Thoughts on Rogue Mirrors

[insomnia816]

Thought I would bring this topic up about rogue's mirror since someone has mentioned about heated mirror on another post. Although its not about heated part, but rather it's about the features/function that Nissan should have added to Rogue where you would seen it on high-end SUV/sedans. Instead of explaining in word I have posts various photos just to show you guys what I meant. Keep in mind that some functions/parts are already in exist as aftermarket and some are still at the stage of developing. And the post has lots photos that I first gathered to make up this post, so they dont belong to me. The reason I brought it up is because alot of functions are primary for safety precaution and secondary, such features automatically increase your rogue's value. Anyway, here are the lists:

Side Mirror with LED on outer case:

Side Mirror with LED

Motorized-swivel switch control Mirror, now this one needs more explaination on what it does, basically this function has 2 parts

1) mirror motor which controls the swings of the outer case, which looks something familiar to this2) a control box which controls the movement of the mirror itself

In order to get #2 to work, you need #1 installed first

To see those in action:1)when parking, gear shift to 'R' position both side mirrors face downwards so you can see the tires. Both mirrors back to normal position after shift to 'P' position

notice the gear is at 'P'

notice the gear is at 'R'

outisde view of the mirror at 'P'

outside view of the mirror at 'R'2)after parked the car, pressing the 'lock bottom' on the key and both side mirrors swings inward.

After the car is parked and press the 'lock' key, the side mirror flips in

I think those are the most common you would seen on high-ends cars, another function of what side mirror could do on very latest cars has something like this which to eliminates blind spot

but I think its redundant if your car has the above, who need such high-tech gadgets where you could just rely solely on eyes and mirrors

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[harryg]

the turn signals and the LED in mirror looks great is taht on the european model??? or has someone actually made a mod for that

also the motorized mirror is sweet since the rogues mirrors are pretty big and having them swivel in would save em from scratches from people walking in between

the mirror tilting downward when putting the car in reverse in my opinion is not helpful unless u are reverse parking into a spot if u are backing out of a drive way i find it a PITA, ive tried one on an mdx with a backup camera and for some reason i dont trust the backup camera to see whats along the sides of the vehicle, and since the mirror tilts down all i see is the rear tire/ground making me have to turn over my shoulder to check that side

[takeshi]

Although its not about heated part, but rather it's about the features/function that Nissan should have added to Rogue where you would seen it on high-end SUV/sedans.

As much as I like our Rogue, I don't consider it to be a high end CUV. We paid about $26K for our fully loaded SL AWD and that's nowhere near "high end" territory IMO. Would these things enhance the Rogue? Sure.

However, I'm happy Nissan didn't stick every possible feature on it and jack the price up as a result. I'm not sure I would have paid much more for the Rogue given some of its build quality issues -- lots of rattles and other NVH issues for a new vehicle (which would be completely unacceptable if it was high end).

[Pescakl1]

All what you listed will be standard in a few years on every car (like ABS ten years ago).

Already in Europe, they complain when a new car does not swing its mirrors when parked and locked.

But I agree with Takeshi, you cannot ask for all these features and to be not too expensive. It is the same as asking for a more powerful or V6 engine and asking for the same fuel economy .

Like you listed, in North America, all these features are already on high end cars like mercedes, BMW and high end brands of the three japanese manufacturers.

It is more common (standard) on cars sold in Japan and Europe that is why I believe it will come standard in few years.

As contrary as Harryg, I really regret the swing of the mirror when backing up (especially with the rear visibility of the Rogue), as it is not an expensive mod for the manufacturer to do (some wiring and few software lines as the hardware is already in place).It is really neat to be able to park as close as possible of the edge of the road without hitting it and maybe damaging the rim.

[kerrton]

Well Takeshi said it best, the Rogue is NOT a high end CUV, so why would you expect it to have this high end feature? The Rogue definately isn't low-end cheap either, but for a middle of the road vehicle it has a ton of standard safety features etc., so I'm happy with it.

And Pescal, ABS still is not standard on all vehicles, nor is air conditioning, look at some entry level cars, base models don't come standard wtih this. I bought a Saturn Ion in 05 and it didn't have ABS.

So instead of taking these things for granted, we should praise the Rogue for it's impressive list of options, such as power windows and door locks, ABS brakes, VDC, etc..

But of course it can't hurt to dream, so have fun and maybe consider a luxury CUV next time to be sure to get all the high end options.

[Pescakl1]

And Pescal, ABS still is not standard on all vehicles, nor is air conditioning, look at some entry level cars, base models don't come standard wtih this. I bought a Saturn Ion in 05 and it didn't have ABS.

True...

but I read somewhere that either Europe or USA are studying the idea of making it mandatory for safety reasons.

As soon as you don't take the entry level, you usually have an ABS system.

[Nick 568]

I am curious though as to those mirrors with the LED's behind them though, insomnia816. Are those being sold by some other company? And are those heated? I still find it stupid that only the Canadian Rogues come with heated mirrors standard. Sure there's not a large market for the Rogues up here in Alaska, but it'd still be nice if they at least gave the dealers the option to request them be installed on the cars being sent to their dealer.

