480sx
Angry Hippie
Offline
1931 posts
1991 White/Black s13 1996 Pearl White 240sx
NOVA Va
11-12-2006
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (Kwon88) | 8:42 PM 6/6/2008 |
|
Welcome to Nico bud, this is a great place to begin your project. What you really want to do first is read these stickied posts at the top of the page, they have nearly everything you need to know to turbocharge your Ka. Since your post was mostly aimed at getting some information about that kit, let me give you a link(also at the top of this page) that you should read over. http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...age=1 This is specifically about those kits, definitely some information you need to know. Your much better off spending a few months researching, learning, and putting together your own kit IMO. If your dead set on a kit, JGS makes the best kit hands down for our motor. Once you have done your research and made your choices, post up your plans, what you want to buy, and everything for us to look over. We can tailor your setup to make sure you get it done right the first time.
For Sale!Brand new Borg Warner S258 ---> http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=354932 NIB Ferrea 1mm oversize ka24de valves 4 a KA ---> http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=363557 New sparco sliders/rail for a s14 --> EMAIL ME
|
WDRacing
Super Grumpy Moderator
Offline
14394 posts
1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (480sx) | 10:50 AM 6/7/2008 |
|
^^^^ EXACTLY ^^^^
|
taco_401
Offline
162 posts
240sx
providence R.I
11-22-2005
|
i would builted my own kit before buying some one els kit
|
WDRacing
Super Grumpy Moderator
Offline
14394 posts
1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002
|
| « Re: (taco_401) | 11:54 AM 6/7/2008 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by taco_401 » | i would builted my own kit before buying some one els kit
|
Try slowing down, typing clear words and using grammar. You're going to be hard pressed to build your own kit for as little money and with the quality parts that JGS offers. Ebay manifolds and turbo's do not count...their quality pales in comparison. WD
|
Ekinchheng
Offline
289 posts
91 240sx Coupe
Philadelphia PA
6-2-2005
|
| « Re: (WDRacing) | 5:08 PM 6/7/2008 |
|
Maybe its because its JDM tyte yo! How you going to have a jdm turbo kit for a ka..... FAILED
MY 91 240SX COUPE PART OUT!!
|
240sxvaj
Offline
1635 posts
1991 240sx fastback KA-T
bmt ca
12-22-2006
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (Kwon88) | 7:32 PM 6/7/2008 |
|
Everything on ebay looks like crap. maybe the manifold is do-able, but i dont recommend it. also all the gaskets need to be replaced with sr oem gaskets which will handle a whole lot more pressure. Thank GOd i didnt even thought about ebay when i did my kit. Except for Phase2motortrend selling me an ebay turbo manifold/elbow and told me it was the same as megan and overcharged me. Beware of this whoever is going the t2 route.
 KA-T E-Mance ECU I drag 4 fun and Drift 4 ACTION! http://www.myspace.com/240sxvaj
|
Kwon88
Offline
51 posts
1995 Nissan 240SX SE
Fort Lauderdale FL
5-6-2008
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (240sxvaj) | 8:24 PM 6/7/2008 |
|
Alright so I think Im going to get the JGS starter kit but as far as the rest of the parts what should I do? Im looking for the best quality I can get. So I think Im going to rebuild the engine a little by getting some new rods, pistons and some cams. But as for the rest which would be the best? Sorry for all the questions still trying to learn about all this.
|
silvias14freak
Offline
13 posts
Fayetteville NC
6-8-2008
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (Kwon88) | 3:06 AM 6/8/2008 |
|
Jgs kit is a decent start but trust me you'll upgrade in a little
|
WDRacing
Super Grumpy Moderator
Offline
14394 posts
1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (silvias14freak) | 7:34 AM 6/8/2008 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by silvias14freak » | | Jgs kit is a decent start but trust me you'll upgrade in a little |
What makes you say that? Do you have the JGS kit? Do you have a boosted KA? Is 450whp not enough? Because that's what the JGS kit is rated for... Try ending the sentence with a period. WD
|
Kwon88
Offline
51 posts
1995 Nissan 240SX SE
Fort Lauderdale FL
5-6-2008
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (WDRacing) | 5:00 PM 7/11/2008 |
|
So I'm going to get the JGS kit to start out with with the t3/to4e turbo with the .63 trim. I'm also going to get eagle rods, bc s2 camshaft, cp pistons, tomei 555cc injectors, and godspeed intercooler. Then Im thinking about a JWT or enthalpy tune. Tell me what you guys think of it. And any suggestions. 
