92KA-T

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92 240sx hatch
Bowling Green KY
1-30-2008
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| « Re: Just went Turbo .... Tell me what you think (Sr20Det20) | 1:26 AM 7/17/2008 |
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i just did mine as well.. today was the first day i actually got to drive it.. t25 burns a little oil at times.. need rebuild but i love it other than that..
92 hatch 370 injectors,t25,HKS BOV, Safc2, "N1" Exhaust,KYB AGX with Stech springs
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lrb_2000

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'91 SE s13 Hatch, '95 SE s14
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5-3-2005
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What are you using for tuning? You don't need to set your timing back to 15*btdc for 7psi. You're just losing power.I'd say around 190whp and about a 14.5 1/4 mile... of course I know nothing else about the car besides this turbo setup.
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boznuttz
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wordsause ny
3-15-2006
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You really don't need to retard that much. If you wanted to be safe, just retard it back to 18 degrees or so. 7 psi would put your around 180 to 190 or so at the wheels. A friend of mine ran low 14s. He had a similar setup, 225 Kumho MXs, and a factory VLSD.
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1mansho

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Seattle wa
1-27-2008
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what kind of tune do you guys suggest for 7 psi boost on a t25, tuned ecu or safc neo and back off timing a little? im running 370cc, n60 maf, t25
KA-T 96 240sx Walbro 255 fuel pump,Gp-Sports Spec-r exhaust, SR T25 Turbo, bottom mount manifold, SR SMIC, 370cc Injectors, N60 MAF, Nistune ECU,HKS Downpipe
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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (1mansho) | 11:54 AM 7/17/2008 |
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well if your going to run a n60 maf then you might have to flash your ecu ... i didnt flash mine and im tuning with a apexi neo ... my car runs fine ...
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neverlift
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4-24-2006
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| « Re: (1mansho) | 11:57 AM 7/17/2008 |
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he should be ok w/ n60 and 370cc... its the only maf/injector setup that doesnt NEED tuning, could it use it yes.... tuned ecu hands down the best... without invasive stand alones. afc and a btm are also good for that boost
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NOVA Va
11-12-2006
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| « Re: (neverlift) | 12:17 PM 7/17/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by neverlift » | | he should be ok w/ n60 and 370cc... its the only maf/injector setup that doesnt NEED tuning |
Every time someones tried this their car has run pig rich and like ***. This does not work at all, idk how that got started.
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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (480sx) | 12:59 PM 7/17/2008 |
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so i had my turbo now 3 days ... the turbo is now burning oil... i chked my car its not the head gasket so the only other thing it can be would be the t25 is buring oil
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lancet913

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1996 240sx se
kansas city ks
9-26-2007
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| « Re: Just went Turbo .... Tell me what you think (Sr20Det20) | 1:53 PM 7/17/2008 |
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My prediction on 1/4 mile and dyno. 13.89 at 99 mph 227 hpWhen are going to the track?

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11-12-2006
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| « Re: (Sr20Det20) | 4:33 PM 7/17/2008 |
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Try to add an oil restrictor before you replace/rebuild it. What size of a line are you running to your turbo?
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WDRacing
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1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
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11-25-2002
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| « Re: (neverlift) | 5:02 PM 7/17/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by neverlift » | he should be ok w/ n60 and 370cc... its the only maf/injector setup that doesnt NEED tuning, could it use it yes.... tuned ecu hands down the best... without invasive stand alones. afc and a btm are also good for that boost |
You need to stop telling people this is ok...because you are simply not correct. ........................................................................................................................ At first glance the only thing I'd say would be to pull up your pants WD

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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (WDRacing) | 10:19 PM 7/17/2008 |
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ouch we have a internet hard ***... watch out now
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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (Sr20Det20) | 10:33 PM 7/17/2008 |
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idk what size it is really but thats it on the top of the motor u can see in the first few pics... and now the car wont rev its sitten now in my driveway idles real bad at 600rpm and when i rev it nthn happens ... when i give it full thr it foes to like 2000k but dien out and reving ....idk im hoping tis fouled plugs
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D-UNIT
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6-24-2003
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| « Re: (Sr20Det20) | 11:37 PM 7/17/2008 |
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I like how u routed the valvecover breather tube back in after the MAF. People don't believe me but my car idles funny with it off. This might sound stupid but check all of your pipes after the MAF. My Friends SR had an boost leak and ran exactly like you just stated.
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92KA-T

