Help with installing tire on my wheel

[mrgrape]

So my front tires are pretty much baldand i wanted to put 225/45/17 on them..when i took it to the shop, they said they couldnt mount it because 1.length 2.widthmind u i have a 205/45/17 on the front from before.so length should fit shouldnt it??width i can understand......but i have 225/45/17 on the back and its no problem.

I have dmax coilovers and i dont know what my wheel sizes are because i bought the car with these crappy wheels. These wheels are inside the fenders mind u to get an idea...instead of sitting parallel with fenders.

Help please...I hate spinning out when im turning in the front with rain lol

[OutToWinPAHC]

Take it to another shop.

[mrgrape]

really? i also noticed that when i do hard 180s, its not smoothand feels like im hitting something...can that be my coilovers?i just checked myself how much clearence the tire to my coilovers is, and its like barely touching......

[JNM240]

If you can bring just the wheels (with old tires) and the new tires, they cant say anything about it rubbing or not fitting the car. The TIRE should fit the wheel regardless, so i dont see the problem. Maybe take it to someone else?

[mrgrape]

i just double checked, and my coilovers in the front are pretty much touching my inner front tires......I feel little needles on the other side of the tires.I got it installed at PSM, so i thought it would be legit...but i guess they didnt check for me.

do i need spacers??my back is totally fine...but my fronts f***ed up if my coilovers are touching the tire right?

[OutToWinPAHC]

Wait so you took it to a shop to have new tires put on and they refused. Or they put them on and now you rub?

[mrgrape]

no i took new tires to a shop and they refused because they said it wouldnt fit....

i guess i was rubbing before...i took it to them...ive been driving like that at least for 4 months now..........What exactly is the rubbing sensation like? After they refused and told me why, I checked when i got home and my inner tire is pretty much touching my coilover(inneer tire has like shreds).....is that why when i do hard 180 turns i feel a shaking noise and its never smooth??

do i need spacers? ahhhh im so clueless...i feel like a dumbass driving for 4 months on front without noticing my inner tire is touching my coilovers.

[Jdmstyles]

You should be able to hear / feel the tires rubbing the coils. I mean it's already been 4 months. In this case, yes the tire shop is right. it won't fit because the larger sidewall will rub even more with 225's. I'd say get a 5-10 mm spacer to fix the problem.

[Gabes13]

What's the size of the wheels?

[mrgrape]

i dont know the size of the wheels....because it was there when i bought it...they are kazera kz-a.........f*** I FEEL SO DUMB.

anyways when im driving normal i dont feel like coilovers are touching my inner tire at all....if i had then i would definently already gotten it fixed.

only when i do hard 180s i feel like shaking from my steering and front....(my whole car starts shaking) maybe thats why i could never really do smooth 180s.....

so spacers are the answer?i still dont get why 45s wont fit...when im already rocking a 45.

[swift240sx]

they will work but you probably want to run like 10mm spacers all around. if you space the front you will want to evenly space the rears (aesthetically speaking)

[PEZi]

you need spacers for sure... but simply take it to a different shop for the mounting

keep in mind that some places like discount tire woun't deal with spacers as a reliability issue... so don't even bother taking in your car... just take the wheels and tires

[Jdmstyles]

so spacers are the answer?i still dont get why 45s wont fit...when im already rocking a 45.

It's not the 45 that is causing the problem from what you've been telling us. it's the 225. the one you have mounted are 205's, which means the sidewalls are already smaller than the 225. Thus, going 225 will rub MOAR.

[mrgrape]

yeah i get that.....thats why i was wondering why people are still telling me to take it to a different shop....if i got the 225s installed, i would just rub more...prob rub constantly.

How big of a problem is this? How bad is this going to affect coilovers? my tires already have shreds.....so i should change it soon but its been working for 4 months so...lol

also since the new tires have a lot of tread compare to my bald 45's, is that why the new 45's are higher possibly and wont fit?

if its rubbing with a 205.....thats prob bad huh...my wheels are pretty much sunk inside the fender just for u guys to get an idea.

f***...i cant do much this week because i have finals...but i do want to fix this ASAP for sure.Should i just get new wheels? or should i just get spacers and be done with it....cheapest solution possible sounds legit.

[OutToWinPAHC]

I said to take it tow another shop because I was having a lot of trouble with reading your post. Some shops care a little too much, and I thought they were just saying no because it was a different tire size. If its rubbing then yeah, for liability reasons they should say no.

Spacers or wheels. I always vote for wheels that fit without spacers.

