Remote Start...

[Goblin]

With all this ice and cold weather I've been looking into the remote start systems. The intellikey seems to be a deal breaker with all the installers with the exception of one. He recommends (here again just remote start) Avatar Unit as the Viper 160 is no longer available and a 561T valet module. It should give me the ability to use the intellikey fob (giving up one) to start the vehicle and use it as set up by factory.

Has anybody installed a remote start with the intellikey? I did a search but keep coming up with Infinity G35, which the guy has a problem using the remote start and has to use both remotes to access his vehicle. I have no interest in carrying two remotes.

Thanks!

[bill875]

Goblin,

I had the Directed Hornet 564T installed which is a 2-Way Alarm/Remote Start (only a 1/4 Mile range though) and it works just fine on the Rogue. The only down side is that because of the Intelligent Key, the engine must be shut off after entering the vehicle (press brake pedal) as the cylinder is locked. Then the car must be restarted. In a typical set up (non intellikey) you would just put your key in the cylinder and turn it to on and drive off. Personally, I like this "feature" as it would be difficult, if not impossible to steal the car once it's remotely started.

There is a keyless bypass kit box that can be used called an XK07 (from Directed) that works just fine. Initially, the shop put in a bypass box that required one of the keys from the fob and I found that unacceptable. The price was the same for the keyless model and it's actually what I asked for when I paid for the install up front. So after some fighting with the shop, they swapped out the bypass box and put in the XK07 which DOES NOT require a key

I feel it was well worth the $$$ to have it done. Mine was $516 installed at a local auto electronics shop.

Any authorized Directed Electronics, Inc (Valet, Python, Clifford, Hornet, Avital, Viper) dealer should be able to work with DEI's tech support to get the necessary info to successfully install the system Rogue Intellikey install.
Modified by bill875 at 2:16 PM 1/7/2009

[Goblin]

Bill thanks for the input.

I have been quoted $375 (Rosenthal Nissan), $419 CarTrendz, and $577 (Safe & Sound) for just the auto start. Distance is not a factor for me as the Rogue sits 6 feet in front of my Townhouse. What I want is to retain use of the Nissan Fob. Having said that I was told it is possible with the 561T module and that it would work with the fob. They set it up to power the fob only for auto start and then once I'm in the car with the other fob, turn the ignition, press the brake, and drive off without it killing the vehicle. Supposedly this is a seamless transition from one fob to the other. I'm very skeptical as everyone is quick to say I have the same starter as the push button. I'm hopping to find someone on here who has done it and it is seamless before I let these guys experiment with my vehicle. I had a nightmare experience with my Dodge at Car-Toys in Charlotte, with a chip key.

I'm going to look into the XKO7. Thx.

[bill875]

No problem at all. Please keep me posted. It would be nice if they could get the FOB to work, however I would be worried about a FOB always being in the car. Couldn't someone just start it up if the box with the transponder in it is within range? I would call Directed at 1-800-477-1382 and check with them on capabilities and what product(s) would work best. I don't think I've heard of a bypass box that need or even works with the actual FOB, only the key.

[Goblin]

I've given up on this project for a while. All my research and from what I've been told; there is no steadfast way to use a remote start with an intellikey system on its own. The various bypass modules seem to be hit or miss at this junction as to accuracy, so for now I'm going to wait. Thanks for the input Bill875!

[elihu303]

I recently had the Python 1401 installed in my Rogue and unfortunately it came with a separate remote as well. The new remote can lock/unlock the doors but the original fob must be within 32" to start the car, and yes, you need to kill the engine and restart the car to move.

Question though: The starter is very temperamental; works when it wants to. When it doesn't, it'll crank the starter for a few seconds but the car won't turnover. It tries this 3X before quitting, but when you get in the car, there is a very strong scent of gas. I have an appt to take it back in to the installer but with the subzero wind chills this week, it's really pi$$ing me off. Thoughts?

