad to have you here in the Armada/QX56 Forum!
When I did this mod, I purchased the relays pre-wired with the switch from a gentleman named Shane. He owns a company called Tintmasters in the Dakotas. He will be posting a message soon here, but if you would like to order the relays with the switch (including detailed instructions), please e-mail him at: tntmstr@aol.com He charges about $50 (includes shipping) and trust me, this makes it an extremely easy mod to perform!
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)
Posted by: tintmasters at 9:34 AM 1/17/2009
the relay pack I make will have more detailed instructions than those I have already posted. If you are a 12volt savvy person, the instructions I have given will make it a snap. If you are a novice, the instructions I will supply you with will make it simple.
Any one interested in the mod, the pricing is as follows.
$50 LED round rocker switch Blue or Red LED (13/16" hole)
$45 Standard mini toggle switch.
Pricing includes Priority Mail
If you choose to purchase the mod, please paypal me at tntmstr@aol.com
In the info bar please include what type and/or color of switch and what type of Nissan you have, with or without NAV.
***** This modification is to be used as a novelty item and/or for address entry into the navigation by a passenger, while the vehicle is in motion. I do not condone operation of a vehicle while being distracted by full motion video. By sending funds for this modification you are taking full responsibility for YOUR actions. This relay pack can be used for many other functions. What you choose to do with it is your option. This modification is guaranteed to work. But I cannot guarantee your ability to install it correctly. I will take no responsibility for any incorrect installation. If you choose the round rocker switch you will be required to brill a 13/16" hole in a dash panel. If you do not have access to the correct size step bit for this I will not take your modification back. You will need to re-order a new modification with the small toggle switch. Please make sure you can acquire the correct tools you will need for the job. Please check your local and state laws and understand your consequences.
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (236697)
Posted by: donkjote at 5:12 PM 1/18/2009
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (donkjote)
Posted by: donkjote at 5:37 PM 1/18/2009
| Quote, originally posted by donkjote » |
| I have a 2008 armada without navigation and I was trying to do this mod. the problem is that my plugs in the back of the radio don't look like the diagram you have here or the one with the navigatoin. do you know if there is another radio that was used in the 08 armada that has a different plug layout? if so, can you help me with which are the correct pins i need to ground? a picture of the back of my radio is attached. the gray plug is on the top left side if you are looking at the radio from the back. model of the radio is visteon 25915 zq20b. [IMG][/IMG] |
Welcome to NICOclub! Glad to have you here in the Armada/QX56 Forum!
Yes, there are two different head units and two different sets of plugs. There it the unit with Nav, and the unit without Nav. The Factory Service Manual for the Armada will show you which wires are the VSS and the E-Brake. Here is a link to the FSM on NICOclub:
http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/armada/
Let me know if you have any more questions!
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)
Posted by: donkjote at 7:14 PM 1/18/2009
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...2.pdf
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (donkjote)
Posted by: Timmbo at 9:12 AM 1/19/2009
Go to page 203 of the service manual. That wiring/terminal diagram looks just like what you took a picture of. The terminal block that you will work on is the block that has 32 wires (two rows of 16). You will be working with pin (wire) 106 and 107 according to the FSM. If you scroll down a few pages from there, you will see that 106 is being identified as the Parking Brake Signal, and 107 as the VSS.
That should help, let me know how things work out!
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)
Posted by: donkjote at 9:48 AM 1/19/2009
| Quote, originally posted by donkjote » |
| i have identified the 32 pin connector but the back of my radio has three plugs on the top row (including the gray plug) and four plugs on the bottom row. the diagram on page 203 shows 3 plugs on the top, three plugs on the bottowm. i just don't want to cut and ground two wires that may not be correct. are the diagrams on the fsm supposed to match the back of the radio? |
It is the 32 pin connector, just make sure you orient your diagram correctly so you cut the correct two wires. Make sure you leave enough wire to splice a connector back to add wire or connect the wires again someday or if you decided to add in the relays.
