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Post Title: S13 bolt in tension arm brace
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 7:55 PM 7/23/2007

Ok boys and girls...I have been working on this for a while, and I have had some great success with this bolt in kit. Basicly I designed this as an alternative to the Nismo Power Brace. Nismo makes a great product, but I thought there was room for improvement.
With my kit it is not nessasary to to take out all front end to install the brace. It bolts in using existing holes in the brackets, this allows for quick install, and not having the need to realign your car...although it is probilly a good Idea.
The kit includes a cross brace, anti crush spacers, sandwich plates, all grade 8 hardware, and a vial of red loctite to keep it all together.
Here is a pic of the parts and the tools required to install.

I sell the whole kit for $90.00 plus shipping
Being that I am one guy fabbing these please contact me for availbility.
I take Paypal for payment.

Installed pics

Any questions feel free to ask away.
Thanks
Jonnie



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Posted by: mestizo at 8:12 PM 7/23/2007



Jon is LEGIT! I got one of only two welded versions of this brace and what difference it made. The bolt on version is just as good! Quality and customer service are top notch with Jon!



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Posted by: Dano at 12:32 AM 7/24/2007

Are the pieces just painted or are they powdercoated?

S14 piece in the future?

-Dan



Post Title: Re: (mestizo)
Posted by: Repo Man at 6:50 AM 7/24/2007



Quote, originally posted by mestizo »
Jon is LEGIT! I got one of only two welded versions of this brace and what difference it made. The bolt on version is just as good! Quality and customer service are top notch with Jon!

Did it help to stiffen the front end of your 'vert mestizo?



Post Title: Re: (repo man)
Posted by: mestizo at 11:29 AM 7/24/2007



Quote, originally posted by Dano »
Are the pieces just painted or are they powdercoated?

S14 piece in the future?

-Dan

At the moment they are just painted, but I believe that powder coating may be offered later. That just depends on getting a good powder coating place and deal on the price. As for an S14 brace, Jon has made some prototypes but the people he has sent them to for test fitment have yet to install them. So until they install the braces we will not know for sure.


Quote, originally posted by repo man »

Did it help to stiffen the front end of your 'vert mestizo?

I don't have a vert, mine is a coupe. But to answer your question it stiffened the front end of my car considerably. I had to relearn my car after I put it on. Funny thing is the whole car feels more stable and even got quieter while driving or going over bumps/railroad tracks.



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Posted by: Dano at 12:00 PM 7/24/2007



Awesome, well keep me updated on S14 version!

-Dan

PS, your NSX is bbbbbbbeautiful



Post Title: Re: (mestizo)
Posted by: Repo Man at 12:49 PM 7/24/2007



Quote, originally posted by mestizo »

I don't have a vert, mine is a coupe. But to answer your question it stiffened the front end of my car considerably. I had to relearn my car after I put it on. Funny thing is the whole car feels more stable and even got quieter while driving or going over bumps/railroad tracks.

Oh hell, I guess it would help if I looked a little closer to your pic. With the darkness and my blindness it looked like a 'vert with the top up. I may have to order two when the ol' checking account gets reloaded.



Post Title: Re: (repo man)
Posted by: mestizo at 1:58 PM 7/24/2007



Quote, originally posted by Dano »
Awesome, well keep me updated on S14 version!

-Dan

PS, your NSX is bbbbbbbeautiful


Yes as soon as we get word that fitment is good then I am sure Jon will start selling them. Thanks for the compliment on my NSX, not many people understand what look I was going for, basically I wanted it to look like a JGTC NSX rolling on the streets.


Quote, originally posted by repo man »

Oh hell, I guess it would help if I looked a little closer to your pic. With the darkness and my blindness it looked like a 'vert with the top up. I may have to order two when the ol' checking account gets reloaded.

LOL no problem, and when you get some spare cash just give Jon an email he will be more than happy to get back to you. Great thing is Jon is like most of us are, and that is hard working people who want to pay decent prices on good quality parts. Hence why these bars are priced the way they are. Not to mention they are awesome quality.



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Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 9:09 PM 7/26/2007



Ok a quick update...Since I am a bit of an unknown here on Nico I am sending a couple of braces out to some of your most respected members to get some feedback from them. I believe there will be a write up comming soon also.

Thanks all
Take care
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Repo Man at 5:07 PM 7/27/2007



Who are you sending them to?



Post Title: Re: (repo man)
Posted by: mestizo at 11:12 AM 7/28/2007

Quote, originally posted by repo man »
Who are you sending them to?

Jon is out of town this weekend. He is sending one brace to Greg and the other I am not sure of.



Post Title: Re: (mestizo)
Posted by: 240z4u at 5:24 AM 7/30/2007



I am definitely in when the S14 ones become available. I wanted a power brace but dont have the time to install it. Price is a touch high for me to justify right now too.

Evan



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Posted by: AZhitman at 10:45 AM 8/3/2007



I just received one here at NICO HQ - It's pretty impressive, the welds are top-notch and the finish is really nice.

When someone takes the time to do a good job on something that's never going to be seen, and is gonna spend its life UNDER the front of a car, it tells me they've done their homework.

I think this is gonna be a nice alternative to the (overpriced) NISMO power brace.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: mestizo at 11:46 AM 8/3/2007



Yup you hit the nail right on the head Greg! Jon does great work and for the price it can't be beat!



Post Title: Re: (mestizo)
Posted by: DJButton at 10:11 AM 8/6/2007

I am immpressed with the looks of it, I want one!



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 4:29 PM 8/6/2007

Thanks for the kind words.
I sent you an e-mail reguarding special priceing for mods and admins.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: a_ahmed at 5:14 AM 8/7/2007

That looks awesome, but I just bought nismo power brace and yashio factory tension rod brace, i wonder if there are any further ways to improve chassis/front end rigidity... Awesome work, looks really nice



Post Title: Re: (a_ahmed)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 3:24 PM 8/7/2007

Sounds like you have a nice set up i wou
Quote, originally posted by a_ahmed »
That looks awesome, but I just bought nismo power brace and yashio factory tension rod brace, i wonder if there are any further ways to improve chassis/front end rigidity... Awesome work, looks really nice
ld look into fender braces...Nagisa, or Ultra racing....I am looking into these, but i am a ways off. I hear they make a ton of difference.



Post Title: Re: (a_ahmed)
Posted by: AZhitman at 3:29 PM 8/7/2007

Quote, originally posted by a_ahmed »
i wonder if there are any further ways to improve chassis/front end rigidity... Awesome work, looks really nice

Check out the other item here ni the Fabricators' Marketplace!

Between Jason and Jonnie, you can really stiffen up the front of an S13!!!



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: DJButton at 11:28 PM 8/7/2007



Man, I wish I has some money to play with, hopefully have some more work coming in soon. I will be ordering one from you at some point though!



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Posted by: AZhitman at 9:20 PM 8/10/2007

OK, I just installed mine - Took 15 minutes!!!!

That thing is STOUT, and it looks kickass.... Once you get it in there, you can see how floppy and flexible the front braces are without this piece.

Add a set of Suspension Techniques tension rod bushings (or some SPL tension rods) and you're SET!



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: mestizo at 10:36 PM 8/10/2007



Quote, originally posted by AZhitman »
OK, I just installed mine - Took 15 minutes!!!!

That thing is STOUT, and it looks kickass.... Once you get it in there, you can see how floppy and flexible the front braces are without this piece.

Add a set of Suspension Techniques tension rod bushings (or some SPL tension rods) and you're SET!

Have you had a chance to drive on it yet Greg? I know the first time I backed out of my driveway i could feel a difference. Turn in is way better and there is a lot less chassis flex/wieght transfer now.



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Posted by: Dano at 4:05 PM 8/11/2007



Yeah, I'm looking for better turn in, the front of the S14 feels pretty tight, but yet still feels sloppy, this is one of the missing pieces i'm sure.

I got to see Greg's bar this week unistalled and the quality is great, I can't wait to get one of my own! Looking forward to an S14 piece!

-Dan



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Posted by: NI5MO240 at 12:12 AM 8/14/2007



I just installed mine yesterday, what a difference from the cusco tension rod brace I had, top notch quality!



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Posted by: Fenvy at 12:42 AM 8/14/2007

I question whether if you can really call nismo's power brace being overpriced considering they can be had for about 120$ used

it's a 1 piece rigid design, more to my liking but I guess this is a nice economical alternative as well. Good job.



Post Title: Re: (Loveless)
Posted by: mestizo at 4:39 PM 8/14/2007



Trust me this thing is stiffer than the Nismo version and it's not even welded together.



Post Title: Re: (mestizo)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 6:56 PM 8/14/2007

Thanks for the kind words guys!
Greg you are right this would be a great time to replace those worn out TC bushings, or the whole rod for that matter. Mestizo is right about the turn in also. Some minor adjustments might be in order.




Post Title: Re: (mestizo)
Posted by: Fenvy at 8:54 PM 8/14/2007

Quote, originally posted by mestizo »
Trust me this thing is stiffer than the Nismo version and it's not even welded together.

it's these kind of unreliable claims that makes me wary

like I said, it is better than stock and cheaper than a nismo powerbrace but you can't make these irresponsible claims



Post Title: Re: (Loveless)
Posted by: DJButton at 9:07 PM 8/14/2007



Well I think he's just excited about the quality of it, I wouldn't be that concerned if I were you. If he has driven cars with both and this one feels firmer, then his claims are neither false nor irresponsible.



Post Title: Re: (DJButton)
Posted by: mestizo at 9:29 PM 8/14/2007

Quote, originally posted by DJButton »
Well I think he's just excited about the quality of it, I wouldn't be that concerned if I were you. If he has driven cars with both and this one feels firmer, then his claims are neither false nor irresponsible.

Thank you DJ, that is what I was trying to convey.

Irresponsible ehh? LOL! You can believe or think what you want about Jon's brace, I have personal experince with it. As well as several others who also can vouch for the quality and the fact that it does exactly what it was designed for. In my "opinion" it is stiffer than a Nismo and as a matter of "fact" it is cheaper. So I am sorry but in my world stiffer and cheaper is the winner.



Post Title: Re: (Loveless)
Posted by: datsun2401972 at 9:52 PM 8/14/2007



If your that concerned about "bolt on" being less rigid than the welded nismo brace, just grind off the coating along the edge of the blocks and pay a muffler shop to put a couple of 1 inch welds down either side of those blocks at the block/Tension rod mount interface.