[NismoPhan]

I think I actually have a diagram that enables you to not have to shut off the engine after remote start and just do a take over once you get in the car. I believe it came from AstroStart in Canada... which by the way was recently acquired by DEI (Viper, Hornet, Avital...) I'm a MECP certified installer and did the install of my Avital R/S Alarm unit on my Rogue... but I only have a S... so no Intelli-key... just had to bypass the transponder in the key. But there are bypass modules that work so you don't have to lose one of your really expensive I-keys. Check out bypasskit.com most of your good installer will have access to this. I love getting into a toasty warm car and not have to scrape the hell out of the windows to see on those icy mornings.

[Goblin]

I emailed tech support about the XK07. I have heard locally that that module is hit or miss when working with the intell-key. Anyhow, thanks for the site.

[WireStretchers]

The module your looking for is a DEI 1101T and is specifically designed for intell-key. There are a few other options, but this will best suite your needs. I've been a professional installer for many years and actually have one sitting in my garage. If you want the part, or need a professional install, PM me or email me at [email protected]

[sschantz]

I would love to get one as well as I live in Boston but would this void any electrical warranties?

[NismoPhan]

I would love to get one as well as I live in Boston but would this void any electrical warranties?

As long as you have it done properly (by properly, I do mean professionally, by a reputable if not MECP certified installer). All aftermarket additions to an automobile as long as it is done without interfering with the safety and normal performance of the vehicle are covered by the federal Magnus-Moss act. Which in basic terms states, unless the dealership will give you that same benefit/feature for free you can have it done without voiding any warranty.

[bill875]

I haven't been following this thread since I last replied, but I have to say that I know of two reasons to NOT use the DEI 1101T with Nissan/Infinity Intellikey's.

First, that key bypass module will require giving up an Intellikey FOB. Second, should you ever need to replace one of your Intellikeys or if you want to add one, you will need to physically remove the Intellikey that was physically placed in the DEI 1101T box for reprogramming.

I have the Hornet 564T Alarm/Remote Start using the XK07 (Keyless) Key bypass module. I recently had to have an Intellikey replaced under warranty. I was warned by the Nissan dealer and assured by the Alarm/Remote Start installer that I would have to bring everything back to him to get it functioning again and it would cost at least $40.

Because the XK07 is designed the way it is, a visit to the installer was NOT required and everything worked just fine after getting the replacement Intellikey and my original Intellikey reprogrammed. The alarm and remote start still work perfectly and I couldn't be happier.

My arrogant installer, Redline Automotive Electronics (Roselle, IL), can drop dead. The owner and his son are a real piece of work and know nothing about customer satisfaction. All they care about is making money and screwing the customer should they need any aftercare. A little extra TLC can go a long way to future purchases and/or referrals. They should realize this, but they don't care.

So anyway, there is NO valid reason to continue using the DEI 1101T. DEI even told me that for the Nissan's and Infinity w/Intellikey, the XK07 is the ONLY way to go.

[NismoPhan]

I totally agree with you Bill. DEI has gotten big and fat off the public. Yea... I do still like their actual alarms and RS units. But Bypasskit has definitely made huge strides past DEI when it comes to interfaces. I opted to use the XK07 when I installed my RS/alarm. (yep... it's a DEI model... but then what isn't now a days). And have had no complaints.

[Lyonscars]

which bypass kit requires a mechanical key from the FOB? Thanks

Paul

Bill thanks for the input.

I have been quoted $375 (Rosenthal Nissan), $419 CarTrendz, and $577 (Safe & Sound) for just the auto start. Distance is not a factor for me as the Rogue sits 6 feet in front of my Townhouse. What I want is to retain use of the Nissan Fob. Having said that I was told it is possible with the 561T module and that it would work with the fob. They set it up to power the fob only for auto start and then once I'm in the car with the other fob, turn the ignition, press the brake, and drive off without it killing the vehicle. Supposedly this is a seamless transition from one fob to the other. I'm very skeptical as everyone is quick to say I have the same starter as the push button. I'm hopping to find someone on here who has done it and it is seamless before I let these guys experiment with my vehicle. I had a nightmare experience with my Dodge at Car-Toys in Charlotte, with a chip key.

I'm going to look into the XKO7. Thx.