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92 240sx hatch
Bowling Green KY
1-30-2008
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| « Re: (lrb_2000) | 12:10 AM 7/18/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by lrb_2000 » | What are you using for tuning? You don't need to set your timing back to 15*btdc for 7psi. You're just losing power.I'd say around 190whp and about a 14.5 1/4 mile... of course I know nothing else about the car besides this turbo setup. |
for tuning we used a SAFC2 and a wide band we put mine on the dyno tonight and it got 205.3hp and 243.49tq on 7 pounds im impressed by it.. 207700 miles on the motor..
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GTR PrYdE

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1993 Nissan 240SX, 2003 Evolution VIII
La Porte TX
6-5-2005
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| « Re: (92KA-T) | 12:19 AM 7/18/2008 |
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looks pretty decent for the money, did you have to hack up that piping? I had to on my ebay piping lol
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92KA-T

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92 240sx hatch
Bowling Green KY
1-30-2008
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| « Re: (GTR PrYdE) | 12:47 AM 7/18/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by GTR PrYdE » | | looks pretty decent for the money, did you have to hack up that piping? I had to on my ebay piping lol |
my ebay kit made no sense.. good thing a buddy had a spare 1 peace cold pipe off of his SR and it fit right up.. only thing i used from the e bay set up was couplers and on the hot side where the intercooler meets the pipe..
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tjmhillz

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01 MSM Lexus IS300
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5-12-2005
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wes nice to see your finally boosted. wats up with the hair lol growing the fro back.. where was the pics taken at import intel? is this the same hatch u had before or this a new one?
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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (tjmhillz) | 8:28 AM 7/18/2008 |
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same hatch tj ... i just cut the hair yest .. lol i got tired of it ... but yea car is still not idling and i cant drive it .. it wont rev rite... dont know what to really do ...
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WDRacing
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| « Re: (Sr20Det20) | 8:34 AM 7/18/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Sr20Det20 » | | ouch we have a internet hard ***... watch out now |
What makes me a hard ***? The fact that I was stopping the spread of bad information or joking with you about your pants being pulled down?
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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (WDRacing) | 8:53 AM 7/18/2008 |
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somone help me with this damn car ....
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NateDogg
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8-24-2002
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Do some research. Do a boost-leak test. Take pics of your setup. Test injectors for leaking. Get proper engine management.
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Blown240sx
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1996 240sx
Bowling Green KY
4-21-2005
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| « Re: (NateDogg) | 2:48 PM 7/18/2008 |
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Sounds like a vaccum or boost leak.
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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (Blown240sx) | 6:26 PM 7/18/2008 |
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so turns out tis the maf... lol need a new one cant keep runing 245hp with maxed out injecors on a stock ka maf
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240sxvaj

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1991 240sx fastback KA-T
bmt ca
12-22-2006
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| « Re: (Sr20Det20) | 11:25 PM 7/18/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Sr20Det20 » | | so i had my turbo now 3 days ... the turbo is now burning oil... i chked my car its not the head gasket so the only other thing it can be would be the t25 is buring oil |
Could be a few things, bad turbo seals, oil lines are not good(feed line should be smaller than return line), or you have a loop on your return line where oil cant get back to your engine and it burns out of your tailpipe. Happened to me before. One other thing make sure to upgrade your fuel pressure regulator, my turbo set-up didnt last long before my fpr crapped out on me. i learned the hard way and got stuck on the road. i heard the reason why is because the stock fpr isnt made to handle the high flow walbro. try to unplug the maf and if it idles better than the maf is bad and make sure it is at least 12" away from turbo(looks like it is) . i made 245whp and 241wtq with stock maf and 7-8psi stock wastegate using afcneo. your stock maf should be able to handle up to around 270whp based on a guy on nico. also what is your vac/boost gauge reading, sounds like could be vac leak.
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89 KA24DE-T
Misawa AFB
1-30-2005
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| « Re: (WDRacing) | 2:00 AM 7/19/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by WDRacing » | What makes me a hard ***? The fact that I was stopping the spread of bad information or joking with you about your pants being pulled down? |
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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (Biggamehit) | 8:37 AM 7/19/2008 |
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when i unplug the maf it revs to 4 k but breaks up ...and when the car idles .. it idles at 740 the neo says.... wtf is wrong with this thing ... the cars vac is at 20 .... thats what the boost gauge says...
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240sxvaj