|
neverlift
brain fart
Offline
2651 posts
PIGNOSE #19 turbo piggy
sunshinestate
4-24-2006
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (Kwon88) | 7:39 PM 7/11/2008 |
|
You will be happy with both of those companies. I wont say they are as good as dyno and custom tunes, BUT, they will get it done safely, and thats what you looking for
PIGNOSE SQUAD MEMBER # 19
 ----------------------------------
r.i.p. Lee
09/01/89~09/28/06
|
racersonly2004
Offline
45 posts
S13 240SX
Los Angeles CA
7-9-2008
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (neverlift) | 11:18 PM 7/11/2008 |
|
couldnt have said it beter myself but i heard stillin also has pretty good tunes. but back to the turbo kit if your gona go for hp around 250-300 at the flywheel and if ur trying to save some cash u could piece a kit together for under 2 grand using ebay turbo headers about $80 (just block off the egt censor on the #4 runer) ebay intercooler about $100 ebay oil supply about $30 sr20 injectors about $25 each used. rebuilt gt28 from s15 about $300 (save an extra $100-$200 by blocking of the wastegate flange and using the internal wg on the gt28), custom 3" downpipe and exhaust about $300. total about $910+tx and shipping. all thats left is the jwt ecu $595 if u go wich the stage 3 cams from bc with the dual valve springs for about $600 ull be able to increace ur redline about a 1000rpm then get jwt adjustable cam gears $140 to spread the lobes apart which will make it idle smoother and prevent exhaust gases from re entering the combustion chamber. on about 7-10 psi and the stock 9.5:1 compression pistons u should be able to break the 300hp barier on pump gas  and all for under $2000
Modified by racersonly2004 at 12:55 AM 7/12/2008
|
Kwon88
Offline
51 posts
1995 Nissan 240SX SE
Fort Lauderdale FL
5-6-2008
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (racersonly2004) | 5:51 AM 7/12/2008 |
|
That doesn't sound half bad  Especially for under 2 grand and I'm tight for cash ( Working for Disney as a Chef  ) But is that going to be a reliable set-up? Also, I think that eventually Im going to want to upgrade for some more power I just don't want to spend a couple grand on a set-up that I'm going to upgrade and end up spending more money. Plus I want to build a turbo kit that will dominate 
|
WDRacing
Super Grumpy Moderator
Offline
14394 posts
1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (Kwon88) | 6:58 AM 7/12/2008 |
|
Listen to the advice you've already gotten...it's solid. I've read some of racersonly comments and most are just bad...Try Emance over JWT or Enthalpy...they are only $150 and do exactly the same thing. WD
|
Kwon88
Offline
51 posts
1995 Nissan 240SX SE
Fort Lauderdale FL
5-6-2008
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (WDRacing) | 7:11 AM 7/12/2008 |
|
Thanks for all your help guys!!! I really appreciate all the help.  I'll hopefully have this project completely finished by next year once all my funds come through.
|
Kwon88
Offline
51 posts
1995 Nissan 240SX SE
Fort Lauderdale FL
5-6-2008
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (Kwon88) | 7:13 AM 7/12/2008 |
|
By the way does that sound like a decent set-up I put together? ^^
|
WDRacing
Super Grumpy Moderator
Offline
14394 posts
1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (Kwon88) | 8:22 AM 7/12/2008 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by Kwon88 » | | By the way does that sound like a decent set-up I put together? ^^ |
Yep, it's a great combo.
|
nissanfanatic
Offline
1314 posts
1992 Nissan 240sx SE
Gainesville Fl
11-1-2004
|
Ebay intercoolers aren't too bad. I run one currently and have put down 532whp through it and ran 32psi through it. I've never had a chance to test IAT, but I did net 6whp more through this core vs my old "boostdesigns" core which was supposedly Garrett. The results were 414whp at 24psi on Boostdesigns, and 419whp at 20psi on the Ebay core.