You could do the same for the crossbar mounting plate on the inner sides of the tension rod mount. Hell you could take the bolts out after that....

Still cheaper than the nismo brace.

My only concern is the weight difference between the nismo brace and stock mounts with this brace kit installed. And is that difference worth the extra 60 to 80 bucks if the nismo brace is lighter?



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Posted by: Fenvy at 9:59 PM 8/14/2007



Your opinions of it being stiffer has no solid evident behind it. If you at least measure the diameter between the two than you can probably begin to say something. Right now. You're conveying a biased opinion which is why I said it was an irresponsible claim.

I can go on this all day but it's not fair to Johnny Fratz so I'll stop here. I won't be reading your response because I will be lured to respond.



Post Title: Re: (Loveless)
Posted by: mestizo at 10:57 PM 8/14/2007



Quote, originally posted by datsun2401972 »
If your that concerned about "bolt on" being less rigid than the welded nismo brace, just grind off the coating along the edge of the blocks and pay a muffler shop to put a couple of 1 inch welds down either side of those blocks at the block/Tension rod mount interface.

Exactly! Just weld it and your good. As for the weight of the bolt on version I can get some specs for you on Jon's brace as well as the Nismo since Jon has a Nismo brace.

Quote, originally posted by Loveless »
Your opinions of it being stiffer has no solid evident behind it. If you at least measure the diameter between the two than you can probably begin to say something. Right now. You're conveying a biased opinion which is why I said it was an irresponsible claim.

I can go on this all day but it's not fair to Johnny Fratz so I'll stop here. I won't be reading your response because I will be lured to respond.

Ok Im not trying to argue, but you seemed to start things off on a bad note with me.

If you want to go tit for tat we can. Your claims of Jon's brace not being more solid or "stiffer" are also "irresponsible" as you put it. That is if we go by your "biased" opinion. Considering you have no factual evidence of the Nismo bar being sitffer or more rigid than Jon's.

I am glad you can go all day like this... however I cannot. I was stating my opinion, which to me is a fact. Jon does great work and his brace's are top quality. I am here to vouch for him and not argue about which one is better as it is a moot point. Whatever is best for you is what you should buy.



Post Title: Re: (mestizo)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 5:12 PM 8/16/2007



You guys need not worry about Mestizo's abillity to test parts. He is one of my factory test pilots, and is a very key member of the Stealth custom fab Team. He has been involved in the design of all our parts, yes all. We are testing several other braces for S13, S14, and AE86's.
He has been involved in motorsports for longer than some members have been alive. If he states his opinion I take it as fact.
I do not knock the Nismo brace, it is a great product! It is a little pricey, but comes with new brackets. Shipping is way steep also.
Like others have stated The Stealth brace has big bang for little bucks, and that was what I was after.

Thanks
Jonnie



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Posted by: AZhitman at 5:59 PM 8/16/2007



If anyone's worried about the weight difference, I can tell you this:

Even if it DID matter, which it doesn't, your paint weighs more than either one of them.

Lots of people CLAIM to care about weight reduction, but they're the same people with heavy wheels, audio components, extra wiring, electric windows (or windows at all), sunroof, full interior.

Regardless, even if it is 10 lbs heavier (which it isn't, it's actually within a pound), it's still below the centerline of the axles, which means it's fairly irrelevant.

Guys, remember to look at this for what it is: An inexpensive fix for a terribly weak part of your suspension.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: datsun2401972 at 9:03 PM 8/16/2007



Quote, originally posted by AZhitman »
Regardless, even if it is 10 lbs heavier (which it isn't, it's actually within a pound), it's still below the centerline of the axles, which means it's fairly irrelevant.

Guys, remember to look at this for what it is: An inexpensive fix for a terribly weak part of your suspension.

Hell, if it's within a pound of the nismo brace I'd say it's an inexpensive fix for a terribly weak part of your suspension that meets or exceeds my expectations...



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Posted by: AZhitman at 9:05 PM 8/16/2007



^ LOL yep.

And by weak, I mean you can flex the factory tension arms BY HAND.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: MagikDragon at 9:09 PM 8/16/2007



Quote, originally posted by AZhitman »

Lots of people CLAIM to care about weight reduction, but they're the same people with heavy wheels, audio components, extra wiring, electric windows (or windows at all), sunroof, full interior.

HAHA Greg, I know that feeling all too well, This looks like a quality part and it is deffinatly something I will be picking up for my street car, when I'm not pissing away money on the race car...



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Posted by: Dano at 1:32 AM 8/17/2007



Send me an S14 piece when they're done and i'll be happy to write up a full review on it!

-Dan



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 9:10 PM 8/17/2007



Quote, originally posted by Dano »
Send me an S14 piece when they're done and i'll be happy to write up a full review on it!

-Dan

Dan,

I would love to...The problem is that the S14 brace is a PITA to install. The right way to do it would be to take off the existing brackets and drill one hole in each for the bolt on.

Here is a pic of the prototype bolted into my jig.

The thing is crazy stiff, but even a little more work to install than the Nismo.



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Posted by: Dano at 10:58 PM 8/17/2007



Hmm, is the s14 setup really that much different than the s13?

-Dan



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Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 11:01 AM 8/18/2007



Yep...The S14 does not have holes on the inside of the TC bracket, so they need to be drilled.


Some model years do not have the holes period.
If you realy want to do it let me know.



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Posted by: Dano at 3:15 PM 8/21/2007

Sorry, I was gone until last night so hadn't viewed your post. My '95 has the holes on one side and that setup uses the pre-existing t/c rod bushing bolt, so i'd only have to drill one hole in each side correct? That's nothing if that's the case, I know it's at an akward angle, but i'd rather give it hell for the sake of doing it on car.

I have a question though, what is that gold bracket for... power steering bracket or something ? Would you still be utilizing an anti-crush spacer in that area?

-Dan



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 5:33 PM 8/21/2007



Yes the gold bracket is power steering bracket. Yes I would be sending the anti-crush spacers.
If you are going to do it on the car I realy recomend dropping the sway bar to get to the TC nut to torque it correctly.

Thanks for the intrest
Jonnie



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Posted by: Dano at 7:46 PM 8/21/2007



That would work nicely since i'm planning on replacing the swaybar endlink bushings with poly here soon too. Lemme know when you have one complete and ready to test out.

-Dan



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: homeslicej2 at 6:21 AM 8/24/2007



This is great! I'm loving this fabricator's market so far. I'm going to go with your product instead of the NISMO one when budgeting allows. Looks great btw.



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Posted by: EW at 8:24 AM 8/25/2007

Looking forward to pricing on the S14 brace and development of S14 fender braces.



Post Title: Re: (EW)
Posted by: jgauspohl at 2:19 AM 8/27/2007

looks like you have the attention of another s14 owner...should you have an s14 one...I have cash ready...if not I'm buying a nismo and powdercoating my subframe to match before I put in my MMR subframe bushings (which are the **** btw)...I've got stances on the ride. If you have one in GOLD maybe?



Post Title: Re: (jgauspohl)
Posted by: Dano at 11:29 AM 8/27/2007

Quote, originally posted by jgauspohl »
looks like you have the attention of another s14 owner...should you have an s14 one...I have cash ready...if not I'm buying a nismo and powdercoating my subframe to match before I put in my MMR subframe bushings (which are the **** btw)...I've got stances on the ride. If you have one in GOLD maybe?

He's working on an S14 piece already, have some patience! I'm sure you could get it in raw/unpainted so when you get it you can paint/ powdercoat whatever the heck you want on it

-Dan



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: jgauspohl at 12:49 PM 8/28/2007



haha jk...well it seems I won't be driving the car for awhile anyway...I converted the rear of my car to z32 setup...and stance is out of the adapters which I paid for (because they were "supposedly" in stock)...but will be a couple weeks till they arrive. Definitely hit me up though whenever.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: 1unar3clipse at 1:43 PM 8/28/2007

Wow that setup looks nice, $90 for one of these kits?
When you start producing them for sales count me in.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: SAINTJ at 9:00 PM 8/28/2007

[QUOTE=Can you do one for a 94 Q45
julious.baker@gmail.com
zip code:27524
I would love to have one for my Q...thanks[/QUOTE]



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (SAINTJ)
Posted by: mestizo at 11:13 PM 8/28/2007

LOL it's funny you ask cuz Jon may be prototyping a Q45 brace this weekend.



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Posted by: AZhitman at 11:29 PM 8/28/2007

I found an awesome additional use for mine: It now serves as the front mounting point for my skid plate.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: homeslicej2 at 6:37 AM 8/29/2007

Quote, originally posted by AZhitman »
I found an awesome additional use for mine: It now serves as the front mounting point for my skid plate.
Pics of said skid plate attached and price for skid plate? Btw I got my NICOclub cards to pass out/place on windshields



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Posted by: AZhitman at 9:20 PM 8/29/2007

Cost: $2 scrap steel.

Pics: Maybe - Nothing pretty, just a rectangular plate attached to the subframe and curving up over the tension arm brace...



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: homeslicej2 at 7:15 AM 8/30/2007



Pics, pics, pics, pics . Sounds like a good deal for a skid plate considering what some people/companies want.



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Posted by: turbo2nr at 3:18 PM 9/1/2007

+2 i will deffanitly pick one up... i was in the market to buy one soon, if its available by winter i will deffinatly pick one up.

thanks



Post Title: Re: (turbo2nr)
Posted by: grmreapr at 11:37 PM 9/1/2007



hm might have to go with this for my s13 hopefully monday



Post Title: Re: (grmreapr)
Posted by: eazye2000 at 10:59 PM 9/3/2007

Dang, now I see this when it's too late! Story of my life...

I welded plates onto the bottom of those brackets trying to stiffen them up. I'll have to go look to see if I could slip the Anti-Crush brackets in there.

...it's a sad day for me



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: 1unar3clipse at 9:45 AM 9/4/2007



Alright so I have the cash ready, I want to try one of these out but how do I contact Jonnie?



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (1unar3clipse)
Posted by: mestizo at 4:08 PM 9/4/2007

Check Jon's profile on here, his e mail address is in there.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (mestizo)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 8:21 PM 9/5/2007

Feel free to E-mail me about price and avalibility pjshobby@aol.com, or you can reply in this thread...I am on at least once a day.
Thanks

Jonnie

(side note)
Almost time to change the Sig...lol



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Florida240sx at 10:32 PM 9/5/2007



I want one after next weekend when I get back from Nopi. OR are you coming to nopi?



