FolkertSX

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1991 240sx
Glen Ellyn IL
7-18-2009
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Benjketsa31) | 2:53 PM 7/21/2009 |
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haha not that ive seen. but nice diagrams! totally helps you visualize how it would work. lol
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Benjketsa31

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1990 240sx hatch
Edmonton Alberta
11-1-2007
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (FolkertSX) | 2:54 PM 7/21/2009 |
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yeah man i got all the time in the world at work right nowz so i brought out the paint skillz
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StandardProspect

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'93 240sx '98 Q45
Delafield WI
2-14-2008
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Benjketsa31) | 4:07 PM 7/21/2009 |
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What is a ram air? Lose the pignose
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FolkertSX

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1991 240sx
Glen Ellyn IL
7-18-2009
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (StandardProspect) | 4:30 PM 7/21/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by StandardProspect » | | What is a ram air? Lose the pignose |
Ram air intakes are like cold are intakes. Cold air intakes are usually placed in the fender well area, which brings in a cooler charged air from beneath the car (outside of the engine bay), which is denser and therefore creates more power. The piping is a lot longer than a short ram which means the power gains are not seen until the mid to higher RPM band. A short ram intake is located inside the engine bay and creates power with better response times than a cold air, however the air is not as dense, which means that it doesn't make as much power in the upper RPM region and makes less power overall.
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scherger_16

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1990 240sx SR20DET, 1993 Nissan D21 pickup
Medicine Hat Alberta
7-8-2008
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (FolkertSX) | 5:31 PM 7/21/2009 |
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you will have to cut the bumper the plates are just a plastic peace i was going to cut mine and make air division plate to run to the rad to keep that cooler
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Scuffed_ChukiCoupe

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93 hatch, 95 vw golf (go-figure)
Brooklyn NY
7-9-2007
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (scherger_16) | 5:33 PM 7/21/2009 |
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the idea isnt bad but the paint picture lol, i facepalmed.
idiot on b20vtec speaking about what his garage would look like if he had $ "if i was a billionare mines would look like that too, excepts it wouldve been full of Old skool Hondas toyotas and Nissans, and Some American Muscle, And Barely any Foriegn cars"
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Koshin
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2-13-2008
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Scuffed_ChukiCoupe) | 5:57 PM 7/21/2009 |
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why do you want to modify your bumper on a stock KA? it is not going to benefit...use your great art skills for something useful at least

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mattblancarte

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1989 240sx Coupe
Seattle WA
6-21-2008
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Koshin) | 6:24 PM 7/21/2009 |
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Gotta get that extra .3 bhp worth of air running through the system, eh?
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MastaYu

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92 240SX HB SE
MD
10-3-2007
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (mattblancarte) | 6:29 PM 7/21/2009 |
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Shift_up My S13 Ressurection/Rebuild

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Koshin
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S13 Silvia K's, Y32 Gloria GranTurismo Ultima
Its not the tires screaming, its the tarmac....
2-13-2008
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (MastaYu) | 6:31 PM 7/21/2009 |
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thats the thing, it wouldnt even be worth 3hp...maybe 1 but 3 no way...its s tupid idea thats been a theme hear lately on NICO
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Warped161

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90 s13 the never ending project
Mastic Beach NY
7-14-2005
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Koshin) | 6:43 PM 7/21/2009 |
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i've had my bumper off and thought about removing those, maybe put some mesh grill there. it could help flow more air to the radi and it would look diffrent.
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Nali
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93 Hatch and soon a mint JDM 280ZX
Lusaka LSK
2-7-2008
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Benjketsa31) | 7:45 PM 7/21/2009 |
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i think the reason no one has done it yet is because the gains are completely negligible. Also when you consider the amount of work you are doing to gain some 0.02342bhp it ends up feeling like a waste.Ur better of getting some tubing an DIY'n a Ram air intake.

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fukin240

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95' S14, 91' NX1600
Acworth Ga
3-4-2007
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Benjketsa31) | 8:04 PM 7/21/2009 |
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Just do thishttp://videos.streetfire.net/v...4.htm
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Wc240

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Sac CA
5-12-2009
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (fukin240) | 10:50 PM 7/21/2009 |
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we had my bumper off doin some some stuff one night, anyways, the way to do what you ask is to get a bottle of 1800 and a dremel. after i did this everyone asks how much power/much more cooler temps does the car have lol
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StandardProspect

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'93 240sx '98 Q45
Delafield WI
2-14-2008
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (FolkertSX) | 11:04 PM 7/21/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by FolkertSX » | | Ram air intakes are like cold are intakes. Cold air intakes are usually placed in the fender well area, which brings in a cooler charged air from beneath the car (outside of the engine bay), which is denser and therefore creates more power. The piping is a lot longer than a short ram which means the power gains are not seen until the mid to higher RPM band. A short ram intake is located inside the engine bay and creates power with better response times than a cold air, however the air is not as dense, which means that it doesn't make as much power in the upper RPM region and makes less power overall. |
Haha, don't need the lesson on the intakes. This kid made me go to some retarted nissan meet full of sentra fanbois who kept using the words "pop charger" and "ram air" when talking about their "mods". So whenever I hear those stupid terms it pisses me off. I actually have a "ram air" on my 240, it absorbs all the heat from my aluminum radiator and I really wish I had a stock intake to replace it with.
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breadbox