-Cory
Street racing fatalities: 0.21% of total fatalities in motor vehicle crashes.
FTC1992 Nissan 240sx KA24DE-Turbo: The "Showcar"
Stock internals
532whp/486ft.lbs-30psi
12.6@122.3mph-22psi
http://ka-t.org/cory_b.php
|
WDRacing
Super Grumpy Moderator
Offline
14394 posts
1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002
|
| « Re: (nissanfanatic) | 10:17 AM 7/12/2008 |
|
Core shape, piping diameter, end tank design...etc all vary so much it's hard to get a decent "real world" comparison. Suffice it to say, a big FMIC and the appropriate sized piping will almost always yield good results.Like Cory said, over 500 ponies means something is working out pretty good
|
racersonly2004
Offline
45 posts
S13 240SX
Los Angeles CA
7-9-2008
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (Kwon88) | 12:00 PM 7/12/2008 |
|
the setup i gave u is purfect for the money to hp ratio but remember if u know ur gona upgrade later its probably best to save up some mor cash. the only things u would need to change with the setup i gave u are turbo injectors ecu, and prob maf depending on ur hp goal. jwt ofers retunes for $100, i heard som pretty bad experiances with emance and enthapy but there dirty cheap so i guess if u get a good one (wich will be hard) it will be good for ur pocket. i just cant do that gamble
|
240sxvaj
Offline
1635 posts
1991 240sx fastback KA-T
bmt ca
12-22-2006
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (WDRacing) | 12:36 PM 7/12/2008 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by WDRacing » | | Listen to the advice you've already gotten...it's solid. I've read some of racersonly comments and most are just bad... Try Emance over JWT or Enthalpy...they are only $150 and do exactly the same thing. WD |
i second on emance, work the same and gaurantee to work or if you have any problem, jason(emance) wont stop until you're happy w/ your tune.
|
WDRacing
Super Grumpy Moderator
Offline
14394 posts
1995 240SX, K5 Blazer
USA
11-25-2002
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (racersonly2004) | 12:39 PM 7/12/2008 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by racersonly2004 » | | the setup i gave u is purfect |
Perfect? Really??? | Quote, originally posted by racersonly2004 » | couldnt have said it beter myself but i heard stillin also has pretty good tunes. but back to the turbo kit if your gona go for hp around 250-300 at the flywheel and if ur trying to save some cash u could piece a kit together for under 2 grand using ebay turbo headers about $80 (just block off the egt censor on the #4 runer) ebay intercooler about $100 ebay oil supply about $30 sr20 injectors about $25 each used. rebuilt gt28 from s15 about $300 (save an extra $100-$200 by blocking of the wastegate flange and using the internal wg on the gt28), custom 3" downpipe and exhaust about $300. total about $910+tx and shipping. all thats left is the jwt ecu $595 if u go wich the stage 3 cams from bc with the dual valve springs for about $600 ull be able to increace ur redline about a 1000rpm then get jwt adjustable cam gears $140 to spread the lobes apart which will make it idle smoother and prevent exhaust gases from re entering the combustion chamber. on about 7-10 psi and the stock 9.5:1 compression pistons u should be able to break the 300hp barier on pump gas and all for under $2000
Modified by racersonly2004 at 12:55 AM 7/12/2008 |
Would you mind showing a Stillen ECU tune for the 240SX?
EGT Sensor on the 4th runner? Are you talking about the EGR valve that aft of the intake mani?
Exhaust header for the T28 is the bottom mount type with NO external wastegate flange. The top mount type with the flange for the wastegate doesn't come in a T2 flange for the T28...so yeah...no idea what you're talking about 
You're talking about doing things cheaply and using EBay parts, yet you're telling him to upgrade valve springs, cams and cam gears when the stock parts are good for 450whp.