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)
Posted by: donkjote at 10:47 AM 1/19/2009
| Quote, originally posted by donkjote » |
| i took a chance and did just that before getting this response. it worked. i already put it back together. thanks. |
Glad it all worked for you. So do you have an aftermarket DVD player you are hooking to that?
Post Title: Re: (Timmbo)
Posted by: donkjote at 12:09 PM 1/19/2009
| Quote, originally posted by donkjote » |
| it has the factory dvd but you could only watch it on the front screen when the vehicle was stationary. |
Ahhh, I guess I never realized that you could get the factory DVD without getting the Navigation. Cool!
Post Title: Re: (Timmbo)
Posted by: mike9954 at 8:42 PM 1/20/2009
| Quote, originally posted by mike9954 » |
| does ne1 know were i go to 2 order the bypass for my ex35? |
Welcome to NICOclub! Click on the link below:
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...rride
If you go the relay route (which I recommend) you can purchase the relay pack from Shane @ Tintmasters.
Post Title: 370z with navi mod
Posted by: mellertson at 7:59 PM 1/26/2009
I'm new to moding cars. Does anyone know where I can get the wiring diagram for my car?
Peace...
Post Title: Re: 370z with navi mod (mellertson)
Posted by: Timmbo at 7:46 AM 1/27/2009
| Quote, originally posted by mellertson » |
| I just purchased the 2009 370z with the Navi. The video inputs work great with my iPod but of course the video stops when I don't have the ebrake on or I move the car... I'm wondering if anyone knows if this mod will work for the 370z... I'm new to moding cars. Does anyone know where I can get the wiring diagram for my car? Peace... |
Welcome to NICOclub! Thanks for visiting the Armada/QX56 Forum! Congrats on the new 370z, that is a sweet purchase! YES, the mod can be performed on your car. The only issue at this point is that the vehicle is so new that we do not have a Factory Service Manual available at this time. However, we do have the G37 Coupe, which I would be willing to bet has the same wiring harness as your 370z. Here is a link to the G37 manual:
http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/g37/
So they only issue then would be pulling apart your dash to get to the back of the stereo to tap into the E-Brake wire and the VSS wire.
Post Title: Re: 370z with navi mod (Timmbo)
Posted by: tintmasters at 3:22 PM 1/27/2009
But i have done this and it works great.........
Post Title: Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (236697)
Posted by: Timmbo at 7:22 AM 2/3/2009
| Quote, originally posted by 236697 » |
| I did not have to use the relay any everything works fine. I dont understand why everyone is having so many problems with this. I aslo do not have navigation. i purchase my armada without navigation but have the bose theater system. You just have to cut the wires from the rear of the radio and ground the wires. I dont remember excatly but i think you ground the wires that are still attached to the back of the radio. that why you dont cut the wires to short..... But i have done this and it works great......... |
If you DO have Navigation, then you need to use Shane's relay pack or a DPDT switch in order for the Navigation to function properly.
Post Title: Re: (Alegre323)
Posted by: mtyler72 at 3:05 PM 3/19/2009
| Quote, originally posted by mtyler72 » |
| I just got an 05 infiniti Qx56. I have both the rear DVD and front Nav. Can I watch DVDs on the Nav screen if the car is NOT in motion and if so how? |
Welcome to the Armada/QX56 Forum! Glad to have you as member of NICOclub!
You can do a modification so that you can watch the DVD on the front Nav screen, it will work while the vehicle is in park and while it is motion. You need to purchase the switch unit from TV&Nav2 Go, you can purchase this from:
You will then run a regular set of Audio/Video cables from underneath your passenger seat to the center console and connect it to the proper video wires located in one of the wire connecters. It takes a little time to complete, but is well worth it, it is a great modification!