[bill875]

Lyonscars, the DEI 1101T requires the key from the Intellikey Fob. This is why I insisted on the XK07 which does NOT need the key from the Fob.

[Lyonscars]

What year is it? i have a 2008 Nissan Altima and there is no transponder in the mechanical key that comes inside the Intelligent key FOB.

[bill875]

On the Rogue Intellikey, there is a small release latch on the bottom of the Fob that will let you pull a key out that is used only if the battery in the Intellikey dies, rendering it useless for opening the car or starting it. So you would use the key instead until you can replace the battery in the fob.

I have a 2008 Rogue, but if I remember correctly, the Altima has push-button start. The Rogue's has a steering column rotating key cylinder. It's just on the Rogue, you don't need to put a key in the rotating cylinder if the Fob is working properly. You would just turn it to start as long as the fob is close by in the driver seat area. This might be why you don't have a key that slides out of your Fob (if I understand your message correctly).

[jmcavalieri]

But even though the XK07 doesn't use an Intelli-key, you would still need to stop the car using the brake and start once inside the vehicle after using the RS capability?

[bill875]

That's correct. You must hit the brake or use the remote to shut off the engine first. Then restart it. This is the downside of the Intellikey with Remote Start, however I think I remember seeing that someone figured out a way to get the Intellikey to work, but I don't know if it was with the XK07.

I realize having to restart our Rogues causes excessive wear, but I think it's great that if someone is tempted to steal my running vehicle, they will be in for a shock when it shuts off on them. LOL!

[koolyce]

That's correct. You must hit the brake or use the remote to shut off the engine first. Then restart it. This is the downside of the Intellikey with Remote Start, however I think I remember seeing that someone figured out a way to get the Intellikey to work, but I don't know if it was with the XK07.

I realize having to restart our Rogues causes excessive wear, but I think it's great that if someone is tempted to steal my running vehicle, they will be in for a shock when it shuts off on them. LOL!

I'm sorry, but it is not all the remote starter who need that.

I have a 2009 rogue with intellikey and when I start my rogue with the remote, when I enter the car, I only need to turn the starter at the position On and after, if I hit the brake, the car don't stop, I can drive normally.

No need to remote start, stop and start again.

[jmcavalieri]

Wh

I'm sorry, but it is not all the remote starter who need that.

I have a 2009 rogue with intellikey and when I start my rogue with the remote, when I enter the car, I only need to turn the starter at the position On and after, if I hit the brake, the car don't stop, I can drive normally.

No need to remote start, stop and start again.

Which remote start system do you have koolyce, that allows you to not have to do this?

[bill875]

Ok, that's great koolyce. I stated that it is possible to make it work without shutting off the engine. It would be nice if you could share the pertinent details of what Remote Start and Key Bypass unit were installed in your vehicle so others can demand the same units.

[koolyce]

Wh

Which remote start system do you have koolyce, that allows you to not have to do this?

I will call my dealer to ask wich one it is, but next week, I'm pretty busy.

If you have more time: http://www.autogouverneur.com/ou/laval-nissan/

You can call

When I have the information, I will post it.

[lou from ny]

ladies and gents,i have a 09 rogue sl awd with intellikey. i had the remote start installed by the dealer as part of my purchase. it works fine. the details are.....

audiovox model AS 9076

i'm sure any reputable alarm center can do the work as well but watch for warranty issues.

i hope this helps with finding a unit that works for YOUgood luck

[jmcavalieri]

I will call my dealer to ask wich one it is, but next week, I'm pretty busy.

If you have more time: http://www.autogouverneur.com/ou/laval-nissan/

You can call

When I have the information, I will post it.

So you don't have to have a key used with your RS system?

[koolyce]

So you don't have to have a key used with your RS system?

Yes I have a key, but it so small that nothing is writed on.

[swtaxncindy]

I like to put in remote starter for my 08 Nissan Rogue intellikey.Any sugguest where i can get it install

[koolyce]

I like to put in remote starter for my 08 Nissan Rogue intellikey.Any sugguest where i can get it install

My opinion, if you want to be sure that everything is ok, go to your dealer.