And last but not least, the $595 JWT tune over a $150 Emance Tune... So I meant what I said...you have no idea what you're talking about and are giving people not just bad advice, but you're mixing parts that don't even work together. WD
|
240sxvaj
Offline
1635 posts
1991 240sx fastback KA-T
bmt ca
12-22-2006
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (WDRacing) | 12:43 PM 7/12/2008 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by WDRacing » | Perfect? Really??? Would you mind showing a Stillen ECU tune for the 240SX?
EGT Sensor on the 4th runner? Are you talking about the EGR valve that aft of the intake mani?
Exhaust header for the T28 is the bottom mount type with NO external wastegate flange. The top mount type with the flange for the wastegate doesn't come in a T2 flange for the T28...so yeah...no idea what you're talking about
You're talking about doing things cheaply and using EBay parts, yet you're telling him to upgrade valve springs, cams and cam gears when the stock parts are good for 450whp.
And last but not least, the $595 JWT tune over a $150 Emance Tune... So I meant what I said...you have no idea what you're talking about and are giving people not just bad advice, but you're mixing parts that don't even work together. WD |
OWNEDD!!!!!!!!!!! LMAO!!!!!!    :hide 
|
DMan II-40
Offline
444 posts
1995 240SX SE
The Bay Area California
10-22-2006
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (240sxvaj) | 1:24 PM 7/12/2008 |
|
On top of that he didn't factor in the price of gauges, wideband, or clutch into the $2000 budget. I'm doing my kit at a $2000 budget, from what I have read I think it will be a good kit.
Currently: LSD and ABS (factory options), 3" cat back exhaust
To Do: Finish piecing together my KA-T parts... ASA AR1 18", 248/232 Cam swap, Zenki Sideskirt w/ Rear Valences, and paint.
|
DevilMB3017
Offline
1049 posts
1991 Nissan 240SX Hatch & 2004 Saturn ION 3 Coupe
Union NJ
9-14-2006
|
KA-T <3's WD.
Proud Member Of WBDM2TTWFOC.
"I'm no prince, and I can't lay the stars at your feet,
But I got this old car, and she's pretty tough to beat..."
Wings For Wheels, by Bruce Springsteen
|
Kwon88
Offline
51 posts
1995 Nissan 240SX SE
Fort Lauderdale FL
5-6-2008
|
| « Re: (DevilMB3017) | 7:49 PM 7/12/2008 |
|
Thanks for the help guys...project is being set back again cuzz I'm starting to leak gas and haven't had a chance to see which problem it could be cuzz of work. Think it might be the tank or a line  **** sucks. By the way do I have to build up the internals( ie cams, pistons, and rods)...will I see more gains in power that way.
|
racersonly2004
Offline
45 posts
S13 240SX
Los Angeles CA
7-9-2008
|
| « Re: KA-T Options (WDRacing) | 9:39 PM 7/12/2008 |
|
ihavi realy have no need to prove anything what so ever to you on the ebay headers especily the top mount design thers a fiting on the fourth runer if u wish to install an egt(exhaust gas temperature) censor. you are correct the t28 originaly is a bottom mount turbo but if you new anything what so ever about turbos u would know that u can remove bothe exhaust housing and compressor housing and flip them 180* and wallaa a top mount turbo just drill if nesseccary for the wastgate mount. also ebay offers a boutom mount header bothe by the way can fit a t28 t3 or t4 the only troubble is u should rienforce them with brackets as with any turbo headers unless u want them to crack, do to the constant torq of the motor. and in any case headers are not as complicated to make as a reflashed ecu. 
and oh yea as for the stillen ecu. u probably wont find it on the web but you can call them at 1 800 834 0376 ask for kenny he hooks 240 guys up he dosnt know musch about tunes but dont worry hes only a salseman they send them out probably to jwt
Modified by racersonly2004 at 9:55 PM 7/12/2008
|
sunnys14
Offline
1373 posts
S14
Sacramento ca
12-5-2004
|
I've never even seen a "rebuilt" S15 turbo selling for $300, nevertheless even a rebuilt ball bearing turbo at all. Real used S15 T28's go for $400+You're talking about putting a T2 turbo on a T3 manifold. Whats the point of that when theres a bottom mount manifold already made to fit it? You sir are loads of fail. Do us a favor and just stop while you're ahead.