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: mestizo at 4:12 PM 9/6/2007

Quote, originally posted by Jonnie Fraz »

(side note)
Almost time to change the Sig...lol

Indeed... hopefully if all goes well she will be rolling friday evening.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (mestizo)
Posted by: driftmyke at 12:20 PM 9/10/2007



hey johnnie im local and im very interested in picking one of these up from you. could you email me you adresse and phone number so i can get in contact with you and arange a pick up. thanks my email is pimp16s@hotmail.com



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (driftmyke)
Posted by: krazydriver at 4:35 AM 9/19/2007

Jon, i'd emailed you awhile back about getting one of the s13 braces. At the time you didn't have any available.
If you've got any now please let me know.

thanks.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 3:33 PM 9/19/2007



Whenever you get the S14 brace ready I have money in hand, make sure you post up, I was planning on building my own because the Nismo is so spendy, but with the thought youve put into that thing, I would rather just buy it

Quote, originally posted by AZhitman »
I found an awesome additional use for mine: It now serves as the front mounting point for my skid plate.

wow I didnt really think anyone else on here was running a skid plate





Post Title: Re: (SideWays=smiles)
Posted by: HeavyPork at 9:24 PM 9/19/2007



Yeah i second that thought on the s14 brace. I'd much rather have one these, even if they are still a PITA to install. Especially at that price. Let us know when the s14 is ready.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: 1unar3clipse at 5:10 PM 9/20/2007

Mine just came in, And I gotta say this thing is tough and it even came painted black already so all I gotta do is put it in.
Thanks Jonnie!



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Posted by: gumby74 at 7:45 PM 9/20/2007

I did not realize this had been up for this long. If you have a brace available for an S-13, I would be glad to take it off your hands.

If you could e-mail me the price shipped to 78242 and your Pay-Pal info we can do this as soon as possible.
chaple74@yahoo.com
thenx...



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Posted by: Dano at 2:50 PM 10/1/2007



Any new news on S14 pieces?



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: krazydriver at 5:13 AM 10/2/2007

Jonnie,
got the brace in.
Thanks for the quick shipping.

To everyone interested.. the difference this made in my s13 is ridiculous. I already have front and rear strut bars, this brace REALLY tightened up the steering. Now i just need a better sway bar for the back + coils and my suspension is set



Post Title: Re: (krazydriver)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 5:16 PM 10/3/2007



Quote, originally posted by krazydriver »
Jonnie,
got the brace in.
Thanks for the quick shipping.

To everyone interested.. the difference this made in my s13 is ridiculous. I already have front and rear strut bars, this brace REALLY tightened up the steering. Now i just need a better sway bar for the back + coils and my suspension is set


Awesome!!!...Thanks for the review! I am glad you like it!



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Slappy at 10:07 PM 10/4/2007

Quote, originally posted by Jonnie Fraz »
Ok boys and girls...I have been working on this for a while, and I have had some great success with this bolt in kit. Basicly I designed this as an alternative to the Nismo Power Brace. Nismo makes a great product, but I thought there was room for improvement.
With my kit it is not nessasary to to take out all front end to install the brace. It bolts in using existing holes in the brackets, this allows for quick install, and not having the need to realign your car...although it is probilly a good Idea.
The kit includes a cross brace, anti crush spacers, sandwich plates, all grade 8 hardware, and a vial of red loctite to keep it all together.
Here is a pic of the parts and the tools required to install.

I sell the whole kit for $90.00 plus shipping
Being that I am one guy fabbing these please contact me for availbility.
I take Paypal for payment.

Installed pics

Any questions feel free to ask away.
Thanks
Jonnie

I am very impressed with this product. If i didnt all ready have my chassis dialed in with the parts i have , i would definitely buy this from you.



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Posted by: gumby74 at 12:43 PM 10/6/2007



I received this bad boy yesterday. If not for one of my arms being banged up a little the install would not have taken more than 10minutes.
Great product, good seller. Thanks Jonnie.



Post Title: Re: (AZhitman)
Posted by: hai1206vn at 9:23 PM 10/13/2007

Quote, originally posted by AZhitman »
I found an awesome additional use for mine: It now serves as the front mounting point for my skid plate.

in addition to protecting the oil pan, it might have some ground effect too. I'll add that to mine



Post Title: Re: order
Posted by: reza at 4:41 PM 10/16/2007

I sent you email yesterday.. Let me know when you are shipping...thanks.



Post Title: Re: order (reza)
Posted by: pdqwrx at 12:53 AM 10/24/2007

Hello- Anybody in here? Are these still available?

Thanks
Scott



Post Title: Re: order (pdqwrx)
Posted by: iitywygms at 6:45 PM 10/25/2007



Quote, originally posted by pdqwrx »
Hello- Anybody in here? Are these still available?

Thanks
Scott

I will buy one is December for sure, if they are still available.




Post Title: Re: order (pdqwrx)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 3:06 PM 10/26/2007



Quote, originally posted by pdqwrx »
Hello- Anybody in here? Are these still available?

Thanks
Scott

Scott,

Yes I am still building them, but as of right now I am out of stock. I have a massive order in with my laser cutter so I can get these back in stock and out to you guys.

Thanks for the interest
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: order (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: rotorimp at 4:39 AM 10/30/2007



Jonnie

We have a plasma cam. If your having a problem getting your parts in a timely manner we could help you out. I checked out Greg's (Hitman) before he installed it and I think we could handle your stuff. The plasma is how we make our strut tie bar feet.

check out our website

http://www.manvsmetal.com/



Post Title: Re: order (rotorimp)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 11:49 AM 11/4/2007



Quote, originally posted by rotorimp »
Jonnie

We have a plasma cam. If your having a problem getting your parts in a timely manner we could help you out. I checked out Greg's (Hitman) before he installed it and I think we could handle your stuff. The plasma is how we make our strut tie bar feet.

check out our website

http://www.manvsmetal.com/

Thanks so much for the offer...I kinda have a crazy hookup with my laser cutter though.

I now have these back in stock...I am taking a break from fabracating to give you guys the heads up.
I will be sending out e-mails here soon to cover all those who were waiting for me to get these back in stock.
You can contact me here or my e-mail is pjshobby@aol.com.

Thanks
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: order (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: theokos at 4:40 PM 11/13/2007



I'll be picking up my newest vert next week and would like to really stiffen the fron suspension and this really seems like a good product. If you have one available I'd love to pick one up.

Let me know if you have them in stock either by posting here or email daveoko@aol.com



Post Title: Re: order (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: axis at 9:50 AM 11/15/2007



Still have these in stock? How do I place my order?



Post Title: Re: order (axis)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 9:25 PM 11/15/2007

Quote, originally posted by axis »
Still have these in stock? How do I place my order?

Yes I still have some in stock...best way to place order right now is e-mail me at pjshobby@aol.com.
Please include your user name and your zip code( for acurate shipping quote).

Thanks
Take care
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: order (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: axis at 8:44 PM 11/16/2007



Thanks. Email (re)sent!



Post Title: Re: order (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: iitywygms at 8:43 PM 11/17/2007

Money sent. Can't wait!



Post Title: Re: order (iitywygms)
Posted by: hai1206vn at 5:13 PM 11/18/2007

just installed the bar yesterday and drove around today. It felt great. A lot of the play in steering is now gone, hence turn in is faster. My suspension's all stock but the difference is quite noticeable. There's also less wiggly movement when it goes over bumps.

Thanks Jonnie for a great product.

Installation note: when the front wheels are off the ground, the front sway bar moves forward and might interfere with the tension arm brace (like 1-2mm of clearance). Jacking the wheels up a bit might help. Best way is to drive the car up a pit, or use those autozone plastic ramps, so all suspension components stay where they should.



Post Title:
Posted by: Dano at 9:56 PM 11/18/2007



Any updates on the S14 piece? Still totally interested!



Post Title: Re: order (axis)
Posted by: iitywygms at 4:54 PM 11/20/2007

Got it today. Looks great!
Thank you!



Post Title: Re: order (iitywygms)
Posted by: jared36 at 1:21 PM 11/29/2007

Email sent



Post Title: Re: order (jared36)
Posted by: coupe240sxguy at 9:28 PM 12/1/2007

any thoughts on group buys... just a thought



Post Title: Re: order (coupe240sxguy)
Posted by: Nacho_240 at 7:29 PM 12/4/2007

Wow! Nothing but good reviews. I sent you an email.



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: kouki munster at 12:56 PM 12/8/2007

Quote, originally posted by Dano »
Any updates on the S14 piece? Still totally interested!

I guess there is still no love for the s14.

Put my name on the list of s14 owners that have the cash for one burning a hole in their pockt.



Post Title: Re: (Beatupsx)
Posted by: Nacho_240 at 1:18 AM 12/9/2007



payment sent!



Post Title: Re: (Beatupsx)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 6:07 PM 12/9/2007

Quote, originally posted by Beatupsx »

I guess there is still no love for the s14.

Put my name on the list of s14 owners that have the cash for one burning a hole in their pockt.

3rd



Post Title: Re: (SideWays=smiles)
Posted by: coupe240sxguy at 12:45 AM 12/13/2007



group buys??




Post Title: Re: (coupe240sxguy)
Posted by: jrivera at 7:11 AM 12/13/2007

For the price, how much of a group buy do you want? It's one hell of a price as it stands...

My two buddies use them and love them.

Great product!



Post Title: Re: (Nacho_240)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 7:40 PM 12/13/2007



Quote, originally posted by Nacho_240 »
payment sent!

It's on the way buddy!

Thanks for the complements guys. I have had some great reviews with this product...Truly I have trouble building enough of them...lol.
If you guys did not love them I really could not sell them. This is kinda one of the problems that I have with the S14 one...Not that I do not think it works...I know it does. I just know how much trouble it is to install.
I will probilly do a small production run of these, but I will have to run it by Greg to find out what will be required to bring in a new product.
Thanks guys it realy means allot to me that you like my work.

Happy Holidays to all
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 8:13 PM 12/13/2007



If the price is right, and the performance is there, Im willing to deal with a difficult install.