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1991 240sx fastback KA-T
bmt ca
12-22-2006
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| « Re: (Sr20Det20) | 10:31 AM 7/19/2008 |
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adjust the idle and make it idle at 900rpm or 1000rpm and see if that helps. btw does it hold a steady idle at 740. You're only using an afcneo right? Honestly it works but they are pretty crappy there are days where it just goes crazy and doesnt want to work right. I think the neo is pretty accurate with tach reading though. make sure to gap plugs to .033 and go at least 1 step colder, i prefer the bkr7e ngk iridium. also make sure hotwire is 5in/5out I prefer you get ecu tune something like emance, jason is really cool and especially the price it's like half the cost of that neo. Gauranteed it will be a thousand times better than that stupid afcneo. trust me i've been through two dyno shop with afcneo and i almost gave up but found out about emance. i went to meet up with him and didnt regrett getting his ecu tune. holds a really steady idle and way better power than trying to run retard timing the whole time, meaning better response when off boost. also better gas mileage. sorry typed so much. hope this helps. still check all couplers for boost leak.
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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (240sxvaj) | 1:33 PM 7/19/2008 |
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i sset the idle at 1000 and it still idles at 740 .. and i used a fog machine to look for leaks found nthn .. even hoes down the damn motor still nthn ....
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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (Sr20Det20) | 1:45 PM 7/19/2008 |
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and when my car was runign i got great gas mil.. when i was out of boost..
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Elbowblk

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95 240sx
providence RI
3-3-2008
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| « Re: Just went Turbo .... Tell me what you think (Sr20Det20) | 4:00 PM 7/19/2008 |
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damn dude thats an awesome budget build. Im gonna try that
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Jookmasta

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Miami, FL
4-18-2003
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look man, no disrespect to u nor the other poster in this thread but u honestly need proper tuning and engine management to have this car running properly 100% of the time. you're on a budget but there's only so many corners that can be cut. my suggestion is a tuned ecu, wideband, and safc. you shouldn't have to worry about timing with the ecu but if things get hairy driveability wise, you can just monitor what's going on the wideband and adjust with the safc till you figure what is f'n up. anyways, good luck with the project and she should be able to brake the 14 second barrier with a competent driver and launch.
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slepys14

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96 240sx se
phoenix az
7-17-2008
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| « Re: Just went Turbo .... Tell me what you think (Sr20Det20) | 11:11 AM 7/20/2008 |
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I think that your pants are to big, you dudes need to start wearing belts!
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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (Jookmasta) | 11:14 AM 7/20/2008 |
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i bought a wideband ... and a oil press gauge .... and imma send it out to pride performance bunch of my friends work there.. so they coming to tow my car monday... then imma see what i need done .... im not really on a budget i just spent 3 gs on the turbo set up and all the install and apexi neo install and dyno tune ... so i have a grand left lets see what i can do ...
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D-UNIT
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from a 91' S13 (15.014 @ 94.56mph)
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6-24-2003
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| « Re: (Sr20Det20) | 3:30 PM 7/20/2008 |
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yeah , lets... btw I was just 1dering , what turbo is "Matt's Drift Beast" using?
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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (D-UNIT) | 4:03 PM 7/28/2008 |
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ok so i turboed it found out its wiring porblems so ima just sell it ... what you guys think i can sell her for ...
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Zippy69

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1993 240sx coupe
Nicholson Ga
8-19-2007
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| « Re: (Sr20Det20) | 7:27 PM 7/28/2008 |
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Man, don't give up. What plugs are you using and what is the gap set? Try a gap of .35 and see how she does.
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hpmachine

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| « Re: (Sr20Det20) | 8:32 PM 7/28/2008 |
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What kind of wiring problems are there???

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Sr20Det20

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240SX
Middle Of NJ NJ
2-20-2007
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| « Re: (hpmachine) | 3:32 PM 7/30/2008 |
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i tried gapping to .35 they were gaped at .33 .... and hp idk man im guessin it is becuase my apexi neo had all my top maxes saved ....now it doesnt ...so idk what my neo did i went thru it all the map tuning is still there ... so if its my neo or what..... i have new wires and all on it ... and the head was ported and polished before turbo install .... and new head gasket and arp head studs ...
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