Automatic Seatbelt

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albert_ey
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Hello all!

I have an issue with the automatic seatbelt, I searched but there is nothing relating to waht I have,

Problem:My driver side seatbelt doesn't move along the track, not when I open the door or close it.

I checked the micro switch at the end of the track. Nothing worked, so went to the junkyard and picked up a seatbelt motor and track, just to try and narrow the problem.

The seatbelt clip on the "new" track was in the open position. You know, near the front of the car, when I installed it, then plugged all of the wires back. The seatbelt moved back to the locked position, automatically.

I thought I had it working! Finally! Then I opened the door and nothing, it just sat there. it didn't move back to the open position, just like with the old one

Any suggestions? Maybe it's just another bad motor? What should I look for?

Thank you!


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carmo
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This may be a long shot but I'm pretty sure those seat belts have a lifetime warranty. Haha! Try going to a dealership and see if they will diag. and repair for free. I had to replaced some auto seat belt parts on an old beat *** Sentra under warranty not too long ago. You dont live in Va. around norfolk do you? Cos if you do that was all bs and stay the hell away from us.

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Nickcastro
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yeah dude go to the Nissan Dealership and they should do it for free because it is a safety hazard.

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albert_ey
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Thanks for the reply,

I tried taking it to the dealership and those a**holes told me it was out of warranty, that it was only valid for 90 and up. I told him I was pretty sure it was still under warranty. He said he was pretty sure it wasn't.



I'll try taking it to another dealership, maybe they were just too lazy there.

thanks again!

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djm240sx
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If that's the case, this dealership doesn't deserve your business (and anybody else's business for that matter.)

Find a dealership with integrity.

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iitywygms
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Ask them for the number to Nissan headquarters. They will cooperate then.

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pimpgixxer04
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i have a 91 SE....so does this warrenty apply??? my auto seat belt isnt workin

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check your fuses!!!!!!!! i had the same problem and i could not NOT figure it out. then when i went to install my head unit it wouldn't work so i checked my fuses and both of my 15A's were blown (they are the blue ones and they control the interior functions). so check to see if they are blown and if not then, ... i dunno.hope this helps

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iitywygms
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My dealer told me it is a lifetime warranty.

UNVMY240
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I work at a Nissan dealer... It is still under warranty!! Nissan Vehicles built 03 and up only have a ten year warranty on seat belts. All vehicles built before then is life time. Now they only can fix it IF the parts are available. Nissan is only responsible to make parts for cars ten years after their production. So go back to that dealer if there is no other one around and them.

This is out of our Nissan Warranty manual: Combination Operation CodesListed below some repair operations are “Combination” operation codes These codes describeadditional labor work which may be claimed in addition to the main operation code.Warranty Coverage: 1997–2009 Nissan Vehicles**Listed in the "Warranty" column next to the PNC in the "Failed Part" listings of the Flat Rate tables arethe codes used to identify items covered by other than the 36 months/36,000 miles Basic Coverage.Warranty codes which may be listed in this column are printed below.

88‡ = Emission Control - 8 years/80,000 miles for all states, for 1995–2009 model year vehicles.

AC = 36 months/36,000 miles - Refrigerant recharge only: 12 months, no mileage limit.

AD = Adjustments - 12 months/12,500 miles (2005 & Earlier)- 12 months/12,000 miles (2006 & Later)

CE(1) = Emission Control - 7 years/70,000 miles for 1990–2009 model *California vehicles.- 15 years/150,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for 2000-2005 Sentrasw/1.8 engine and 2004-2009 Altimas w/2.5 engine, with CaliforniaEmissions.

EC** = Emission Control - 3 years/36,000 miles for all states, for 1995–2009 model vehicles.- 3 years/50,000 miles for 1995–2009 model *California vehicles.- 15 years/150,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for 2000-2005 Sentrasw/1.8 engine and 2004-2009 Altimas w/2.5 engine with CaliforniaEmissions.

HB** = Hybrid Battery - 8 years/100,000 miles (basic), 10 years/150,000 miles (California*),whichever occurs first.

HS** = Hybrid System - 8 years/100,000 miles (basic), 15 years/150,000 miles (California*),whichever occurs first.

IP = Powertrain - 60 months/60,000 miles (1997 thru 2009 model vehicles only).

MP = Powertrain - 60 months/60,000 miles (thru 2009 model vehicles).

OT = Outer Trim Parts - 12 months/12,500 miles. Damage, failure or corrosion of outer trim parts due to environmental conditions.

