Backing up TMS on this one about the GTR.

[Murdered_T]

One of my techs just got back from a special Nissan training GTR deal. Here are some interesting Facts.-Can only launch the car 15 times before the transmission gives out. The most Nissan has got was 34 launches.-The fluid lists at 80 dollars a quart. It costs dealerships 49.99 a quart. The car takes 10 quarts.-The warranty depends on the driving, there is a black box in it just like an airplane.-Customers have to sign a waiver stating they will not complain about brake or transmission noise.-The brakes MUST be replaced at the same time, cost for replacing 6500.-If something goes wrong other than an oil change at the dealership, a special team needs to be called and your outta a car for a while.

So yea. Sounds promising. Sounds fast, for a couple of months.

[brandonDavid]

wow, the launching thing got me, everything else i would expect. that's such a joke. fifteen times and you need a new transmission?

[DrifterXRPS13]

Only 15 times!...that sucks...i mean i like this car but wow..i mean that just blows!

[SEV6]

Wow, I'm speechless. I was never a fan boy but kept it open as an option to purchase (in 10 years lol). Honestly though, the transmission problem is the only thing that was a shock. The uber expensive maintenence comes as no surprise though, seeing that Nissan built the GTR * as an entry level exotic that the masses couldn't afford.

*In my humble opinion.

[hsckris]

Only 15 times!...that sucks...i mean i like this car but wow..i mean that just blows!

No doubt.

I've always been on the fence about the GT-R but that is just ridiculous. I'm assuming they mean launch by using the launch setup with the car, not just preloading and flooring it. In any event, 15 times is pathetic.

[Murdered_T]

Yes they are talking about the 4500 rp mlaunch feature.

[brandonDavid]

Yes they are talking about the 4500 rp mlaunch feature.

that's what i thought. i mean wow. i've never been a fan of the gt-r and this just solidifies it. it's understandable for lets say a pretty decently worked sbc to blow a few turbo 350's that just means you're putting some power to the ground. but for a factory transmission to fail after fifteen launches in an unmodded car. sounds like nissan cut some corners pretty short.

[SEV6]

Oh well that changes things a little bit. But still, 15 launches is lame for something that's suppose to be competing with the Z06, 911 T.

[DrifterXRPS13]

you know i thought about it and i guess it's not that bad when you think about it...i mean try launching some other high end cars at that high or even higher, there all gonna do the same thing...i mean you can launch an evo like twice and the clutch goes boom, i've seen it happen over and over, i know it's just the clutch and its cheaper but i mean think about how much abuse that trans is taking each time it's launched while using the launch control system, i'm sure you can still do regular launches but just 15 times with the 4500rpm launch control system.

[Murdered_T]

yea, but think of all the people that have them that are gonna be like "Watch this" for about two months.

[Jesda]

BMW's SMG launch feature was also only good for about 30 times. At least the automotive media called out SMG for being ridiculous garbage.

[Murdered_T]

I think the value of the cars are gonna plummit drasticly and in about a year you can pick up a GTR for about 40 or so.

[OriginalWheelman]

Yeah but you could prolly put 3 trannies in it and still not add up to a 911 turbo's price. As for the $6500 brake job and the team to fix it. That's not that uncommon with a specialty car. You don't go to Monroe for brakes on your F430. It's a whole different world at that level. Most people with the money to buy one will have it sitting in the garage most of it's life anyways. Cars like that are status symbols, not dependable transportation.

Furthermore, I'm sick or people who never will buy, and never have driven the car bitching about it features. Seriously, grow up. Does someone else having a car without a clutch piss you off that bad? So you don't want an auto, so what? No one is forcing you to buy one. You want to drive a carb'd car with no electronics for the rest of your life? Fine. But don't ***** about progress. People used to ***** about FI and computers all the time too but we learned to live with them, and they have made our cars a lot better to live with.

[Murdered_T]

Hey d!ck. I like the car, I was pointing **** out that's all.

[Dattebayo]

SO when does the invincible trans come out for it? Is Level 10 going to make one?

[Red coupe]

How does everyone gloss over"-The fluid lists at 80 dollars a quart. It costs dealerships 49.99 a quart."

I understand some mark up.... but $80 for a ****ing quart? $50 at cost? I am sure its special formulation just for the car, but that is bull ****. $800 of fluid is a joke.

[Murdered_T]

It is a joke, its cause dealerships mark up stuff by at least 44 percent. I get yelled at everytime I hook my friends up and they run my numbers and see that some of my transactions are like only 10% over. Its stupid as ****.

[Red coupe]

It is a joke, its cause dealerships mark up stuff by at least 44 percent. I get yelled at everytime I hook my friends up and they run my numbers and see that some of my transactions are like only 10% over. Its stupid as ****.

Well even the dealers $50 is WAY too much for a quart of fluid.... Thats still $500 for trans fluid alone...

It would be cheaper if the fluid was filled with gold.

Even spreading R&D costs out.... Thats ****ing stupid. I know lubricants can be more complex then they would seem, but what is going on that that car needs something so specific? Other cars pull off automatically operated manual transmissions with out half a grand of fluid....

[NSR_s30]

BMW's SMG launch feature was also only good for about 30 times. At least the automotive media called out SMG for being ridiculous garbage.

Yeah my buddy is BMW tech and told me about how it is garbage.

[Soravia]

I don't think it's the Transmission, I think it meant transmission as in 'Clutch unit'.

If anything breaks, it's probably the rear differential, But all of them are in the transmission at the back so yeah, it's called transmission anyway.

Brake job probably including rebuilding ALL calipers, replacing those massive rotors, etc. Not just changing the pads with Duralast. $6500 is probably after quite a few thousand miles. The GT-R, 911 Turbo type car doesn't get to see the road much so it shouldn't be so quick in 2 months.

[Soravia]

What I'm interested in is, what is the loaner car? Versa S or NISMO 350Z or G37S?

If something goes wrong with the V6 engine, will they put the turbos on a 5.6L V8 from Titan? LoL That'd be like Gazillion Horse Power.

[dasoupdude]

-Can only launch the car 15 times before the transmission gives out. The most Nissan has got was 34 launches.

Lolz, bet that would have never happend if it had that extra pedal on the left.

[SEV6]

If something goes wrong with the V6 engine, will they put the turbos on a 5.6L V8 from Titan? LoL That'd be like Gazillion Horse Power.

No not like a gazillion hp....it would be godzilla sized power

[Loki]

-Customers have to sign a waiver stating they will not complain about brake or transmission noise.

To be fair, Nissan is going to start doing that on the Altimas soon

But yeah, that is some mighty BS. Meh. Maybe someday we'll have the legacy back.

[Soravia]

Just put a bunch of Dynamat behind the rear seats. That'll make trans noise go away.

[themadscientist]

Even the hater is shocked

[Marenta]

I'd buy one still.. and probably have sex in/on/around it. *shrug* If only for the GT-R badges.

[themadscientist]

You would have sex on a civic if she was hot.

[Marenta]

Well, that depends on if it was all riced out or not. And, hell, I'd probably have sex on a Celica if it were the right shade of red. But, that's neither here nor there.

I think it's the paddle shifters that do it..

[Soravia]

Depends on the shift knob size and the hot chick. I might need to lube the knob for the chick.

Wait, which one is the one doing the hot chick? GT-R or me?