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sebastianpiz

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5-19-2008

  need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross


Hi,
I need advice on s14 autocrossers. i drive daily a S14 and would like to decide if i should get 17x9 fronts and 17x10 rears of enkei rpf1. Also, trying to decide if i should go 18x9 and 18x10. price difference is not an issue. can anybody tell me what offset should i choose. trying to get rims that will not touch the fender or quarter panel. i was thinking 17's so i can lower the car more and less scraping of the tires on the body of the car when i autocross. 18s look good though for everyday driving though but 1.5 lbs heavier. please advise.

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2-12-2008

 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (sebastianpiz)


nice, enkei rpf-1's are a good choice.i love them, i have 16x7's with +42 offset on my s13. honestly though, smaller the better with auto x. you might not want to go with 16's, but definitely don't' go with the 18's. i can't really help you with offset though, but my wheels(and 225/50-16 tires) won't come close to the fender, even when i do get to dropping it a little, but are right on the verge of taking my shock off. lol




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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (sebastianpiz)


Uh, what class are you going to be in?

those widths will kick you out of STS


also 17's for autox



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The bigger the wheel the less acceleration you will have at corner exit at an auto x. If your running a stock KA , 15" wheels with some 615's or Z212's will do you just fine.

Quote, originally posted by sebastianpiz »
17x9 fronts and 17x10 rears of enkei rpf1. Also, trying to decide if i should go 18x9 and 18x10. i was thinking 17's so i can lower the car more

You really need to do some research. Sounds like your getting ready for a JDM TytE car show instead of a motorsports event.

Modified by Slappy at 4:27 PM 6/28/2008



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sebastianpiz

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5-19-2008

 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (sebastianpiz)


thanks for the advice guys. i might go with the 17 inch wheels. probably 17x9s. i was going wider for the looks but i think i should not be concerned with the looks if i will autocross the car.

king

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11-21-2004

 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (sebastianpiz)


Go w/ the 17x9s. Throw a 245 or 255 tire on there, and you shouldn't need to do any fender modification.




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Ummmm. . . . Did I click the drift section. . . let me check. . . . nope, I'm where i thought I was. . . . weird, for a second I thought this thread was about tire size / offset. . . . not drifting. . . .

AnyWho. . .

What class are you running in?
If you are putting street tires on the car there are several good choices available(If you are running R-comp's then there are only 2 choices, Kuhmo, or Hoosier).
The Yokahoma NEOADVAN's are the hot STU ticket. IIRC they only come in one size in the 17's(and that is the smallest size they have) so that could be an issue. There are alos several other new tires out. I believe toyo has one as well as dunlop. Kuhmo has one on the way, and I think there is another one too, but I can't remeber. If you go with a 16's the Bridstone RE-01R's are a good choice, not sure if the toyo or dunlops come in a 16 or not, or if they are faster. They are both fairly new, and I haven't seen much testing for them. Might check SCCA forums to see if there is any talk on what the new "it" tire is.

The Be honest, the 615 is now an "old", "slow" tire compaired to what has come out since. plus Bridgestone supports autoX'rs, falken doesn't. Also The Hancoock, from what I have heard, never was as good as the 615, let alone anything else that has come out since.

I would say 16's. But that is just me.

Do you plan to run them full depth or shave them?

Modified by cracker at 11:58 AM 6/30/2008



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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (sebastianpiz)


Those both sound like terrible choices for auto-x.
If you "have" to have 17 or 18" wheels, go 17"

I've always gone by the theory of smaller/lighter is better. I run a set of 16" wheels with the RE0-1r's and am absolutley amazed how a "street" tire can stick so well. But for serious lap times I have a set of teardrops with 225-50-15 Victoracers and a set of Konigs with 225-50-14 Hoosiers.

Besides being lighter and handling better, you'll have a lot more tire choices in smaller wheels.



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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (Cone Junky)


I to run 16in with re01-r's
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I run 15" Falkens. I couldn't afford a light enough 16, and found out about the Stones a week after I had my tires mounted. meh. . . .
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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (sebastianpiz)


i cleaned this thread. no more you two.

grow the **** up.