Post Title: Re: (SideWays=smiles)
Posted by: mestizo at 8:54 PM 12/13/2007

Jon wants that S14 brace to be as easy to install as the S13 brace. So that is one of the reasons it has not been made into a production peice. However in my opinion it is ready for the public now. But that's how Jon is with his parts if they don't meet all of his personal criteria I.E. function, form, quality, price and ease of install then he isn't satisified. I think that with some convincing from me and others on here we can get them into production.



Post Title: Re: (mestizo)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 11:23 PM 12/16/2007

Quote, originally posted by mestizo »
Jon wants that S14 brace to be as easy to install as the S13 brace. So that is one of the reasons it has not been made into a production peice. However in my opinion it is ready for the public now. But that's how Jon is with his parts if they don't meet all of his personal criteria I.E. function, form, quality, price and ease of install then he isn't satisified. I think that with some convincing from me and others on here we can get them into production.

I can respect that. Maybe we could convince him to do a pre production run of the S14 parts, that way a few of us wrench monkeys can install it and do a private review, maybe an extra set of eyes and fingers will help make the final product better. Kind of like a Beta version for computer software. These are just my thoughts, in the end it is up to Jon. Im just trying to be crafty so I can get my hands on one before anyone else.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: shift_sideways at 4:00 AM 12/17/2007



hey if you have any interest in making this for a Z32 i have one and am here in sac just bring an S13 and S14 brace and see what the differences are...

or when i get it running by next week then i can come out to you..



Post Title:
Posted by: Sky80 at 2:16 AM 12/22/2007



got any in stock right now? and are these still being painted, or powder coated? any chance of getting one not painted/coated?



Post Title: Re: (Sky80)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 11:59 AM 12/22/2007

Quote, originally posted by Sky80 »
got any in stock right now? and are these still being painted, or powder coated? any chance of getting one not painted/coated?

Send me an e-mail and we can talk about it.
pjshobby@aol.com

Thanks
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: jared36 at 12:21 AM 12/30/2007



I finally got a warm day last week to put mine on and it was quick, easy and I love how the car feels now. Its definitely more solid feeling in the steering. A+ on this product!



Post Title: Re: (jared36)
Posted by: Nacho_240 at 1:52 AM 12/31/2007

I installed mine today after work and I love the stiffness of the front. The hardest part of the installation was straightening my tension arm to fit the crush spacer bc the previous owner bent it and lining up the screws for the power steering (atleast I think that's what it was) attached to the arm and power brace. Great product overall. It was nice doing business with you Jonnie.

Ignacio



Post Title: Re: (Nacho_240)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 10:00 AM 1/1/2008



Great! I am so glad that you guys love them. As long as there is a need I will keep building them.
For all the S14 guys I have ordered parts so I can do a small production run of the S14 brace. There have been several people hard on me about getting these things going...lol. Danno you will definitly be on the list.

Thanks so much for the feedback
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 8:32 AM 1/2/2008



Quote, originally posted by Jonnie Fraz »
Great! I am so glad that you guys love them. As long as there is a need I will keep building them.
For all the S14 guys I have ordered parts so I can do a small production run of the S14 brace. There have been several people hard on me about getting these things going...lol. Danno you will definitly be on the list.

Thanks so much for the feedback
Jonnie

Is there any way I can get on that list. I have all the tools needed to install, I really want to be part of the test run. Cash in hand.



Post Title: Re: (SideWays=smiles)
Posted by: kouki munster at 2:20 PM 1/2/2008



I got the cash burning a hole in my pocket for the s14 brace, let me know when they are ready.



Post Title: Re: (Beatupsx)
Posted by: Ninetyfive240sxSE at 5:09 AM 1/3/2008

Pls add me to the list as well for the s14. Hope you make it before the autox season starts!



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: MoldyOldy240 at 12:01 AM 1/9/2008

This may sound like a stupid question BUT

Can this product be added to the NISMO power brace?



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Dano at 1:51 PM 1/11/2008



Quote, originally posted by Jonnie Fraz »
Great! I am so glad that you guys love them. As long as there is a need I will keep building them.
For all the S14 guys I have ordered parts so I can do a small production run of the S14 brace. There have been several people hard on me about getting these things going...lol. Danno you will definitly be on the list.

Thanks so much for the feedback
Jonnie

Yay! I'm so excited!



Post Title: Re: (MoldyOldy240)
Posted by: Chris28 at 5:36 PM 1/13/2008



Quote, originally posted by MoldyOldy240 »
This may sound like a stupid question BUT

Can this product be added to the NISMO power brace?

I'm almost positive that'd be a no. It goes exactly where the power brace goes, not to mention it does the exact same job as the nismo unit. Jonnie, these look great. Hopefully when I get some cash this will be the final touch to my front end.



Post Title: Re: (Chris28)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 9:57 AM 1/20/2008



Quote, originally posted by Chris28 »

I'm almost positive that'd be a no. It goes exactly where the power brace goes, not to mention it does the exact same job as the nismo unit. Jonnie, these look great. Hopefully when I get some cash this will be the final touch to my front end.


Chris you are right. If you have a Nismo than you are set. It is a great product. My goal was to design something to give the same results as the Nismo and not cost quite as much.
Ok for all you S14 junkies... I have some good news.

This is the first of the version 3.0 S14 brace right out of the jig. This will still require you to drill your tension arm brackets to install it. I cut back the rear mounting tabs so the power steering bracket does not have to be bolted through the brace.

This first production run is pretty much spoken for. I wanted to do a small production run to make sure everything works before building a bunch.

Thanks guys
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: a_ahmed at 10:04 AM 1/20/2008



Maan you need to make more types of braces which work like that... for s13.. and s14 (i have s13)... like the frames... rear... whatever else there might be... that'll be hot... subarus have lots of these fancy undercar braces we need some too :P



Post Title:
Posted by: Dano at 3:51 PM 1/20/2008

Yay!!!



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: mestizo at 6:22 PM 1/20/2008

Quote, originally posted by Dano »
Yay!!!

LOL I knew your thoughts on a production S14 brace would be as such.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: kouki munster at 6:52 PM 1/20/2008



So when can I get my grubby little hands on one?



Post Title: Re: (mestizo)
Posted by: Dano at 10:04 PM 1/21/2008

Quote, originally posted by mestizo »

LOL I knew your thoughts on a production S14 brace would be as such.

Haha, well then you know me well! ....maybe toooo well.

I'm excited, what can I say?



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 8:12 PM 1/25/2008



Dan,

Go ahead and shoot me an e-mail, so we can talk about getting you your brace. jonnie@stealth-custom-fab.com
Thanks




Post Title:
Posted by: Dano at 10:34 AM 1/26/2008



On the way.



Post Title:
Posted by: float_6969 at 8:48 PM 1/30/2008

I've got a 1995 S14 as well. I'm interested too so let me know how this is going.



Post Title: Re: (float_6969)
Posted by: d3vilskid at 11:07 AM 2/3/2008

tell use how it goes with the s14 brace. Mite perchase one if easy to do and not take much time since this is my only dd



Post Title:
Posted by: Dano at 7:34 PM 2/3/2008

/\/\ Mine's my daily driver as well. For the good mods, some time and effort has to be put in...



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: d3vilskid at 9:22 PM 2/3/2008

yea tru, dont forget to take pic of it after the install



Post Title:
Posted by: GCM240JZ at 8:50 PM 2/11/2008

Are you planning on doing any other types of braces for the S13? I got one of your S13 braces via another member on this site who parted out his car and must admit they are a great addition to my car. Would love to see some new innovative parts from you in the future. Definitely got me down as a future buyer.



Post Title: Re: (GCM240JZ)
Posted by: d3vilskid at 9:58 PM 2/11/2008

if im not mistaken tanabe makes a rear brace for the 240sx, I know its not a big improvement to handling for the car, but would be nice if you did made one to compliment the front.



Post Title: Re: (d3vilskid)
Posted by: a_ahmed at 8:51 AM 2/12/2008

http://www.flyinmiata.com/inde...90-97

390$ for a full underbody butterfly brace hehe... make it



Post Title: Re: (a_ahmed)
Posted by: d3vilskid at 11:42 AM 2/12/2008



that is nice and would be nice to have



Post Title:
Posted by: Dano at 1:45 PM 2/12/2008

I can't wait for some warmer weather and time to install this!!!!!!!! Thanks for catering to S14 owners Jonnie!!!!!!

Close up of the welds:




Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 7:19 PM 2/12/2008



Quote, originally posted by Dano »
I can't wait for some warmer weather and time to install this!!!!!!!! Thanks for catering to S14 owners Jonnie!!!!!!

Close up of the welds:

You're tacky and I hate you. (angry jealous voice)

I want one I want one I want one I want one. (spoiled six year old voice)



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: kouki munster at 7:25 PM 2/12/2008



So what do I have to do to get one?



Post Title: Re: (Beatupsx)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 7:56 PM 2/12/2008

Quote, originally posted by Beatupsx »
So what do I have to do to get one?

Get in line.



Post Title:
Posted by: float_6969 at 8:42 PM 2/12/2008



Luck bastid. I need to get my S14 on the road and come up there and steal that from you!



Post Title: Re: (a_ahmed)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 9:32 PM 2/15/2008

Quote, originally posted by a_ahmed »
http://www.flyinmiata.com/inde...90-97

390$ for a full underbody butterfly brace hehe... make it

I love that brace! I have no Idea how they do it for under $400.00 though.
I do have a rear strut tower bar that has just been released.


These will sell for $70.00-$75.00 I am thinking.
Let me know what you guys think.
Jonnie



Post Title:
Posted by: float_6969 at 9:15 AM 2/16/2008



I like that it's not a threaded/adjustable. Much more strength in your design.

Seems like fair price. Is it painted or powdercoated? You might look into either purchasing, or working out something locally for powdercoating. Personally I would be more apt to pay more for a powdercoated piece.



Post Title: Re: (float_6969)
Posted by: mestizo at 10:31 AM 2/16/2008



Most of Jon's parts are painted, simply because the cost of the powder coating in this area is a bit expensive. Even if you have multiple parts to coat they still dont cut you a really good deal, which would make the cost of the part go up considerably. However I think Jon will still powder coat individual parts that you order if you pay for the extra for it.