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Red 89 240sx,Black 89 Koop, White 84 720 4x4KC
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10-17-2006
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (StandardProspect) | 8:14 AM 7/22/2009 |
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I know plenty of people who have cut those out. the fact is it looks better stock.
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Flicktitty

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92 Z71 / S13 Coupe
Delavan WISCONSIN
9-21-2004
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (StandardProspect) | 8:43 AM 7/22/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by StandardProspect » | I really wish I had a stock intake to replace it with.
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i got one you can have. hit me up. nismos13_silvia@yahoo.com
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slidestyle69

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1995 nissan 240sx
Florence AL
3-27-2009
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Benjketsa31) | 9:56 AM 7/22/2009 |
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y| Quote, originally posted by Benjketsa31 » | Hey guys has anyone heard or have ever popped out the black thing in the pignose front bumper (right one in the middle of the s13 pignose) and put a funnel type deal to push more air at the ram air?

 If not maybe i shoud figure out how and make a write up. Modified by Benjketsa31 at 3:02 PM 7/21/2009
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yes this would be bad a**, and i wanted to add a little engineering to your build( ) maybe you could fit an eletric supercharger(pop charger ) and have a super charged ram air'd nissan sohc 240. ohhhh im having an orgasm, sheww. keep us posted man
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StandardProspect

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'93 240sx '98 Q45
Delafield WI
2-14-2008
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (slidestyle69) | 10:43 AM 7/22/2009 |
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^ha| Quote, originally posted by Flicktitty » | i got one you can have. hit me up. nismos13_silvia@yahoo.com |
Awesome! I'll for sure take you up on that
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fender-startocaster

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1990 240sx
lancaster ca
8-21-2007
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (StandardProspect) | 11:34 AM 7/22/2009 |
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| Quote, originally posted by StandardProspect » | | What is a ram air? Lose the pignose |
No, keep the pignose. or let me have it.
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Firewind

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240SX
St. Paul MN
5-19-2006
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Benjketsa31) | 11:44 AM 7/22/2009 |
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Ok so yes, this can work... Toyota Paseo has this to help suck in colder air from out side.One thing to consider, how much space is between the hood and the frame bar, if there is no space you won't be able to put it in there. another thing to consider is the fact that it'll be better as a sealed system, which will force the air to the engine. another thought would be to get rid of the filter box too. making a smoother system that runs more directly over to the air intake manifold. Clearly you'll still need to create a space for an air filter though. Unlike most people on these forums, I applaud your efforts and creativity. In fact I would challenge you to attempt this, I would like to see what you would come up with.
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projectdrift240kid
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s13
thompson station Tn
6-21-2009
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Firewind) | 12:53 PM 7/22/2009 |
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^im with firewind on this s*** don't ask if it will work just do it and make it so that it will do something muscle cars do the same thing and pound the strip so f*** THA HATERS YA HEARD
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maryjane

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tampa florida
5-12-2009
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Koshin) | 1:10 PM 7/22/2009 |
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run the intake through the inner fender where the factory i/c piping runs, that will ellow you to get colder air at least
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presidential

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1992 240sx hatch, 1993 240sx coupe
Tampa FL
7-25-2008
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Benjketsa31) | 1:21 PM 7/22/2009 |
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I have cut mine out for greater cooling. It's basically a straight shot to the radiator from the nostrils. Since the lower opening is stuffed full of intercooler, I figured any extra air I get would be beneficial. Sorry for the cell phone pic.
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twisted99s10
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1989 Nissan 240sx
Binghamton NY
6-1-2007
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (presidential) | 1:40 PM 7/22/2009 |
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also have mine cut out. only pic i have that clearly shows it is before paint.
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presidential

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1992 240sx hatch, 1993 240sx coupe
Tampa FL
7-25-2008
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (twisted99s10) | 1:52 PM 7/22/2009 |
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I'm really contemplating cutting out the center like you did, twisted. Probably should have done that before the bumper was installed, oh well.
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blacksrjdm

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89 240sx, 99 CBR900RR.
ABSECON NJ
12-15-2006
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (Benjketsa31) | 2:06 PM 7/22/2009 |
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Cut them out and see if it works for you, then show progress. About the only benefit I can see from it is that the radiator gets more air with a front mount intercooler. Otherwise, especially with a ka24e engine, your not gonna se any reall HP gains, "ram air" or not. But like I said if you would like to cut them out, then do it...
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volcomskater773

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S13 Coupe
huntsville al
1-3-2009
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| « Re: Has anyone done this? (blacksrjdm) | 9:27 PM 7/22/2009 |
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hp wise no probably not alot of gain but keeping the bay cooler is a definite. always good with lower temps. MS Paint FTW!!!
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