PC = Perforation from Corrosion - 5 years, no mileage limit.

PT/NP = Powertrain - 60 months/60,000 miles (1991 thru 1993 model vehicles only).

RT = Radio, Tape Deck, Amplifier - 36 months/36,000 miles.

SB = Seat Belts - Useful life of the vehicle (for 1989–2002 vehicles), 10 years for 2003– up vehicles.

* California certified vehicles sold for registration in California, Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oregon,Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont or Washington and serviced in any state.

** Please refer to the applicable 1992 through 2009 Warranty Information Booklet for specifics.

‡ For PNC's "20800 - Catalytic Converter"; "22611 - EFI Control Unit"; and "20010 - Front Exhaust Tube" (check specificmodels). Also for PNC "14004 - Exhaust Manifold" if catalytic converter is permanently attached.(1) See following page for 7 year/70,000 mile coverage on 2003-2009 California vehicles.

Rev.4/08

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UNVMY240 wrote:I work at a Nissan dealer... It is still under warranty!! Nissan Vehicles built 03 and up only have a ten year warranty on seat belts. All vehicles built before then is life time. Now they only can fix it IF the parts are available. Nissan is only responsible to make parts for cars ten years after their production. So go back to that dealer if there is no other one around and them.

This is out of our Nissan Warranty manual: Combination Operation CodesListed below some repair operations are “Combination” operation codes These codes describeadditional labor work which may be claimed in addition to the main operation code.Warranty Coverage: 1997–2009 Nissan Vehicles**Listed in the "Warranty" column next to the PNC in the "Failed Part" listings of the Flat Rate tables arethe codes used to identify items covered by other than the 36 months/36,000 miles Basic Coverage.Warranty codes which may be listed in this column are printed below.

88‡ = Emission Control - 8 years/80,000 miles for all states, for 1995–2009 model year vehicles.

AC = 36 months/36,000 miles - Refrigerant recharge only: 12 months, no mileage limit.

AD = Adjustments - 12 months/12,500 miles (2005 & Earlier)- 12 months/12,000 miles (2006 & Later)

CE(1) = Emission Control - 7 years/70,000 miles for 1990–2009 model *California vehicles.- 15 years/150,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for 2000-2005 Sentrasw/1.8 engine and 2004-2009 Altimas w/2.5 engine, with CaliforniaEmissions.

EC** = Emission Control - 3 years/36,000 miles for all states, for 1995–2009 model vehicles.- 3 years/50,000 miles for 1995–2009 model *California vehicles.- 15 years/150,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for 2000-2005 Sentrasw/1.8 engine and 2004-2009 Altimas w/2.5 engine with CaliforniaEmissions.

HB** = Hybrid Battery - 8 years/100,000 miles (basic), 10 years/150,000 miles (California*),whichever occurs first.

HS** = Hybrid System - 8 years/100,000 miles (basic), 15 years/150,000 miles (California*),whichever occurs first.

IP = Powertrain - 60 months/60,000 miles (1997 thru 2009 model vehicles only).

MP = Powertrain - 60 months/60,000 miles (thru 2009 model vehicles).

OT = Outer Trim Parts - 12 months/12,500 miles. Damage, failure or corrosion of outer trim parts due to environmental conditions.

PC = Perforation from Corrosion - 5 years, no mileage limit.

PT/NP = Powertrain - 60 months/60,000 miles (1991 thru 1993 model vehicles only).

RT = Radio, Tape Deck, Amplifier - 36 months/36,000 miles.

SB = Seat Belts - Useful life of the vehicle (for 1989–2002 vehicles), 10 years for 2003– up vehicles.

* California certified vehicles sold for registration in California, Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oregon,Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont or Washington and serviced in any state.

** Please refer to the applicable 1992 through 2009 Warranty Information Booklet for specifics.

‡ For PNC's "20800 - Catalytic Converter"; "22611 - EFI Control Unit"; and "20010 - Front Exhaust Tube" (check specificmodels). Also for PNC "14004 - Exhaust Manifold" if catalytic converter is permanently attached.(1) See following page for 7 year/70,000 mile coverage on 2003-2009 California vehicles.

Rev.4/08
UNVMY240 wrote:I work at a Nissan dealer... It is still under warranty!! Nissan Vehicles built 03 and up only have a ten year warranty on seat belts. All vehicles built before then is life time. Now they only can fix it IF the parts are available. Nissan is only responsible to make parts for cars ten years after their production. So go back to that dealer if there is no other one around and them.