Post Title: Re: (mestizo)
Posted by: Nacho_240 at 11:34 AM 2/16/2008

Holy sh*t That thing looks massive! I'm actually rockin a custom fabricated rear strut bar right now, but it's weaksauce, easily bendable. If that'll fit my s13 hatch, I'll be glad to be the first to try it. Please send final price w/ shipping to Anaheim 92801. acousticnacho22@yahoo.com

Your tension arm brace made a dynamic change to my cars turning. Very little body roll now. Thx.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: AE240SX at 2:14 PM 2/17/2008



I've been following this thread since the beginning and I am very excited about the S-14 brace. Do you have to remove subframe to install? I love my 240 but its a bit of a flexy flyer. Oh, and the price will be right I'm sure. Keep me informed @ johnnyblack5@yahoo.com



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (AE240SX)
Posted by: Ninetyfive240sxSE at 7:08 AM 2/21/2008

is the s14 tension arm brace available already? I want to get 1 now ASAP!



Post Title:
Posted by: gumby74 at 8:39 PM 2/21/2008

If that strut bar is for an S13, where do I sign up?
Total cost after shipping and availability to: chaple74@yahoo.com
thenx...



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (AE240SX)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 4:51 PM 2/24/2008

Quote, originally posted by AE240SX »
I've been following this thread since the beginning and I am very excited about the S-14 brace. Do you have to remove subframe to install? I love my 240 but its a bit of a flexy flyer. Oh, and the price will be right I'm sure. Keep me informed @ johnnyblack5@yahoo.com

On the S14 brace you do not have to remove the subframe to install. I do recomend that you remove the tension arm brackets to do it. It is possable to do it with them in the car, but an incredible PITA to do it.
Price on the S14 unit will be around $100.00 plus shipping. I am contacting some of the members who were key in pushing me to get these done. Ian check your e-mail.
The rear strut bar is for an S13. I am in early production process for these.

Thanks for the interest
Jonnie

Modified by Jonnie Fraz at 5:39 PM 2/24/2008



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 5:38 PM 2/24/2008



^^ It sounds to me like you are getting ready to start selling to the public, I want one so bad.





Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (SideWays=smiles)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 6:49 PM 2/24/2008



Quote, originally posted by SideWays=smiles »
^^ It sounds to me like you are getting ready to start selling to the public, I want one so bad.


Did you check your e-mail?



Post Title:
Posted by: Dano at 8:19 PM 2/24/2008

I'm just waiting on some warmer (and dry) weather on one of my days off to install. Hopefully won't be long at all as the excitment is building. I even have it in the middle of my floor to step over each day to make it worse that it's not on yet!



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: Warped161 at 9:15 PM 2/24/2008

this is prob a stupid question but the s13 brace wouldn't interfere with the under body plate's that 94_240 made right? http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...age=5

p.s. that rear strut bar is siiiick



Post Title: Re: (Warped161)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 11:33 PM 2/24/2008



Quote, originally posted by Warped161 »
this is prob a stupid question but the s13 brace wouldn't interfere with the under body plate's that 94_240 made right? http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...age=5

p.s. that rear strut bar is siiiick

The only stupid question is the one not asked. The answer is no it will not interfere, because if I am right I see the bolts to one of my braces in the pics.
Thanks I kinda like the strut tower bar also...I need to get in touch with Greg to see what I have to do to start selling these.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: reyes1212 at 10:03 PM 2/27/2008



Look into getting some for us Nissan Versa peeps, please.
;p



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: epokh at 11:37 PM 2/28/2008

Looks like some good stuff ya got goin' on there! Do you have any of the S13 tension arm braces ready to ship right now? If so, shoot me a total to 64850(MO), I'll send payment ASAP!

Thanks,
-James
epokh@netzero.com



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (epokh)
Posted by: epokh at 12:26 PM 3/3/2008



Payment sent!
Thanks!



Post Title:
Posted by: Dano at 10:28 AM 3/4/2008

Bump because these things are so cool!



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 8:15 PM 3/4/2008

Quote, originally posted by Dano »
Bump because these things are so cool!

No doubt, Jonnie has my money, Im just waiting now.



Post Title: Re: (SideWays=smiles)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 3:16 PM 3/5/2008



Quote, originally posted by SideWays=smiles »

No doubt, Jonnie has my money, Im just waiting now.

Thanks guys! Some Gangster products are on the way. Some new stuff comming, I just cleared it with Greg...Woot



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Dano at 7:15 PM 3/5/2008



Quote, originally posted by Jonnie Fraz »

Thanks guys! Some Gangster products are on the way. Some new stuff comming, I just cleared it with Greg...Woot

w00t!



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 8:01 PM 3/5/2008



Quote, originally posted by Jonnie Fraz »

Thanks guys! Some Gangster products are on the way. Some new stuff comming, I just cleared it with Greg...Woot

Quote, originally posted by Dano »

w00t!

I give a big 3rd to that, w00t!!.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: hai1206vn at 12:50 AM 3/8/2008



That s13 rear bar is beautiful. Good work Jonnie. I loved the tension arm brace I bought from you (but i don't have that car anymore)

If someday you decide to weld a rear strut bar for s14, I know a lot of people looking for one that is sturdy. There are a lot of ebay style rear bars that go over the rear speaker deck, but they seem really wimpy and don't add any rigidity.



Post Title: Re: (hai1206vn)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 9:05 PM 3/12/2008



Well I got started installing my S14 brace tonight, it fits beautifully so far. My stock tension rod bushings are seized, so Im going to bring them into work tomorrow so I can torch them out, I should finish the install tomorrow. Also, boredom took hold of me so I decided to repaint it using a can of Ford Implement blue I had laying around. Here are a few teaser pix, I should finish my write up on Friday.

Here I have it test fitted so I can mark for the other set of holes.

Here is my buddy Cale posing for a picture, the new paint matches his shirt.





Post Title: Re: (SideWays=smiles)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 1:32 PM 3/14/2008



w00t, my brace is all installed, along with my new tension rods, the change is impressive. The amount of perceptible rigidity gained is awesome. The install went flawlessly, everything fit, and I had no issues lining things up.

Ive spent a lot of time around caged race cars and the like. I can easily say, that as far as chassis bracing goes, besides a full roll cage, this is one of the best bang for the buck pieces I have ever installed. The level of finite control is increased without drastically effecting road noise or ride quality.

Im mean this in a totally heterosexual way, Jonnie, where have you been all my life?

I took over one hundred pictures and Ive gotten started on a my install write up. Its going to be very technical, I plan on hitting as many details as possible. You guys can watch for it in a few days, I will post up a link in here.

Oh wth, here are a few more teaser pix.

The blue paint serves two purposes, it looks bitchin, and it also helps it stand out, making the pictures more helpful for instructional purposes.

Ide like to hear a big Nico hoo-rah for Jonnie, without him, none of this would have come to fruition.



Post Title: Re: (SideWays=smiles)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 3:55 PM 3/14/2008



Awesome!Man that blue looks killer! I am glad all went well, I made a couple of changes from the last prototype and it looks like it was for the better.
I look forward to your writeup!

Take care
Jonnie



Post Title:
Posted by: float_6969 at 6:45 AM 3/15/2008



So are these officially for sale now? What other products for the S14 do you offer? FSTB? RSTB?

I just sold my S13 and I'm spending all of the money on suspension for the S14.



Post Title: Re: (SideWays=smiles)
Posted by: Dano at 8:58 PM 3/15/2008



Quote, originally posted by SideWays=smiles »

Here is my buddy Cale posing for a picture, the new paint matches his shirt.

I see your Ford Blue tractor bar.... and raise you a flourescent green bar that has been nicknamed the TMNTB (Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle Bar.)





Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: race4fox at 5:30 PM 3/16/2008



Hey man whats the down time for an arm brace for an S13 and a shipping quote to 62930?
Thanks



Post Title:
Posted by: float_6969 at 11:24 AM 3/17/2008

No installed pics Dano?



Post Title: Re: (float_6969)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 6:02 PM 3/17/2008

Quote, originally posted by float_6969 »
No installed pics Dano?

My write up is almost done, I slacked all weekend, here are some of my pictures of the brace installed.

Thats all for now, if I keep posting pictures, there wont be anything new in the write up.



Post Title: Re: (float_6969)
Posted by: Dano at 6:43 PM 3/17/2008



Quote, originally posted by float_6969 »
No installed pics Dano?

Not yet, with being sick with something worse than strep all last week and the work schedule, just haven't had the time, but progress was made and i'm well now AND hopefully *crosses fingers* the last snow is long gone so soon. Hell, come down on saturday and we'll throw it on.



Post Title: h
Posted by: Ninetyfive240sxSE at 5:29 PM 3/23/2008



Oks I got my s14 brace in the mail yesterday and as I said I'll install them hehehe...


plus

tools,

I just put the car up. I was gonna remove the two piece, but too many bolts to remove and plus I have to take off the sway bar. So I decided to work under the car since there is some room. Measured where to drill and cross fingers.

Tighten bolts

Finished installed





Post Title: Re: h (Ninetyfive240sxSE)
Posted by: jrivera at 11:43 AM 3/24/2008



My buddy Nathan had some frame damage on his lower radiator support. With the brace installed, he was able to tell right away how bad the damage affected his handling. A night and day difference. It makes the car feel very solid.

I have it on my car too. I love it. Was a pain to install though.



Post Title: Re: h (jrivera)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 5:54 PM 3/24/2008



I have finshed the rough draft of my install write up, if a few of you guys could take a couple of minutes to check it out and give me some feedback that would be great, its temporarily posted in the test section. Once I feel Ive worked out all the bugs, I will move it to a more accessible location.

Tension arm brace install write up, rough draft.



Post Title: Re: h (SideWays=smiles)
Posted by: d3vilskid at 6:43 PM 3/28/2008



Damn I really want one of those for the s14, only problem is I need new tension control arms, its kinda bent.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Kalypso at 9:43 PM 4/2/2008

This thread is the bomb... and yes I need one....
but not yet

what is the price shipped to GA 31405

this is a smart investment

Modified by Kalypso123 at 4:42 AM 4/3/2008



Post Title: Re: (Kalypso123)
Posted by: ser20det at 12:33 AM 4/12/2008



Can we put oem under cover panel with the s13 Brace ?

I hope too !

thank'S



Post Title: Re: (ser20det)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 10:01 AM 4/12/2008



I belive the OEM cover will fit as it bolts to the tension control arm brackets, and my brace does not hang lower than the brackets.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 5:42 PM 4/12/2008

Quote, originally posted by ser20det »
Can we put oem under cover panel with the s13 Brace ?

