proper wheel size for the V

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what size wheel do you think is perfect for the V?


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i have some Rota Circuit 8's 16's with BFG KDW's 225/65's looks good.

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2dr_sentra wrote:i have some Rota Circuit 8's 16's with BFG KDW's 225/65's looks good.
pics?

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blind_snyper wrote:
pics?
Its stock height




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looks good.

whats with the wheel wells?

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blind_snyper wrote:looks good.

whats with the wheel wells?
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no, it looks like he has a lip there.

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18" just like this..


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I'd vote both 17" or 18" if I could, but I'll give a nod for 17"

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18s do look better because of the high roofline make the car look bigger. Bigger rims help to visually ground the car. But, the 1.8L is too anemic for the added rotational mass of 18s... unless you buy a set of exotic lightweight forged rims — in which case would be ridiculous to spend that much on rims for a sub $20k car. 17s is the best compromise between looks, cost and everyday driveability.

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feloniousmonk wrote:18s do look better because of the high roofline make the car look bigger. Bigger rims help to visually ground the car. But, the 1.8L is too anemic for the added rotational mass of 18s... unless you buy a set of exotic lightweight forged rims — in which case would be ridiculous to spend that much on rims for a sub $20k car. 17s is the best compromise between looks, cost and everyday driveability.
Yup, thats why i recommend to this forum, if u want a better look buy an 18" wheels, but the light weight one!!i can recommend u :

1. Rays enginering - Gram Light Pro 57 (mine)2. Rays enginering - Volk Racing TE 373. SSR Predecessor.

Why? bcause the design, quality, PCD & offset that fits the versa or latio is quite limited for the Japan Rims. And its all light weight and strong enough. Bcause i had a bad experience with the 19" i-forged wheels on my nissan xtrail. i hit a medium size hole and then bang!!! it cracks!!

The light weight japan wheels is far more strong then the forged.

I don't know is it easy to get that thing in us. But in jakarta its quite difficult to find the exact PCD for the versa (japan wheels).

But if u have a limited budget just go with the 17"

and yess, 18" wheels tire also expensive. And i recommend u for the tire :

1.Falken (more noise than the michelin but stronger)2.Michelin (mid noise, not to stiff, but less strongger than the falken)3.Pirelli (damn expensive, but the most quite tire i've ever had)4.Continental (the best based by my experience)

hope it helps.

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Hey 2dr Sentra, your car looks great! If I may ask, where did you get your wheels, and how much were they? Lots of Miata guys ran those Rotas and had good things to say about them, but I didn't know they could be had in the Versa bolt pattern. Thanks.

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I say 18's ................ I have Falken 205's with Eibach Springs sits ok and rides pretty good as well.


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was your V at SEMA 06?

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bulld0g wrote:was your V at SEMA 06?
i think it was.

that car is sexy

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Yes it was at SEMA 06, it went to CES 08 for its last show. I changed it up a little for its last performance. Here its most recent mug shot..... Unfortuanetly it is no longer street legal (like all the 06 SEMA Versas, so it just sits in a warehouse waiting for its next life that I will share with forum in due time. I am selling all of the aftermarket parts of (including the wheels & tires) if anyone is interested. PM for more info if anyones looking for a drop in full custom stereo system.


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how much for the system?

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hey that guy has the sport package.... it looks nice....

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When you say you have 205's on your car..I know you said 18's but what is the width of the sidewall?

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When you have a 1.8L engine with 120 torque, the wheel should be no larger than 14" or you'll lose acceleration and gas mileage, even if the wheel weight are the same.

If you want better performance, get stickier tires with stronger sidewall.

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Soravia wrote:When you have a 1.8L engine with 120 torque, the wheel should be no larger than 14" or you'll lose acceleration and gas mileage, even if the wheel weight are the same.

If you want better performance, get stickier tires with stronger sidewall.
how do you figure acceleration and mileage will be worse even if the wieght is the same?

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blind_snyper wrote:
how do you figure acceleration and mileage will be worse even if the wieght is the same?
Not to mention 14"s won't even fit on the Versa. Brakes are too big but I consider that a good thing..

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blind_snyper wrote:
how do you figure acceleration and mileage will be worse even if the wieght is the same?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_of_inertia

Yes, I should have said 15". You can get them around 11LB per wheel for a decent price.

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Soravia wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moment_of_inertia

Yes, I should have said 15". You can get them around 11LB per wheel for a decent price.
what you mean is if we get bigger rims with the same wieght as stock and tires that make the overall height taller acceleration and milage will be worse, right?or are you saying that the same weight wheels and tires that are overall 1/10th (5 total rotations per mile difference (and .4 mph)) of an inch will be that much worse (yes i know the 1/10th will affect it be how much?)?

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That's valid only if you are running the vehicle on the bare rims with no tires.

Since 185/65R15 tires are approx the same diameter of 215/45R17 tires (24.5in vs. 24.6in), the amount of force required to get both moving will be exactly the same if both are the same mass.

It's entirely possible to get 17" wheels and tires that are lighter than (less mass than) the stock 15" wheels and tires while maintaining the same radius, thus less force is required to get them moving over the 15" wheels and tires.

A bigger issue to overcome will be the rolling resistance/tire friction.

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There is also the issue of WHERE the weight is on the wheel, not just the wheel weight.

But all that said, just remember that 1.8L engine with all the early torque delivery still doesn't make all that power to be lugging around heavy wheels.

If you're not aware of it yet, most 'ALLOY' wheels weight a lot more than they should be.

Something like a Kosei wheel would weight about 14LB while another from Motegi street models would weight 20LB for the same size, etc. Still less than steel wheels but not as good as one might be lead to believe.

Check for wheel weights on http://www.tirerack.com

As for larger wheel gets more distance covered than smaller wheel, this applies only when you are on the last gear at highway speed. As for anything below, you can use a higher gear sooner instead of a larger wheel to cover the same distance while using less energy. That's what the transmission gears are for.

Wider wheels not only get more friction due to larger tires, they also have more 'OUTER' weight than narrower wheel of same model and diameter. and 'OUTER' weight takes more engergy to turn than weight that is closer to the center.

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blind_snyper wrote:no, it looks like he has a lip there.
That stuff you line your doors with so you don't damage the edge of your door on someone else's car (s******) ... he's also put it along the wheel wells.

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2K Marketing wrote:PM direct for more information.......
<smartass> There's no PM on this forum </smartass>

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Soravia wrote:If you're not aware of it yet, most 'ALLOY' wheels weight a lot more than they should be.

Something like a Kosei wheel would weight about 14LB while another from Motegi street models would weight 20LB for the same size, etc. Still less than steel wheels but not as good as one might be lead to believe.
Does anyone know what the stock 17" alloys weigh? That would be good info to have before choosing another wheel, so you could know if it was lighter or heavier.


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