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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (Slappy)


Quote, originally posted by Slappy »
The bigger the wheel the less acceleration you will have at corner exit at an auto x. If your running a stock KA , 15" wheels with some 615's or Z212's will do you just fine.

You really need to do some research. Sounds like your getting ready for a JDM TytE car show instead of a motorsports event.


Modified by Slappy at 4:27 PM 6/28/2008


love how he just ignored ur response when u know what ur talking about to him. stick close to 15 or 16 dude




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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (brizanden)


Quote, originally posted by brizanden »

love how he just ignored ur response when u know what ur talking about to him. stick close to 15 or 16 dude

what the **** did i just say?

if you make any other personal attacks you get a vacation.

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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (Joe)


^idk what happened i just saw this thred 5 min ago. i just saw he ignored some one giving him good advice. my bad
ps no personal attack was intended just stating slappy has a good idea of what he is talking about from what i have noticed

Modified by brizanden at 1:45 AM 7/1/2008
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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (brizanden)


Wasnt your fault. It was me and Biggamehit. I asked Joe to clean this thread up for the OP.
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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (Slappy)


thanks

I was going to ask for all that to be taken out becuase it just looks ridiculous i have not online battled like that in a while, i know better. it was a complete misunderstanding and i should have not went off like that,. things were said on both our ends that could have went unsaid.

I have no problem with you. I'm here to pick up on things and provide what info/knowledge i have gained over the years ( both active and inactive)
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one thing i learned this weekend was..... After 3-4 runs on my RT-615's, the front grip magically goes on vacation.

Note to self bring a Cool water sprayer this coming Saturday.






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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (Biggamehit)


Ive heard that about those tires. Right off the bat they are super grippy , then they start to grease. Thats why alot of people have switched to the Hankook Ventus Rs2 Z212's.

This place has them and other tires for a great price.....

http://www.edgeracing.com/tires/2055016/

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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (Slappy)


Quote, originally posted by Slappy »
Ive heard that about those tires. Right off the bat they are super grippy , then they start to grease. Thats why alot of people have switched to the Hankook Ventus Rs2 Z212's.

This place has them and other tires for a great price.....

I haven't heard anyone who liked the hankooks. Every one I know that ran them, ditchted them ASAP.

The Falkens are great, as long as they don't get too hot. Once they get too hot they go grease ball, but all tires will. It just depends on how high that threshold is. The old Kuhmo's LOVED heat, the Falkens never have.

The Bridstone re-01r is the "IT" tire right now for sub 17" tires. 17's and up, most people are running the Yoko's. Like I said earlier, there are several other tires out newer than the RE-01R's, but I haven't heard the verdict on any of them.

And a little tip to help manage tire heat, spray the whole wheel, brakes, and tires, not JUST the tires.

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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (Slappy)


^^ will do

Quote, originally posted by Slappy »
Ive heard that about those tires. Right off the bat they are super grippy , then they start to grease. Thats why alot of people have switched to the Hankook Ventus Rs2 Z212's.

This place has them and other tires for a great price.....

http://www.edgeracing.com/tires/2055016/

very much.. super super grippy and even made me feel comfortable driving in the rain for the first time since i have owned this car. When i took the tires to Summit, i think i put my foot in my mouth, i didn't yet have the skill/nerve to really slide them consistently. i had to pull the rear tires off.

it was not until the auto-x event that i learned they needed to be heated up in order to slide lol


the instructors at the session i just went to were saying lots of guys are running Toyo tires and they deal with heat well, i forgot the type though.

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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (Biggamehit)


TOYO R1R IIANM.(not sure if that is an R-Comp, or the street tire)
Dunlop has the Drizza z1 (I think that is the name)
Kuhmo has one in the works as well(Has for a while, keeps getting pushed out, last I heard)
I think there is another one though, that I can't remeber.

And I just saw a refrence to a non us spec 15" YOKO ADVAN NEOVA(SP), not sure if those are comming state side though.

I have no problems getting the 615's to slide, well since we got some ambeint temps abouve freezeing finally. Once they are hot they are great, but there is a fine line from hot to greasy.

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 « Re: need advice 17inch or 18 inch wheels for autocross (cracker)


R1R is a street tire, the direzza star spec has been getting a lot of hype in auto x havent tried it myself but doods live and die by it.
 

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