95 zenki SE
KA-T
|
racersonly2004
Offline
45 posts
S13 240SX
Los Angeles CA
7-9-2008
|
| « Re: (sunnys14) | 10:02 PM 7/12/2008 |
|
true u probably havent seen one because garret tells people all the time that bb turbos are not rebuildable only because it takes an experianced overhualer to accomplish it do to the complexity of ballancing the wheels. theres only one place that i know of that does it and thats turbo performance in vannuys CA if u want the # i have it i can get them for that price because i wrk there on call when he needs som extra help, ur price will prob be $500. the owners name is bob and his rebuilders name is josh he used to work for turbonetics.
|
racersonly2004
Offline
45 posts
S13 240SX
Los Angeles CA
7-9-2008
|
| « Re: (sunnys14) | 10:08 PM 7/12/2008 |
|
oh yea and the point of puting the t28 on the t3 t4 mani is so later when you wish to upgrade the turbo theres no need to buy another, unless you want to get one custom made with larger runers i gota hook up on thos too. and of coarse u would want me to stop wile im ahead b ecuz your loosing 
|
sunnys14
Offline
1373 posts
S14
Sacramento ca
12-5-2004
|
|
racersonly2004
Offline
45 posts
S13 240SX
Los Angeles CA
7-9-2008
|
| « Re: (sunnys14) | 11:32 PM 7/12/2008 |
|
|
240sxvaj
Offline
1635 posts
1991 240sx fastback KA-T
bmt ca
12-22-2006
|
| « Re: (sunnys14) | 12:39 AM 7/13/2008 |
|
|
240sxvaj
Offline
1635 posts
1991 240sx fastback KA-T
bmt ca
12-22-2006
|
| « Re: (sunnys14) | 12:40 AM 7/13/2008 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by sunnys14 » | | I've never even seen a "rebuilt" S15 turbo selling for $300, nevertheless even a rebuilt ball bearing turbo at all. Real used S15 T28's go for $400+ You're talking about putting a T2 turbo on a T3 manifold. Whats the point of that when theres a bottom mount manifold already made to fit it? You sir are loads of fail. Do us a favor and just stop while you're ahead. |
+1....racersonly =FAIL LOL
|
racersonly2004
Offline
45 posts
S13 240SX
Los Angeles CA
7-9-2008
|
| « Re: (240sxvaj) | 1:50 AM 7/13/2008 |
|
if u say so but if u want poof of the rebuilt gt28 call them they do all kinda turbo and supercharger work Turbo Performance
http://www.turbo-performance.com 14819 Aetna St
Van Nuys, CA 91411
(818) 994-7087
Get directions More information »
|
sunnys14
Offline
1373 posts
S14
Sacramento ca
12-5-2004
|
|
racersonly2004
Offline
45 posts
S13 240SX
Los Angeles CA
7-9-2008
|
| « Re: (sunnys14) | 2:01 AM 7/13/2008 |
|
aww poor kid is that you? 
|
240sxvaj
Offline
1635 posts
1991 240sx fastback KA-T
bmt ca
12-22-2006
|
| « Re: (racersonly2004) | 2:11 AM 7/13/2008 |
|
| Quote, originally posted by racersonly2004 » | | aww poor kid is that you? |
LOL! LMFAO!
|
racersonly2004
Offline
45 posts
S13 240SX
Los Angeles CA
7-9-2008
|
| « Re: (240sxvaj) | 2:31 AM 7/13/2008 |
|
lmao!!!!!! you guys are hillarious 
but im about to go to bed cuz it is oober l8 hit yall back in a few hours
but you till should check out turbo performance they do shipping ond dont charge for cores. piece
|
| First 1 2 > Last |