[PEZi]

wheels that don't need spacer are always a plus.... but if you don't have the money for new wheels then get spacers... the spacers are what will push the wheel out and away from the coil... from what you've posted thus far the only place its rubbing is on the coil meaning the sidewall height has no effect on the rub... but running 225's vs 205's will cause a lot more rub...

to answer your question about how big of a problem it is... well its all relative i suppose... you will eat away the tire a lot quicker so you'll blow money there... and depending how how much energy is being used to spin the tire past the coil it could cause a lot of unwanted force on your suspension parts... the goal is to make sure you have no rub under ANY circumstance...

the reason you should take it to a different shop is because they already know who you are... if they remember you they may not mount them for reputation of their business... they're not going to mount them on the car that's for damn sure... and as i mentioned above they may not mount them with spacers for 'reliablility issues'

[Joe]

It's not the 45 that is causing the problem from what you've been telling us. it's the 225. the one you have mounted are 205's, which means the sidewalls are already smaller than the 225. Thus, going 225 will rub MOAR.

close.

the 225 is the problem because its WIDER, not so much taller. so going to a wider tire will make it rub more.

the aspect ratio (45, height of the tire) difference between 205 and 225 is pretty minimal.

[93sivliaUsdm]

close.

the 225 is the problem because its WIDER, not so much taller. so going to a wider tire will make it rub more.

the aspect ratio (45, height of the tire) difference between 205 and 225 is pretty minimal.

lol i was read through thinking this to myself and you said it

get spacers and put some 195s on the front should make the rub go away

[mrgrape]

okay i need ur guys help!!So like u guys said I needed to get myself a spacer...before that i was driving on the freeway and bam my left front tire shredded due to rubbage for long time.....slapped on my spare and now driving.

Anyways before i put my spacer on...i measured the outside tirewall to the inner fender and i had about an inch and a half so i bought myself a 25mm spacer...this was when i had 205/45/17.

Now that my tire actually did shred, I really want to put on these 225/45/17 but i forgot that when i bought the spacer, I didnt measure for the 225 but 205....

Will it still sit flush or will I need to change my spacer?And if so what size spacer?

I got the 25mm to have my current rim(dont know specs) but 205/45/17 to sit flush within the fender.....but now that im going to put on a 225/45/17.....what should i do?

[Caveit77777]

okay i need ur guys help!!So like u guys said I needed to get myself a spacer...before that i was driving on the freeway and bam my left front tire shredded due to rubbage for long time.....slapped on my spare and now driving.

Anyways before i put my spacer on...i measured the outside tirewall to the inner fender and i had about an inch and a half so i bought myself a 25mm spacer...this was when i had 205/45/17.

Now that my tire actually did shred, I really want to put on these 225/45/17 but i forgot that when i bought the spacer, I didnt measure for the 225 but 205....

Will it still sit flush or will I need to change my spacer?And if so what size spacer?

I got the 25mm to have my current rim(dont know specs) but 205/45/17 to sit flush within the fender.....but now that im going to put on a 225/45/17.....what should i do?

Well if the spacer is on the 205 and right now and its even with the fender or even if it isnt, take a ruler and measure outwards from the tire 20mm and that's where your wheel will sit. Simple.

[Dazzla]

find out how much the tire is touching the coilover then get a spacer. i think 4mm-10mm will be enough for you

[spooled240]

in theory the 225 will be 20 mm wider than the 205, 10mm on each side so I'd say if you needed about 5mm more clearance w/ the 205's then you'd need about 15mm of clearance w/ the 225's. Every brand of tire is different tho and these are just numbers..but just to give you an idea of what *should* work.

[OM3GA]

I am so glad they started making coilovers with longer bottom mounts to keep the coilover further from the tire.

Run tires that dont rub, make sure you have at least a pinky of clearance between the tire and any part of the coilover. Also under compression ie hitting a bump etc. the tire will flex sometimes enough to rub the coil under compression.

Rubbing the coilovers........Stupid.Rubbing the fenders..........Done right.

[mrgrape]

in theory the 225 will be 20 mm wider than the 205, 10mm on each side so I'd say if you needed about 5mm more clearance w/ the 205's then you'd need about 15mm of clearance w/ the 225's. Every brand of tire is different tho and these are just numbers..but just to give you an idea of what *should* work.

i prob just needed 5mm to make it not rub, but 25mm to have it sit near fender...so would that mean i now need a 35mm?Ahhh

oh yeah today was a FML moment....as u guys know i was driivng on a spare....then on my way to work my other front tire becomes flat...and now since i already used my spare....i have no other rim.......so i rode my rim to work because i was close by....then im leaving it till christmas....I still cant figure out what spacer i need for a 225/45/17.....f*** this s***, and now my car is left at work....