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eds13
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11-1-2004

  I have the weirdest CA's ever!


so this CA i have...

HAS good compression, HAS fuel, HAS timing, HAS spark, HAS air, and yet it will not run! just changed out the Coolant temp sensor too. tried different ignitors, CAS's, wiring harness, ecu's.

if anyone provides info to get this piece running i will be paypaling you a thankyou gift.

this is a final plee of desperation. please help me!





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2-10-2007

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I would guess(just a guess as I dont know anything about your situation) that you have an issue with ignition relay or maybe the switch under the clutch(god I can never remember its name) that is the safety switch under the clutch.

if you have fuel, spark and air......... you should be running regardless of the timing atleast you should run.

can you push start it?

though I hate starter fluid what does that do?

how is the fuel in the tank?(old or new)

is your ECU good?

is the maf wired properly?

could you start at what you have gone over, so that we can take it from there? I mean there is a million and one possibilities.......

is it stock trim? tunes?

I suppose you could have a massive vac leak if it is trying to start and never does? or the maf isnt hooked up correctly maybe?



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I'm disparate man, lol.

maf is wired correctly.

tried several different ecus that i know are good.

fuel tank is fine, with clean 93 in it.

havent tried starter fluid.

it has a front mount, and 3" downpipe, 2.5" exhuast,

stock turbo, and injectors, and everything else.

ninja edit: it also cranks fine.

Modified by eds13 at 4:22 PM 7/7/2008

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oh crap! just noticed you finally have more posts than me! bwahahaha
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No fire whatsoever? How do the plugs look?


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wet, almost overly wet, almost
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what happens when you crank it? video and or images would be great.

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maybe recheck timing



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3-18-2008

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I had a very similar problem.

3/4 injectors were stuck.




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Although it cranks fine, does it have partial combustion, or nothing at all?





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cranks just like it should, with the occasional pop,( every 30 seconds?)

injectors aren't stuck...

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Ok cool, have you performed the ECU diag 3?

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ecu's givin me no codes
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How about this guy? Is it working hard or hardly working....



Modified by trevr at 9:07 PM 7/7/2008

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How do you know the injectors aren't stuck open. You don't.
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No codes at all or code 55 (ie normal no errors)
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55.

i hear them pulsing... but i should be able to get it to fire, just not, not do anything.

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I know its basic, but check your grounds and all connectors to be sure they are clean, tight, and appropriately connected. I once picked a 90 supra turbo for 500 bucks with "electrical" problems. Turned out the MAF wires were slightly smashed and there was a ground loose, no other problems whatsoever.



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I bet $500 that you're flooding the motor with fuel or you're not getting enough fuel.
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check all the grounds a billion times lol. i'll double the mafs wiring....

ok...so throw another set of injectors in it?

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3-18-2008

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If you have a spare set, I'd give it a shot. Check the resistor pack also.

A word of advice, you can change injectors without removing the intake manifold. Takes about 2 hours doing it that way.

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Timing belt jumped...



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Any chance did you do a 5speed conversion? If so check you clutch neutral safety switch(if thats what you call it, basically the wires that connect to the auto shifter) in the cabin. Mine was giving me hell but once i plugged those up my car started turning on like normal.
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Quote, originally posted by articzap »
If you have a spare set, I'd give it a shot. Check the resistor pack also.

A word of advice, you can change injectors without removing the intake manifold. Takes about 2 hours doing it that way.

yeah i know, i've done it, it sucks.

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Timing belt jumped...

checked it, its fine.

Quote, originally posted by greensx »
Any chance did you do a 5speed conversion? If so check you clutch neutral safety switch(if thats what you call it, basically the wires that connect to the auto shifter) in the cabin. Mine was giving me hell but once i plugged those up my car started turning on like normal.

nope, stock 5 speed.

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Quote, originally posted by articzap »
If you have a spare set, I'd give it a shot. Check the resistor pack also.

A word of advice, you can change injectors without removing the intake manifold. Takes about 2 hours doing it that way.

2hrs?!? 40 mins tops for R and R

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Ill go with either timing.. or reversed fuel lines......

give me a picture, and a sound clip :-)



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Always takes longer the first time. We all know this.
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i'll see what i can do for a sound clip. i had to rob its ingnitor for a buddys car to get it running lol
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3-19-2005

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are all you relays still in fuse box? didnt remove them for anything? also check fuses under dash...for some reason my car was doing something similiar and it was some off the wall fuse that was blown. doenst hurt to check.



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Check your fuel pressure. Kthx.



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Just because it exhibits spark and fuel doesn't mean it's supposed to run if other issues are hampering it. Spray starting fluid into a vaccum line leading into the intake or any hole that will get the fluid into the runners and then try and start it. If it cranks and runs for a second, you're either having fueling issues such as your fuel lines being crossed, etc, etc. If your ignition is weak (ie weak battery), the CA will not crank. And lastly, if the orange near the glove compartment is not connected or it's powered source is dead, it will not crank. Try those things and see how it goes.

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fuel pressure is at 37

what orange? you mean the dash plug?

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Hrrrmm... you need pages ef-ec 39-42 of the workshop manual...

However if you already have it, it may be the euro version.. ignore base timing in this (if you have jdm ca18) as the jdm base timing is 10 +- 2

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Ecu not plugged in all the way? Do you have an SAFC wired in? Have you tested your coil packs? My guess is timing.
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yes ecu is plugged in all the way. no i dont and yes. i'm getting spark to all 4 cylinders.
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Have you tried swapping the injectors yet?
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If you have another CAS laying around try swapping it out.
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not yet lol. i have no good ignitor right now.

and yeah, i tried that.

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Did you try the fuel lines yet?

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