[insomnia816]

the turn signals and the LED in mirror looks great is taht on the european model??? or has someone actually made a mod for that

also the motorized mirror is sweet since the rogues mirrors are pretty big and having them swivel in would save em from scratches from people walking in between

the mirror tilting downward when putting the car in reverse in my opinion is not helpful unless u are reverse parking into a spot if u are backing out of a drive way i find it a PITA, ive tried one on an mdx with a backup camera and for some reason i dont trust the backup camera to see whats along the sides of the vehicle, and since the mirror tilts down all i see is the rear tire/ground making me have to turn over my shoulder to check that side

Thanks for the quick response! I just got back from work in order to log on and view the forum. Actually this is an option which listed in the Nissan Asia regions that clearly stated " Exterior - LED side mirrors" and its specifically made for nissan Asia countries and therefore it would be consider as OEM there. The motorized mechanic part shown actually were on the other simliar nissan SUV model which means the Nissan Rogue's option doesnt not include such function and thus it is considered as aftermarket part. Same with the tilt function. Regarding the parts availbility I would say its obtainable which I am trying to get one for myself and once I ordered and have it shipped to Canada sometime around November to December. I will include more photos to let you know what/how exactly it looks/work like. The LED side mirror itself cost around $130 US and the mirror with LED arrows cost around $28 US. The motorized parts varies with brands and manufactures. Oh and ust another side note that from my perspective that the reason listed it as an option is because of the traffic in asia is different comparing to N. America or Europe. For Europe I am not sure because I never been there but in Asia those signal lights are considered a must since you have scooters passing by your car all the time which make it virtually impossible to let the scooter rider knows when you want to turn right or left. Cars with those function get less scartches/damage just because you get rammed by all the time.

[insomnia816]

I am curious though as to those mirrors with the LED's behind them though, insomnia816. Are those being sold by some other company? And are those heated? I still find it stupid that only the Canadian Rogues come with heated mirrors standard. Sure there's not a large market for the Rogues up here in Alaska, but it'd still be nice if they at least gave the dealers the option to request them be installed on the cars being sent to their dealer.

That is a good question, unfortunately I won't be able to answer until I got a hand on first experiment myself once I get my side mirror ordered and comparing the electric wiring inside before I will be able to tell you. But I am sure its doable because the Nissan Asia region does include defog option on their mirrors, so I dont think it will be a big problem if your rogue is equipped with heated mirror function.

[insomnia816]

Just want to correct my previous post about the motorized flip in function. This is in fact listed as an option too in the Nissan Asian region. So I would say there's OEM and aftermarket parts available.

[mlmcgahee]

As soon as you don't take the entry level, you usually have an ABS system.

My wife's 2006 2.5S Special Edition Altima did not even come with ABS...

[Elton Noway]

.... those signal lights are considered a must since you have scooters passing by your car all the time which make it virtually impossible to let the scooter rider knows when you want to turn right or left.

As a biker for many years I can appreciate the added safety margin this could provide. Then again... (in the US anyway) there are 10's of thousands of drivers that change lanes without any kind of signal at all, so it would only add a safety margin to the bikers / scooter when they were passing a car with a driver who was thoughtful enough to signal their their intentions.

Personally... if for no other reason... I wish all cars had them now so I wouldn't get stuck behind the driver for 10 miles who doesn't even know his stupid turn signal is flashing. I would like to think the flashing arrow would alert these offenders to TURN OFF YOUR INDICATOR!!! Then again... that would only work in cars with drivers who actually use their mirrors. Think about it... how about all the drivers you get behind whose mirrors are turned in such a direction that you know for a fact they don't use them! (Unless the like looking at the ground go by... or enjoy looking at the headliner of their car.)
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[insomnia816]

I just happened to come across to find a site that has photos displaying a clearer view with LED mirror on a silver rogue



and on a black rogue as well

on a white rogue

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[philipa_240sx]

True...

but I read somewhere that either Europe or USA are studying the idea of making it mandatory for safety reasons.

As soon as you don't take the entry level, you usually have an ABS system.

VDC or Stability Control has been mandated in the US starting with the 2012 model year. Since VDC works in co-operation ABS system (as it pulses individual brakes to keep the vehicle stable), ABS will also become mandatory as a result.

Transport Canada has proposed the same mandatory requirement as the USA for VDC, however it is not 'law' yet.

[ncsu]

I would guess most car companies will just put it in since they dislike making 2 cars for the NA market. This is what so many of them did/do with those damned DRL's that you Canadians are required to have.

VDC or Stability Control has been mandated in the US starting with the 2012 model year. Since VDC works in co-operation ABS system (as it pulses individual brakes to keep the vehicle stable), ABS will also become mandatory as a result.

Transport Canada has proposed the same mandatory requirement as the USA for VDC, however it is not 'law' yet.

[roadside]

DRL's rule! Why wouldn't you want them? It's almost impossible to see certain cars without them (in certain lighting conditions).
Modified by roadside at 10:39 AM 11/21/2009