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Looks straight out of a video game!

im not spamming anything!

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I was totally joking, you homo.

Looks like plastic or something...

What's the draw?

For $700 I could have a sick 98k with scope.

These were the guns used in battlestar galactica i think.

Whats it gonna look like though? I dont know guns, but i know videogames lol.

This thing looks sweet!

FirearmsTalk forums say hi-point is garbage...
"Lifetime warranty? Just how much is your life worth? I would never trust a Hipoint, or Jennings, or Bryco or RG to work when my life is on the line. How good is the warranty when your survivors have to send it in for repairs?"

for the money they want however, I'd buy something in a real rifle caliber personally.

BUT...right now they're all fetching a premium if it has a pistol grip and take a magazine.

The stock Hi-points look like this.

But for little money can look like this.

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FirearmsTalk forums say hi-point is garbage... "Lifetime warranty? Just how much is your life worth? I would never trust a Hipoint, or Jennings, or Bryco or RG to work when my life is on the line. How good is the warranty when your survivors have to send it in for repairs?"

Lol this obviously comes from someone with 1 of 2 mentalities. Someone that A. has never used or owned one. Or B. thinks that because they are cheap they must be junk.

Hi-points are very cheap guns for what they are. And the fact that they come with a lifetime warranty is icing on the cake so to speak. And for the most part they are very reliable guns. I have shot them and never had any issues with them. Of course you will not get outstanding accuracy from them for long ranges because they use pistol cartridges, which aren't meant to go long ranges accurately anyways. As for malfunctions. All guns will malfunction at one time or another. But I personally never had a problem with them and I know lots of others that also have had no problems.

And as for that guys retarded statement about "survivors sending in gun" I have never heard of a hi-point "blowing up" or anything like that. Especially if properly cared for.

from actual owners.

with the ATI stock, they love them...BUT say overtime they start running into problems.

what's the main purpose you plan to use the gun for?

another issue would be to check into laws regarding them in your state/city as I'm pretty sure NY can get retarded with them.

Are you really saying you think the Hi Point is comparable to a Beretta in terms of accuracy? If so, wow, just wow.

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I don't get the whole pistol-caliber carbine thing. What's the draw? For $700 I could have a sick 98k with scope.

You're comparing apples to oranges Jimmy. A pistol caliber carbine is easier to shoot with it's longer sight radius than a pistol. It also increases the power of the cartridge by virtue of it's longer barrel. The longer barrel increases velocity, thus greater power.

Also, you do not have the danger of over penetration as you would with an actual rifle. There is also the danger of killing someone in the next county inadvertently with a rifle due to it's much greater range.

This is just scratching the surface, but I'm going to bed.

as you can tell. i know jack squat about guns.
but i do wish to own a rifle sometime in my life.. to practice my aim.

P90.

LBC Tail Overlays!

Ever hear of an MP5?

You can place all 30 rounds in a fist sized group in a target 10 - 15 yards away with a single pull of the trigger. There is virtually no recoil unlike rifles, 1/4th the noise, and the option of effective suppression. All bundled in a small, lightweight, and effective tactical solution.

you don't go offroading with a LeCar

the enviroment said gun is gonna be deployed in also plays a factor.

rifles in dry wall don't mix very well...pistol calibers aren't much better...but it's better.

they were once popular with police departments as some of the rifles would accept the same mag the sidearm had too but since the North Hollywood shootout...more and more have issued .223 or bigger to be kept in the patrol car's trunk.

carry a rifle in the same caliber as your pistol.

.45LC lever rifles are very popular....

Don't scoff at Hipoints. The pistols are clunky, ugly, heavy, and RELIABLE just so long you don't limp-wrist them. They do NOT fall apart like Bryco/Jennings/Jimmienz/RG/etc. They are in a class by them selves. That class is a cheap working gun that doesn't break down.

The pistols are pretty accurate too due to the fact that they don't used the Browning style locked breech (which tilts the barrel affecting accuracy) but rather are straight blow back so the barrel is always immovable.

The carbines get almost always rave reviews. Very few have problems (some of the hipoint guys have had issues with the ATI stock but I have never had a problem).

I am looking forward to getting a 45 carbine if they are ever released.

As for pistol caliber carbines, I shoot at an indoor range. Indoor ranges quite often only allow pistol calibers so I can shoot my carbines there and have fun with rifles.

Plus pistol ammo is much cheaper than rifle ammo and reloading pistol ammo is quite a bit easier. I can churn out about 200-300 rounds of 45 an hour whereas it takes a lot longer to load up 308 or 223.

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Effin 'eh I love P90s. One of these days I will own one.

The Stargate props department did one thing I really love for slinging that weapon. They designed it on a chausser strap.

Given the nature of the P90's use, I like having it strapped on like that instead of having a 2 point sling. I've used 2 point slings on P90s, and without special adapters to go over the flash hider, it's next to impossible to get a 2 point sling to work with it.

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They are big and ugly. I didn't personally care for the ergonomics of the gun, but it never failed to fire for me.

+1 P(S)90. I love mine and have it as my go to gun for home defense. I feel MUCH more comfortable with my shot placement/follow up shots from my PS90 over my XD40, or any of my other guns for that matter...

Combine with a red dot sight, factory laser, and a surefire, I would trust my life to my PS90 in any close quarters situation.

/how much I love my PS90

I have a Mossberg 590, and an old 4-10, but never really got into shotguns.

When it comes down to it, its all personal preferance. I really hope I never have to use any of my guns other than for target practice, but were a situation to arise, I am more than confident in the 5.7X28 round and my ability to use it.

Thats like saying shooting an AR-15 is the same as shooting a .22 because the bullet diameter is similar.

Here's a picture of a 5.7 projectile next to a .22LR round...

So not really like a .22 at all, other than the bullet diameter. Its more like a cut down 5.56

It has less recoil than an AR-15, and seems to me like it can do the same damage in close range.

Here's a pic of it next to a 5.56 round.

I'd like to see what that would do in close quarters to a person.

I bet it'd hurt like a dozen bigarse bee stings at once

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"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms . . . disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes . . . Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man." Cesare Beccaria, 1767 (Later quoted by Thomas Jefferson)

I don't wanna get shot by one...those little number 12 pellets might suck.

I was referring to the recoil generated by the round anyway, I know about the power on it!

Do I need to take any special considerations or care when shooting it out of a rifled barrel?

Probably just gonna shoot it for fun at short range targets.

it's designed for it.

I assume it's CCI as that's about all you'll ever find.

I saw the gun the OP posted at a gun show before I even knew anything about guns. When I saw it I was like LOLWUT?

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