I hope too !

thank'S

I have all the splash shields on my S14, I dont see why the S13 would be any different.



Post Title:
Posted by: dualn1exhaust at 11:57 AM 4/26/2008



Still available for S13? Shipping to 94545.



Post Title:
Posted by: Dano at 2:39 PM 4/28/2008

Brace is installed along with new SPL steering rack bushings. Waiting on a new balljoint and hub/bearing to be back in business though.



Post Title:
Posted by: Dano at 4:32 PM 5/9/2008

I love this thing, i've been in business since 4/29 and love it. At first I was unsure what I thought about it, I adjusted tire pressures and made a few driving adjustments and I love it. I stronly believe that one should compliment this brace with some aftermarket sway bars to fully benefit from this brace but it's awesome. Steering input is more direct, more precise, but my realization is amplified from the SPL Parts steering rack bushings I installed at the same time, however you can still feel a difference not had by the bushings themselves. It wants to push (understeer) more after initial turn in/ mid corner on tighter/fast corners but I attribute that to my stock sways. All in all this brace is great the benefits are great, especially when you figure price vs. performance.

I highly reccomend this prouduct! Two thumbs up and a big thanks to Johnnie for making these!!!



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 11:52 AM 5/10/2008



Quote, originally posted by Dano »
I love this thing, i've been in business since 4/29 and love it. At first I was unsure what I thought about it, I adjusted tire pressures and made a few driving adjustments and I love it. I stronly believe that one should compliment this brace with some aftermarket sway bars to fully benefit from this brace but it's awesome. Steering input is more direct, more precise, but my realization is amplified from the SPL Parts steering rack bushings I installed at the same time, however you can still feel a difference not had by the bushings themselves. It wants to push (understeer) more after initial turn in/ mid corner on tighter/fast corners but I attribute that to my stock sways. All in all this brace is great the benefits are great, especially when you figure price vs. performance.

I highly reccomend this prouduct! Two thumbs up and a big thanks to Johnnie for making these!!!

Danno,

Wow! Thanks a bunch for the complements. Also thanks for pushing me to build these.
I am so glad that they help so much. I tottaly agree that aftermarket sways will be an added plus. Also you installed new TC rods yes? Aftermarket TC rods or at least new bushings when you do this will a major plus.

Thanks
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Dano at 12:15 PM 5/11/2008



Quote, originally posted by Jonnie Fraz »

Danno,

Wow! Thanks a bunch for the complements. Also thanks for pushing me to build these.
I am so glad that they help so much. I tottaly agree that aftermarket sways will be an added plus. Also you installed new TC rods yes? Aftermarket TC rods or at least new bushings when you do this will a major plus.

Thanks
Jonnie

Yep, SPL v2 tension rods, alum. sub frame collars, OE SE rear sway with poly endlink bushings front and rear, Cusco RUCAs/ STB, KYB AGX/ Sprint springs, etc. I know I need bigger sways.





Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 7:22 PM 5/12/2008



Before you go to bigger sways, look at solid end links for you sway bars. Even though you have upgraded with poly the solid (heim joint) endlinks can make the bars feel stiffer. I have heard as much as 5%. This also allows you to dial out any imperfections in the bars, side to side.

Just a thought.



Post Title:
Posted by: Dano at 1:18 PM 5/13/2008



Already looked into those, but I'm also running 245 tires fr and rr and with everything else i've got done, you can feel the oem sways quickly becoming overworked. I appreciate the input and suggestions though!!



Post Title: Re: (Dano)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 9:24 PM 5/20/2008

Thread dropped to archive, I thought I would bump it back to recent. How are things going Jonnie, making any headway on new parts for the S14?



Post Title: Re: (FlatBlackIan)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 10:44 AM 5/22/2008

Quote, originally posted by FlatBlackIan »
Thread dropped to archive, I thought I would bump it back to recent. How are things going Jonnie, making any headway on new parts for the S14?

Sorry have not made too much headway on new S14 parts...been spending a little time trying to get my S13 going.
I do have a new product that I am @ the drawing board stage as of now, but this is why I am getting my car going so I can do more research.

Thanks for the bump up.
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 10:59 AM 5/22/2008



Quote, originally posted by Jonnie Fraz »

Sorry have not made too much headway on new S14 parts...been spending a little time trying to get my S13 going.
I do have a new product that I am @ the drawing board stage as of now, but this is why I am getting my car going so I can do more research.

Thanks for the bump up.
Jonnie

Cool, well if you need to bounce ideas off anyone, you can always email me. Good luck getting your car up and running.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: ser20det at 10:10 PM 5/25/2008



Quote, originally posted by Jonnie Fraz »
I belive the OEM cover will fit as it bolts to the tension control arm brackets, and my brace does not hang lower than the brackets.

Hi !

Finally i want one for my s13 silvia !
Can i get it unpainted because i want to powdercoat it and how can i contact you ?

I'm in Quebec , Canada

Thank's



Post Title: Re: (ser20det)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 7:39 AM 5/26/2008



Quote, originally posted by ser20det »

Hi !

Finally i want one for my s13 silvia !
Can i get it unpainted because i want to powdercoat it and how can i contact you ?

I'm in Quebec , Canada

Thank's

Shoot him an email, his addy can be found in his profile.



Post Title: Re: (FlatBlackIan)
Posted by: ser20det at 10:34 AM 5/26/2008



Quote, originally posted by FlatBlackIan »

Shoot him an email, his addy can be found in his profile.

Thank's ! This is what i was looking for !


Edit: E-mail Sent



Post Title:
Posted by: killedbydeath at 12:48 PM 5/26/2008



is the s13 brace still readily available?


willing to ship to canada??

i seriously need this part. it will make me a racecar pimp. i'm a pretty big product whore, so lots of my friends will be hearing about this for sure.



Post Title: Re: (killedbydeath)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 11:04 PM 5/26/2008



Quote, originally posted by killedbydeath »
is the s13 brace still readily available?

Yes, I have a couple in stock.

Quote, originally posted by killedbydeath »

willing to ship to canada??

Yes I will ship to Canada...it is a little pricy though. About $25.00 US

Quote, originally posted by killedbydeath »

i seriously need this part. it will make me a racecar pimp. i'm a pretty big product whore, so lots of my friends will be hearing about this for sure.

Very Cool!





Post Title:
Posted by: Dano at 3:03 AM 5/28/2008



I really do enjoy this brace... I'm anxcious to hear about your other ideas Johnnie .



Post Title:
Posted by: Otto MCR at 9:53 PM 5/29/2008

This looks wonderful...this WILL be one of my first purchases once I get my coupe S13



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: killedbydeath at 9:40 AM 6/8/2008

Quote, originally posted by Jonnie Fraz »

Yes, I have a couple in stock.


Yes I will ship to Canada...it is a little pricy though. About $25.00 US


Very Cool!


just the news i've been waiting for!

25 bucks is nill, i'll let you e-mail me i guess.

im_drunker_than_you@hotmail.com

i'll be sending you the cash as soon as we get this on the roll, and as soon as i find my bloody wallet!



Post Title:
Posted by: 21nemesis at 12:14 AM 6/11/2008



Email sent



Post Title: Re: (21nemesis)
Posted by: tbradley222 at 12:56 AM 6/14/2008

does this product work with the nismo power brace? or only with the oem braces?

if so....shipping to Calgary Alberta?

email at tbradley_2 at hotmail dot com please



Post Title: Re: (tbradley222)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 10:21 AM 6/14/2008



Quote, originally posted by tbradley222 »
does this product work with the nismo power brace? or only with the oem braces?

if so....shipping to Calgary Alberta?

email at tbradley_2 at hotmail dot com please

Unfortunately no it does not work with the Nismo powerbrace. They are one in the same. Mine is just a bolt in version that uses the stock brackets for ease of install and lower cost on shipping.

Thanks for the interest
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: tbradley222 at 10:28 AM 6/14/2008



Quote, originally posted by Jonnie Fraz »

Unfortunately no it does not work with the Nismo powerbrace. They are one in the same. Mine is just a bolt in version that uses the stock brackets for ease of install and lower cost on shipping.

Thanks for the interest
Jonnie

ahh okay. Too bad because I have heard a lot of people doing something similar to this with the power brace. Unfortunately my stock braces are garage now as the previous owner decided to drill some extra holes in the brace and moving the mount point for the tension arms? Anyway I need to just get a whole new brace...so i got a good deal on a used power brace.

If you decide to make one for the power brace in the future let me know :D

looks like a solid product! gl



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: GIJOE69 at 1:03 PM 7/6/2008



Hey buddy, do you still have anymore S14 bars left? well hope you still check this, so I can purchase a bar and feel the difference :-P btw... Shipped to 94014 (Daly City, CA)



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: iitywygms at 7:02 PM 7/9/2008

Quote, originally posted by Jonnie Fraz »

Sorry have not made too much headway on new S14 parts...been spending a little time trying to get my S13 going.
I do have a new product that I am @ the drawing board stage as of now, but this is why I am getting my car going so I can do more research.

Thanks for the bump up.
Jonnie

New product?????

Rear strut bar, tri mount, or better, with battery tray?
Yes please.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Kalypso at 4:39 AM 7/10/2008



how many s13 braces do you have left



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Kandyman619 at 12:05 PM 7/14/2008

You still have any s14 braces in stock?



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: celica3sgte94 at 11:42 PM 7/19/2008

hi im very intrested in buying one for my s13. can you e-mail me where to send payment and if you have it in stock to yoxjapsta@hotmail.com thanks



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: weeman0987 at 11:50 PM 7/27/2008

hey waz up jonnie i was wondering if u were still selling the s13 ones i would love to buy one in the future.
email me at prodjectdking@yahoo.com
thx



Post Title: Re: (Kalypso123)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 8:08 PM 7/28/2008

How many do you want?
Quote, originally posted by Kalypso123 »
how many s13 braces do you have left
I try to keep them in stock, but I go through them pretty fast. I am always building them though.

Quote, originally posted by Kandyman619 »
You still have any s14 braces in stock?

No...but I have to get some built. I will post up when they are done.

Thanks guys for the support...you keep me very busy!




Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 8:22 PM 7/28/2008



Hey Jonnie, we've seen how much your brace helps on the street, this weekend I will be seeing how everything feels when the car gets a little dirty. Its time to go RallyCrossing, 240SX style.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: slo240sx at 6:49 PM 8/1/2008

Do you have any of the s13 braces avalible email me at christopher.near@us.army.mi



Post Title:
Posted by: Ajax at 1:40 PM 8/11/2008

JonnieFraz, I emailed with some questions, but never got any contact back. I'm looking for an s13 brace shipped to 55404- what's my total?
crpr240@yahoo.com



Post Title: Re: (Ajax)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 7:28 PM 8/11/2008

Quote, originally posted by Ajax »
JonnieFraz, I emailed with some questions, but never got any contact back. I'm looking for an s13 brace shipped to 55404- what's my total?
crpr240@yahoo.com

Check your spam filter Dave. The first time I tried emailing Jonnie, my email kept dumping his messages to the spam folder. Not to mention he is a busy guy. Good luck getting a brace for your car, they make a hell of a difference.



Post Title:
Posted by: Ajax at 7:43 AM 8/13/2008



Spam Filters a negative. I check through all my ads for penis enlargement, replica watches, and unsolicited stock tips for real messages and nothing from Jonnie has come through.
I'm sure he is a busy guy, so Jonnie, if you will let me know what my total cost would be, I can paypal money to you on Monday.




Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: weeman0987 at 10:04 PM 8/16/2008

hey wats good jonnie when u ever get the chance hit me up at prodjectdking@yahoo.com i would love to buy one for an '89 hatch
i live in 22903, VA



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (weeman0987)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 5:45 PM 8/19/2008

Sorry guys...I ussually check my e-mail several times a day. Don't know what could have happened.
That is affirmative I am kinda busy...lol

I will send out emails to you guys that left them. Feel free to post up any questions for me. I will do my best to answer them.

Take care
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: slo240sx at 5:18 PM 8/20/2008



So do you have some ready let me know email is christopher.near@us.army.mil thanks.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: bry240 at 7:05 PM 8/21/2008

I really need an S13 brace. Please post paypal info.



Post Title:
Posted by: Ajax at 8:10 AM 8/27/2008

I recieved mine yesterday. This brace is one I've been looking to get for a while- I've had strut bars for years, and got fender braces a few years ago (those made a huge difference). I'm looking forward to seeing how much of a difference this will make on top of the other braces. I'll let you know when I've had a chance to install and test.
Dano and lumberjack- What kind of paint did you guys use on your braces?



Post Title: Re: (Ajax)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 11:24 PM 8/27/2008

Quote, originally posted by Ajax »
I recieved mine yesterday. This brace is one I've been looking to get for a while- I've had strut bars for years, and got fender braces a few years ago (those made a huge difference). I'm looking forward to seeing how much of a difference this will make on top of the other braces. I'll let you know when I've had a chance to install and test.
Dano and lumberjack- What kind of paint did you guys use on your braces?

I just used krylon. Paint isn't all that important, most rattle can paints are generally the same, its the prep work that makes all the difference. I thought about clear coating mine, but I decided not to. The paint has held up remarkably well, the only spots missing paint are where Ive scuffed over rocks and stumps while getting a little to friendly with the ditch.



Post Title:
Posted by: Ajax at 6:57 AM 9/2/2008



We hooked up the brace Sunday. With the condition of my stock bracket, it might have been easier to use a Nismo brace and replace the whole thing, but after using a hydraulic spreader and some tap-tap-taperoos, we were able to get the pieces in solidly.
One note for anyone with a HICAS car- the holes for your steering hose bracket may not line up with those one this brace- Make sure you take a look before you start bolting up! It does not appear to be the same alignment. We ended up just zip-tying, which should be fine, but it doesn't quite have the perfect fit look anymore. I may go back later and figure out some way to modify and make it fit better, but for now, its fine.
We took the car out after installation. Some quick lane changes and driving up driveways at angles confirms there is a slight difference on my car, which is pretty good, considering how heavily braced my car is already (strut bars, fender braces, recently repaired frame rail). I definitely give it 2 thumbs up




Post Title: Re: (Ajax)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 10:24 AM 9/6/2008

Sweet man you got it in! Sorry about the PITA to install...Being that the TC brackts are like the lowest part of the car somtimes they take a beating, and it does complacate the install.
It awesome that you noticed a difference right away even how braced up your car is.

Take care
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Razi at 10:19 AM 9/8/2008



How much would shipping be to 92881?
E-mail : Davewiz89@yahoo.com



Post Title:
Posted by: -RJ- at 4:52 PM 10/2/2008

how much shipped to 23462

lil_pinoy777@yahoo.com



Post Title: Re: (-RJ-)
Posted by: Razi at 11:44 PM 10/2/2008



He doesn't check back on this thread often, mostly does on his thread on Zilvia.

Emailing him will get you the fastest response.

I just got mine a few days ago, and it rocks.



Post Title: Re: (Razi)
Posted by: mestizo at 4:42 PM 10/3/2008



Yup email is the easiest way to get a hold of Jon, he also has a website too.

stealth-custom-fab.com



Post Title: Re: (mestizo)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 6:19 PM 10/15/2008



Sorry guys...way busy! But that is no excuse for not taking care of my Nico brothers.

I think I got back to all of you guys via E-mail...if I missed you please feel free to repramand me...lol.
E-mail is truly the best way to get me, but I will try harder to keep up.

Thanks
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: justjuiceit4 at 9:04 PM 11/26/2008



Any estimate when these will be ready for purchase again?



Post Title: Re: (justjuiceit4)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 1:37 PM 11/29/2008

Quote, originally posted by justjuiceit4 »
Any estimate when these will be ready for purchase again?

I try to keep a couple in stock at all times. If I am out it only takes me a day to get one ready.
How many do you need?



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: justjuiceit4 at 9:16 PM 12/3/2008



Just one for right now. Thanks.



Post Title: Re: (justjuiceit4)
Posted by: tramp_drift240 at 2:49 AM 12/8/2008

VERY VERY INTERESTED.

i read the write-up for s14 install, thought it was way hard to put in.

i was told just now that the s13 is much easier, like a LOT easier, as shown by the pictures in the first post.

hit me up with any info, trying to get an s13 one shipped to 25064



Post Title: Re: (tramp_drift240)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 6:44 AM 12/8/2008



Quote, originally posted by tramp_drift240 »
VERY VERY INTERESTED.

i read the write-up for s14 install, thought it was way hard to put in.

i was told just now that the s13 is much easier, like a LOT easier, as shown by the pictures in the first post.

hit me up with any info, trying to get an s13 one shipped to 25064

Yes the S13 brace is much easier to install. Was it my write up?



Post Title: Re: (FlatBlackIan)
Posted by: Nis-240sx-san at 5:33 PM 12/8/2008



I'm really interested in this, I'm going to email you.



Post Title: Re: (FlatBlackIan)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 7:21 AM 12/10/2008

Ian did an amazing write up on the S14 install...so much so I linked it to my site on the install portion.
Yes the S13 is way easier to install...no holes to drill just bolt it up.
Quote, originally posted by FlatBlackIan »

Yes the S13 brace is much easier to install. Was it my write up?

Aaron,

I could not get your zip code to work...is it correct?

Modified by Jonnie Fraz at 7:12 PM 12/11/2008



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: justjuiceit4 at 7:57 PM 12/14/2008



So the S13 ones are ready to ship now?



Post Title:
Posted by: Nvkreationz at 3:50 PM 1/2/2009

Hey you got a s14 one in stock..just need one and price shipped to 14606? email me at darachea9405@gmail.com thanks



Post Title: Re: (Nvkreationz)
Posted by: marcrubi89sx at 2:32 PM 1/26/2009

please email me at MarcRubiano@hotmail.com
i would like one for an s13.
shipping to nj- 07628
=thank you very much sir.




Post Title:
Posted by: superonionman at 7:41 PM 2/11/2009

S13 order

I too would like to order one. E-mail me at superonionman@gmail.com if you have any made or a date when you think you're going to make some. Shipping to TX 78734



Post Title: Re: (superonionman)
Posted by: FlatBlackIan at 7:45 PM 2/11/2009



Jonnie does not check in here all that often, I would suggest emailing him directly.

You can find his email in his profile.



Post Title: Re: (FlatBlackIan)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 7:16 AM 2/13/2009



Ian,

Thanks so much for helping these guys get in touch with me. I think I got back with everybody. If not please feel free to to post here or e-mail me directly.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: duece00duece at 5:11 PM 2/13/2009



Hey Jonnie. I go to school right now learning motorsports fabrication in Sacramento. I am building a race/drift s13 and would love to pick up a brace from you. I can pick it up anytime after 5: 00 pm, preferably late next week...that is if you'll have one ready. PM an adress I can google. Thanks!



Post Title:
Posted by: Razi at 8:37 PM 2/17/2009

I don't remember if I posted on here after installing your brace Jonnie (it rocks by the way :D), but for everyone that is on the fence about buying these.

Buy them! It takes a lot of the body roll away, besides my turbocharger, this is the one of the mods that made the most positive difference in my car's behavior.



Post Title:
Posted by: ShereKhan at 9:11 AM 2/22/2009



i need one so bad must save $90!



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Artyracer at 10:56 AM 3/3/2009

Just got mine installed, which was a piece of cake by the way. Quality craftsmanship by someone who obviously cares about the product he's putting out. Makes a world of difference. Too bad I blew my auto tranny while testing just how much of a difference the brace made.....lol



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace
Posted by: Jables at 8:21 AM 3/5/2009

Jonnie I shot you an email yesterday but figured id post up here to. Interested in getting one of these from you sometime soon. Just let me know if you have them ready to go or not..



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jables)
Posted by: freakyjason at 3:31 PM 3/6/2009

Looks like a quality product. I'm definitely sold! OP you'll be getting an email from me in the near future. Cant wait to get mine!



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (freakyjason)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 7:59 PM 3/8/2009

Cool...just let me know and I will get one out to you.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Crazyirish at 7:19 PM 3/20/2009

I got mine. Excellent product. Thanks Jonnie!
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...brace




Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Crazyirish)
Posted by: SirSilvia at 5:35 PM 3/21/2009

Quote, originally posted by Crazyirish »
I got mine. Excellent product. Thanks Jonnie!
http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...brace

just saw your thread C.I. and I remember this brace a while back, and was thinking of getting one.
and I will, just waiting for next week's pay



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (SirSilvia)
Posted by: Crazyirish at 11:29 PM 3/21/2009

I think you'll be happy with it. I think I need to get some nice front tension rods to complement it.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Crazyirish)
Posted by: 240_fun at 8:19 PM 3/23/2009

One s13 for me!
email me please
nickcrate@gmail.com



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (240_fun)
Posted by: 240sx_NyC at 8:07 PM 3/24/2009

i would like one too please! SPINZZ@gmail.com



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (240sx_NyC)
Posted by: ablumenauer at 10:57 AM 3/29/2009

Definitely need one... ignatiusinc@yahoo.com

Thanks



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: LugNut18 at 8:59 AM 4/4/2009



Priced shipped to 21014. Thanks
Email: Wkaracer18@aol.com



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (LugNut18)
Posted by: freakyjason at 1:01 PM 4/14/2009

You've got mail!



