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[Kwon88]

Im new to nico and this whole car scene. I just purchased a 95 240 last month. This is going to be my project car as well as my daily driver for now. So far I just got a set of coilovers put on. I've been doing some research on the site and Ive decided to just stick with the stock engine and get it turbocharger set- up on it. Now I've been looking around and found a set-up but Im not sure whether to purchase it or get a custom fabricated set-up. Im not looking for ridiculous hp gains cuzz it'll be for the track as well as the ocasional drifting(eventually to be a show car). I was thinking about just making the bottom end stronger getting some rods and pistons and then getting a mild cam for the top. This is where I found the turbo kit http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...l1116 But all your help will be appreciated. If any of you guys have any good set-up ideas let me know. Thanks guys.

[480sx]

Welcome to Nico bud, this is a great place to begin your project. What you really want to do first is read these stickied posts at the top of the page, they have nearly everything you need to know to turbocharge your Ka.

Since your post was mostly aimed at getting some information about that kit, let me give you a link(also at the top of this page) that you should read over. zer...age=1 This is specifically about those kits, definitely some information you need to know.

Your much better off spending a few months researching, learning, and putting together your own kit IMO. If your dead set on a kit, JGS makes the best kit hands down for our motor. Once you have done your research and made your choices, post up your plans, what you want to buy, and everything for us to look over. We can tailor your setup to make sure you get it done right the first time.

[WDRacing]

^^^^ EXACTLY ^^^^

[taco_401]

i would builted my own kit before buying some one els kit

[WDRacing]

i would builted my own kit before buying some one els kit

Try slowing down, typing clear words and using grammar.

You're going to be hard pressed to build your own kit for as little money and with the quality parts that JGS offers. Ebay manifolds and turbo's do not count...their quality pales in comparison.

WD

[Ekinchheng]

Maybe its because its JDM tyte yo! How you going to have a jdm turbo kit for a ka..... FAILED

[240sxvaj]

Everything on ebay looks like crap. maybe the manifold is do-able, but i dont recommend it. also all the gaskets need to be replaced with sr oem gaskets which will handle a whole lot more pressure. Thank GOd i didnt even thought about ebay when i did my kit.

Except for Phase2motortrend selling me an ebay turbo manifold/elbow and told me it was the same as megan and overcharged me. Beware of this whoever is going the t2 route.

[Kwon88]

Alright so I think Im going to get the JGS starter kit but as far as the rest of the parts what should I do? Im looking for the best quality I can get. So I think Im going to rebuild the engine a little by getting some new rods, pistons and some cams. But as for the rest which would be the best? Sorry for all the questions still trying to learn about all this.

[silvias14freak]

Jgs kit is a decent start but trust me you'll upgrade in a little

[WDRacing]

Jgs kit is a decent start but trust me you'll upgrade in a little

What makes you say that? Do you have the JGS kit? Do you have a boosted KA? Is 450whp not enough? Because that's what the JGS kit is rated for...

Try ending the sentence with a period.

WD

[Kwon88]

So I'm going to get the JGS kit to start out with with the t3/to4e turbo with the .63 trim. I'm also going to get eagle rods, bc s2 camshaft, cp pistons, tomei 555cc injectors, and godspeed intercooler. Then Im thinking about a JWT or enthalpy tune. Tell me what you guys think of it. And any suggestions.

[neverlift]

You will be happy with both of those companies. I wont say they are as good as dyno and custom tunes, BUT, they will get it done safely, and thats what you looking for