Post Title: Blue LED Switch keep burn out
Posted by: airwolf09 at 12:20 PM 3/20/2009
but I have no problem using the Red LED switch. It is the same switch and rating the same just different color.
anyone have any idea? 
Post Title:
Posted by: Timmbo at 6:40 PM 3/22/2009
| Quote, originally posted by sixdog » |
| What are the downfalls of just grounding the ebrake and speed sensor on a 08 Armada with navigation. I am about to do this mod for my friend and i am curios why the switch is needed on the Nav models? |
First off, welcome to the Armada / QX56 Forum, always a pleasure greeting new members of NICOclub!
If you DON'T use a switch your Navigation will barely work (it will work, but it will be extremely choppy, and not as accurate, it will have at the very least a 30 second delay).
All you have to do is get a $5 DPDT switch and you will be good to go, best $5 spent ever! 
Post Title: Re: '08 Armada/QX56 Watch DVD's on your Navigation Screen! (Timmbo)
Posted by: sixdog at 6:47 AM 6/2/2009
The VSS wires does NOT have to be grounded, it can float and it will still allow video.
There is no need for a relay, that is just making extra work.
All you need is a SPST switch inline with the VSS signal and to permanently ground the navi side of the parking brake wire. When you throw the switch it will kill the navi positioning (since the navi positioning isn't actually GPS based, it's VSS and electronic compass based) but as soon as you turn off the switch (and restore the VSS signal) the navi will update it (because it constantly verifies current position with GPS data when the vehicle is moving).
Post Title:
Posted by: Timmbo at 7:21 PM 6/9/2009
I have replaced all wires and tried a new switch, I am positive that i tapped the right wires. What is the matter????
Modified by sixdog at 5:19 PM 6/12/2009
Modified by sixdog at 5:20 PM 6/12/2009
Post Title: Re: (sixdog)
Posted by: Timmbo at 6:55 PM 6/12/2009
| Quote, originally posted by sixdog » |
| I did this mod to my buddies armada with just spst switch and it worked fine for a night, now when both wires are connected to the switch the light on the switch goes out and the mod stops working in the on position. Is there a fuse I can check to see if I blew? I take 1 of the speed sensor wires off and the light comes back on , i touch the wire to the pole and it goes off. I am lost here. I have replaced all wires and tried a new switch, I am positive that i tapped the right wires. What is the matter????
|
What two wires are connected to the switch?
Post Title: Re: (Timmbo)
Posted by: sixdog at 6:21 AM 6/13/2009
| Quote, originally posted by sixdog » |
| I cut the vss wire and connected each side to the switch. I also have a ground connected to the switch. |
You need a SPDT switch, not a SPST. Make sense?
Post Title: Re: (Timmbo)
Posted by: 63onair at 7:24 AM 6/19/2009
----------------UPDATE------------------------
I found the service manuals on the forum and it is the same for the '09 models. It worked like a champ. Probably the quickest, easiest, and most useful mod ever. Thanks guys, I'm sure this won't be the last time I pick your brains.
Modified by 63onair at 1:54 PM 6/19/2009
Post Title: Re:
Posted by: hockeyguy21 at 12:08 PM 6/21/2009
i currently have this relay
http://www.parts-express.com//...0-070
as well as a LED switch with 3 prongs, POWER, LOAD, and GROUND
please someone help me wire this. i need to have it up and running today
Post Title:
Posted by: Timmbo at 7:32 PM 6/21/2009
now, when wiring the switch, you need to take the dash apart, cut the speedsensor and ebrake wires (look at the illustrations from earlier in this thread). after they are cut, you will need to attach the wires as shown in my illustration below. 
any questions or advice, let me know im still working on this myself!
Mike
Post Title:
Posted by: Timmbo at 7:37 PM 6/23/2009
Glad I could help you out with the e-mails, you should "cleverly" hide the switch just under the dash, to the right of the steering wheel, there is a space about a 1/2" wide which allow just enough room to snugly fit with 3M double sided tape on each side.
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