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (freakyjason)
Posted by: eidk at 11:45 AM 4/17/2009

I want one! I want one!

stefancabral@gmail.com



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (eidk)
Posted by: freakyjason at 12:50 PM 4/22/2009



Has anyone heard from Jonnie lately? I sent him an email a while ago and got no response



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (freakyjason)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 5:30 PM 4/22/2009

Oh I saw him...wait.

Sorry guys I have ordered some more parts for the S13 braces. You guys keep buying them up...lol
I hope to have parts next week.

Thanks
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: eidk at 10:49 PM 4/22/2009



Well shoot me an email when they become available. I will buy one immediately



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (eidk)
Posted by: freakyjason at 6:59 AM 4/23/2009

Quote, originally posted by eidk »
Well shoot me an email when they become available. I will buy one immediately

Same here man! I was starting to think I was never going to get my hands on one of these cold steel beauties!



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: 240sx_NyC at 7:50 AM 4/26/2009



i deff want one too!



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (240sx_NyC)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 9:23 PM 4/26/2009

I am going to have to drive down to the bay area and spend a day with my laser cutter.
Thanks for hanging in there guys.

Take care
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: eidk at 10:52 AM 4/28/2009



supply and demand!

I'll always wait for a quality well built product! Can't wait to get this.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (eidk)
Posted by: maj Andres at 9:12 PM 4/28/2009



Emailed you



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (maj Andres)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 6:05 PM 4/29/2009

Thanks for hanging in there...I picked up parts today and will have the S13 TC brace in stock this weekend.
I have a few of the S14 braces right now.

Take care
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: freakyjason at 8:45 AM 5/4/2009



Any update on these puppies? My paypal finger is getting itchy!



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: maj Andres at 8:13 PM 5/8/2009

Got it! Just installed it at the auto hobby shop on base, man do I love those 4 point lifts! makes working underneath your car so much easier! And those impact guns, man they're great to work with, took off those bolts in a second.
Anyways, back on the subject. It wasn't as hard as I thought it was gonna be to install on the S14. The only annoyance of the install is that the bolts that came with it were a little bigger than my biggest drill bit, just gotta make sure you drill your hole centered. The install was also complemented by a TEIN strut bar, which had an L on both of the bases where it bolts on to the car (it fits but it also interferes when the hood is closing)
gonna call em about that.
Oh and it fit like a glove! except for that one piece that had trouble going in because I bent the tension arm a tad when I put my foot on top of if to hold it while I drilled the hole. (my bad)
Definetly feel the difference when turning, feels stiffer. I decided to keep it flat black.
EDIT: I took a better picture to replace the crummy one that was on here before. This is how it looks installed:

Is this brace supposed to be painted?

Modified by maj Andres at 10:22 AM 5/20/2009



Post Title:
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 11:18 PM 5/8/2009



Awesome! Yes if you have access to a lift, it makes it so much easier.
Glad you got it all installed, looks good.
The brace is painted with Rustolium Hard Hat...their industrial division, so it should be good.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: freakyjason at 12:56 PM 5/13/2009

Hey Jonnie, did you get my emails?



Post Title: Re: (freakyjason)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 10:44 AM 5/21/2009

Yep I got your e-mail...your brace is on the truck for delivery today.

I have these back in stock, so if you were waiting... there here.




Post Title:
Posted by: slideordie85 at 5:56 PM 5/23/2009



still available? how long is the wait time?



Post Title: Re: (slideordie85)
Posted by: eidk at 1:21 PM 5/24/2009

gonna throw my email up a 2nd time. Still want one

stefancabral@gmail.com



Post Title: Re: (slideordie85)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 4:49 AM 5/25/2009



Quote, originally posted by slideordie85 »
still available? how long is the wait time?

Yep I am still building them. The wait time is the time it takes Fedex to get it to you...lol.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: freakyjason at 5:29 AM 5/27/2009



Got it! I'm at work so i must be brief with my "review." First thing i noticed was the car felt smoother! Even my GF commented on how much smoother the car felt. It doesn't seem to road steer as much and turn in is less labored for sure. I haven't been able to really put it to the test yet but so far, i am really floored by the overall quality, craftsmanship and performance. Thanks Jonnie, it was well worth the wait!



Post Title: Re: (freakyjason)
Posted by: mestizo at 11:06 AM 5/27/2009

Quote, originally posted by freakyjason »
Even my GF commented on how much smoother the car felt.

LOL the same was said by my GF her first ride in the car after Jonnie's TC brace was installed.



Post Title: Re: (mestizo)
Posted by: motoman399 at 10:43 AM 6/7/2009



i think i missed it somewhere.. how much for the s14 ones? thanks



Post Title: Re: (motoman399)
Posted by: maj Andres at 2:39 PM 6/7/2009

I paid $95 for mine + shipping



Post Title: Re: (maj Andres)
Posted by: maj Andres at 9:21 PM 6/9/2009

Anyone running an aftermarket swaybar with their S14 brace? I noticed that my stock one is pretty close to the brace... I don't know how much fatter aftermarket ones are.



Post Title: Re: (maj Andres)
Posted by: motoman399 at 10:47 PM 6/9/2009

Quote, originally posted by maj Andres »
I paid $95 for mine + shipping

cool thanks

Quote, originally posted by maj Andres »
Anyone running an aftermarket swaybar with their S14 brace? I noticed that my stock one is pretty close to the brace... I don't know how much fatter aftermarket ones are.

my aftermarket sway bar is only about a 1/4 inch bigger in over all diameter. so it shouldnt be a problem.



Post Title: Re: (motoman399)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 6:20 PM 6/10/2009



Quote, originally posted by motoman399 »

cool thanks

my aftermarket sway bar is only about a 1/4 inch bigger in over all diameter. so it shouldnt be a problem.

Yep $95.00 plus shipping. The S14 one is much more involved than the S13 model, but I only charge a little more for it.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Sky240PWR at 9:25 PM 6/15/2009



one shipped to 62650?....i'm buying it for sure so get it ready...lol
91 hatch

Modified by Sky240PWR at 9:38 PM 6/15/2009



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: xxmexx at 7:18 AM 6/23/2009

Interested in the S13 brace. Email me at wosw07@yahoo.com with payment instructions.



Post Title: Re: (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: cole d at 1:07 PM 6/29/2009

I'm interested in one of these as well email me chriscoleman102@hotmail.com



Post Title: Re: (motoman399)
Posted by: maj Andres at 3:01 PM 6/29/2009

Quote, originally posted by motoman399 »

my aftermarket sway bar is only about a 1/4 inch bigger in over all diameter. so it shouldnt be a problem.

Did you ever install yours? was your aftermarket sway bar a problem? I know you said it shouldn't be a problem, but I've learned not to assume anything.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: xxmexx at 5:50 PM 7/9/2009



I recived my brace yesterday and installed it today. I also own the Nismo power brace and was going to try and compare the two but after seeing them side by side there are differences in the design that make that impossible. Jonnies brace is a little more heavy duty than the nismo brace and his cross bar is a little thicker. The welds on Jonnies brace are really nice and far superior to anything Nismo. It comes down to Bolts vs welds ... and thats up to you.

My install took all the material mentioned plus a rubber malet and a C clamp to get it done. time from lifting the car to backing it out was about 45 minutes. The brace is a tight fit and when the the front of the car was in the air i had zero room next to the sway bar. once the car was back on the ground i have about a 3 inch space between the brace and the sway bar. I don't think an aftermarket sway bar will be an issue sor the S13 brace.

I installed it on my daily s13 which is stock except for drop springs. I didnt have a chace to drive it much today because it was raining pretty bad. I am not sure if I noticed better handling or if i was just willing to drive more spirited because it was there. I will give a good go at it tomorrow (weather permiting) and give an update on that aspect.

If I had to do it again I would. The price was right for my budget and to me it is a nice alternative to the Nismo Brace or any other aftermarket tension rod brace for that matter.

Modified by xxmexx at 6:05 PM 7/9/2009



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (xxmexx)
Posted by: Rays_240 at 6:21 PM 7/9/2009



email me with payment instructions, ray@signsomething.com, 21102 MD



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Rays_240)
Posted by: slim_240 at 2:00 AM 7/12/2009

email me at mrwilliamquach@gmail.com

very interested!! looks like a great quality product!



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (slim_240)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 10:52 PM 7/19/2009



E-mails sent guys...If I forgot anyone, sorry about that. You can always send me an e-mail to jonnie@stealth-custom-fab.com.

Thanks
Take care
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: BMAR240SX at 11:29 PM 7/22/2009



I am interested in one and i am eager for it for an event, shoot me an email with availability and price for an s13 brace to 11385

Bmar240sx@tmail.com


Modified by BMAR240SX at 7:17 AM 7/23/2009



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (BMAR240SX)
Posted by: chargerucd at 9:05 AM 8/3/2009



Hello,

Also e-mail me on the availability and price for 1993 240sx shipping to 93030.

jagordillo@yahoo.com

thanks




Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (chargerucd)
Posted by: mestizo at 10:47 AM 8/4/2009



For those of you interested in Jonnie's TC Arm Brace, he will be away from a computer for about a week. So sit tight and he will return your e mails as soon as he can.



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (mestizo)
Posted by: Jonnie Fraz at 7:22 PM 8/10/2009

Im back...Thank you very much Mestiso for feilding any questions!

I think I got everyone that wanted to order...If I missed you please feel free to jar my memory.

Take care
Jonnie



Post Title: Re: S13 bolt in tension arm brace (Jonnie Fraz)
Posted by: Space Monkey at 4:35 PM 8/19/2009



Could i get a quote to Coquitlam BC Canada?

Thanks!

pabiez69n AT hotmail.com




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