[racersonly2004]

couldnt have said it beter myself but i heard stillin also has pretty good tunes. but back to the turbo kit if your gona go for hp around 250-300 at the flywheel and if ur trying to save some cash u could piece a kit together for under 2 grand using ebay turbo headers about $80 (just block off the egt censor on the #4 runer) ebay intercooler about $100 ebay oil supply about $30 sr20 injectors about $25 each used. rebuilt gt28 from s15 about $300 (save an extra $100-$200 by blocking of the wastegate flange and using the internal wg on the gt28), custom 3" downpipe and exhaust about $300. total about $910+tx and shipping. all thats left is the jwt ecu $595 if u go wich the stage 3 cams from bc with the dual valve springs for about $600 ull be able to increace ur redline about a 1000rpm then get jwt adjustable cam gears $140 to spread the lobes apart which will make it idle smoother and prevent exhaust gases from re entering the combustion chamber. on about 7-10 psi and the stock 9.5:1 compression pistons u should be able to break the 300hp barier on pump gas and all for under $2000


Modified by racersonly2004 at 12:55 AM 7/12/2008

[Kwon88]

That doesn't sound half bad Especially for under 2 grand and I'm tight for cash ( Working for Disney as a Chef ) But is that going to be a reliable set-up? Also, I think that eventually Im going to want to upgrade for some more power I just don't want to spend a couple grand on a set-up that I'm going to upgrade and end up spending more money. Plus I want to build a turbo kit that will dominate

[WDRacing]

Listen to the advice you've already gotten...it's solid. I've read some of racersonly comments and most are just bad...

Try Emance over JWT or Enthalpy...they are only $150 and do exactly the same thing.

WD

[Kwon88]

Thanks for all your help guys!!! I really appreciate all the help. I'll hopefully have this project completely finished by next year once all my funds come through.

[Kwon88]

By the way does that sound like a decent set-up I put together? ^^

[WDRacing]

By the way does that sound like a decent set-up I put together? ^^

Yep, it's a great combo.

[nissanfanatic]

Ebay intercoolers aren't too bad. I run one currently and have put down 532whp through it and ran 32psi through it. I've never had a chance to test IAT, but I did net 6whp more through this core vs my old "boostdesigns" core which was supposedly Garrett. The results were 414whp at 24psi on Boostdesigns, and 419whp at 20psi on the Ebay core.

[WDRacing]

Core shape, piping diameter, end tank design...etc all vary so much it's hard to get a decent "real world" comparison. Suffice it to say, a big FMIC and the appropriate sized piping will almost always yield good results.

Like Cory said, over 500 ponies means something is working out pretty good

[racersonly2004]

the setup i gave u is purfect for the money to hp ratio but remember if u know ur gona upgrade later its probably best to save up some mor cash. the only things u would need to change with the setup i gave u are turbo injectors ecu, and prob maf depending on ur hp goal. jwt ofers retunes for $100, i heard som pretty bad experiances with emance and enthapy but there dirty cheap so i guess if u get a good one (wich will be hard) it will be good for ur pocket. i just cant do that gamble

[240sxvaj]

Listen to the advice you've already gotten...it's solid. I've read some of racersonly comments and most are just bad...

Try Emance over JWT or Enthalpy...they are only $150 and do exactly the same thing.

WD

i second on emance, work the same and gaurantee to work or if you have any problem, jason(emance) wont stop until you're happy w/ your tune.

[WDRacing]

the setup i gave u is purfect

Perfect? Really???

couldnt have said it beter myself but i heard stillin also has pretty good tunes. but back to the turbo kit if your gona go for hp around 250-300 at the flywheel and if ur trying to save some cash u could piece a kit together for under 2 grand using ebay turbo headers about $80 (just block off the egt censor on the #4 runer) ebay intercooler about $100 ebay oil supply about $30 sr20 injectors about $25 each used. rebuilt gt28 from s15 about $300 (save an extra $100-$200 by blocking of the wastegate flange and using the internal wg on the gt28), custom 3" downpipe and exhaust about $300. total about $910+tx and shipping. all thats left is the jwt ecu $595 if u go wich the stage 3 cams from bc with the dual valve springs for about $600 ull be able to increace ur redline about a 1000rpm then get jwt adjustable cam gears $140 to spread the lobes apart which will make it idle smoother and prevent exhaust gases from re entering the combustion chamber. on about 7-10 psi and the stock 9.5:1 compression pistons u should be able to break the 300hp barier on pump gas and all for under $2000Modified by racersonly2004 at 12:55 AM 7/12/2008

Would you mind showing a Stillen ECU tune for the 240SX?EGT Sensor on the 4th runner? Are you talking about the EGR valve that aft of the intake mani?Exhaust header for the T28 is the bottom mount type with NO external wastegate flange. The top mount type with the flange for the wastegate doesn't come in a T2 flange for the T28...so yeah...no idea what you're talking about You're talking about doing things cheaply and using EBay parts, yet you're telling him to upgrade valve springs, cams and cam gears when the stock parts are good for 450whp.And last but not least, the $595 JWT tune over a $150 Emance Tune...

So I meant what I said...you have no idea what you're talking about and are giving people not just bad advice, but you're mixing parts that don't even work together.

WD

[240sxvaj]

Perfect? Really???

Would you mind showing a Stillen ECU tune for the 240SX?EGT Sensor on the 4th runner? Are you talking about the EGR valve that aft of the intake mani?Exhaust header for the T28 is the bottom mount type with NO external wastegate flange. The top mount type with the flange for the wastegate doesn't come in a T2 flange for the T28...so yeah...no idea what you're talking about You're talking about doing things cheaply and using EBay parts, yet you're telling him to upgrade valve springs, cams and cam gears when the stock parts are good for 450whp.And last but not least, the $595 JWT tune over a $150 Emance Tune...

So I meant what I said...you have no idea what you're talking about and are giving people not just bad advice, but you're mixing parts that don't even work together.

WD

OWNEDD!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!! :hide

[DMan II-40]

On top of that he didn't factor in the price of gauges, wideband, or clutch into the $2000 budget. I'm doing my kit at a $2000 budget, from what I have read I think it will be a good kit.

[DevilMB3017]

KA-T <3's WD.

[Kwon88]

Thanks for the help guys...project is being set back again cuzz I'm starting to leak gas and haven't had a chance to see which problem it could be cuzz of work. Think it might be the tank or a line **** sucks. By the way do I have to build up the internals( ie cams, pistons, and rods)...will I see more gains in power that way.

[racersonly2004]

ihavi realy have no need to prove anything what so ever to you on the ebay headers especily the top mount design thers a fiting on the fourth runer if u wish to install an egt(exhaust gas temperature) censor. you are correct the t28 originaly is a bottom mount turbo but if you new anything what so ever about turbos u would know that u can remove bothe exhaust housing and compressor housing and flip them 180* and wallaa a top mount turbo just drill if nesseccary for the wastgate mount. also ebay offers a boutom mount header bothe by the way can fit a t28 t3 or t4 the only troubble is u should rienforce them with brackets as with any turbo headers unless u want them to crack, do to the constant torq of the motor. and in any case headers are not as complicated to make as a reflashed ecu. and oh yea as for the stillen ecu. u probably wont find it on the web but you can call them at 1 800 834 0376 ask for kenny he hooks 240 guys up he dosnt know musch about tunes but dont worry hes only a salseman they send them out probably to jwt
Modified by racersonly2004 at 9:55 PM 7/12/2008

[sunnys14]

I've never even seen a "rebuilt" S15 turbo selling for $300, nevertheless even a rebuilt ball bearing turbo at all. Real used S15 T28's go for $400+

You're talking about putting a T2 turbo on a T3 manifold. Whats the point of that when theres a bottom mount manifold already made to fit it?

You sir are loads of fail.

Do us a favor and just stop while you're ahead.

[racersonly2004]

true u probably havent seen one because garret tells people all the time that bb turbos are not rebuildable only because it takes an experianced overhualer to accomplish it do to the complexity of ballancing the wheels. theres only one place that i know of that does it and thats turbo performance in vannuys CA if u want the # i have it i can get them for that price because i wrk there on call when he needs som extra help, ur price will prob be $500. the owners name is bob and his rebuilders name is josh he used to work for turbonetics.