This is out of our Nissan Warranty manual: Combination Operation CodesListed below some repair operations are “Combination” operation codes These codes describeadditional labor work which may be claimed in addition to the main operation code.Warranty Coverage: 1997–2009 Nissan Vehicles**Listed in the "Warranty" column next to the PNC in the "Failed Part" listings of the Flat Rate tables arethe codes used to identify items covered by other than the 36 months/36,000 miles Basic Coverage.Warranty codes which may be listed in this column are printed below.

88‡ = Emission Control - 8 years/80,000 miles for all states, for 1995–2009 model year vehicles.

AC = 36 months/36,000 miles - Refrigerant recharge only: 12 months, no mileage limit.

AD = Adjustments - 12 months/12,500 miles (2005 & Earlier)- 12 months/12,000 miles (2006 & Later)

CE(1) = Emission Control - 7 years/70,000 miles for 1990–2009 model *California vehicles.- 15 years/150,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for 2000-2005 Sentrasw/1.8 engine and 2004-2009 Altimas w/2.5 engine, with CaliforniaEmissions.

EC** = Emission Control - 3 years/36,000 miles for all states, for 1995–2009 model vehicles.- 3 years/50,000 miles for 1995–2009 model *California vehicles.- 15 years/150,000 miles (whichever occurs first) for 2000-2005 Sentrasw/1.8 engine and 2004-2009 Altimas w/2.5 engine with CaliforniaEmissions.

HB** = Hybrid Battery - 8 years/100,000 miles (basic), 10 years/150,000 miles (California*),whichever occurs first.

HS** = Hybrid System - 8 years/100,000 miles (basic), 15 years/150,000 miles (California*),whichever occurs first.

IP = Powertrain - 60 months/60,000 miles (1997 thru 2009 model vehicles only).

MP = Powertrain - 60 months/60,000 miles (thru 2009 model vehicles).

OT = Outer Trim Parts - 12 months/12,500 miles. Damage, failure or corrosion of outer trim parts due to environmental conditions.

PC = Perforation from Corrosion - 5 years, no mileage limit.

PT/NP = Powertrain - 60 months/60,000 miles (1991 thru 1993 model vehicles only).

RT = Radio, Tape Deck, Amplifier - 36 months/36,000 miles.

SB = Seat Belts - Useful life of the vehicle (for 1989–2002 vehicles), 10 years for 2003– up vehicles.

* California certified vehicles sold for registration in California, Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, New Jersey, Oregon,Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont or Washington and serviced in any state.

** Please refer to the applicable 1992 through 2009 Warranty Information Booklet for specifics.

‡ For PNC's "20800 - Catalytic Converter"; "22611 - EFI Control Unit"; and "20010 - Front Exhaust Tube" (check specificmodels). Also for PNC "14004 - Exhaust Manifold" if catalytic converter is permanently attached.(1) See following page for 7 year/70,000 mile coverage on 2003-2009 California vehicles.

Rev.4/08
i called my local dealer and they said the only way it was under warranty is if it was a certain part? is that true? i have an apt on thur. to get it looked at...so if they try to charge me for the apt. what do i do?

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Print my post out and show them.. or google nissan seat belt warranty and see what u can find. If that doesnt work call 1-800- NISSAN-1 and talk with nissan yourself and find out. If it is covered witch my post proves it then Nissan will slap the dealership for being stupid and you'll get your car fixed. GL with this.

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Does your dome light come on when you open the door?

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albert_ey
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Yes, my dome light comes on.

My passenger automatic seatbelt works fine, is there a fuse for each side?

Still havn't taken it to the dealership, I don't have time right now, but i'll take it soon.

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i would try the dealership if at all possible but it sounds like a switch in the driver door not a fuse because you said it went back so it does get power. it might not be a bad switch it could be a bad connection any where in the circuit. got a volt meter LOL

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lovespeed wrote:i would try the dealership if at all possible but it sounds like a switch in the driver door not a fuse because you said it went back so it does get power. it might not be a bad switch it could be a bad connection any where in the circuit. got a volt meter LOL
so i took my car to a dealership here and they fixed it under warranty....YAY!!!! they said if its ever been tampered with its not though

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Hi, i have a '89 automatic seatbelt 240sx hatchback SE.From what i read from this forum, i can just go to a nissan dealership and ask them if they can change it for free? (free labor and parts?!) I also read about a recall about the seatbelt clips.

My second question is that if no nissan dealership has the parts, what are the other alternatives to Safety ? are manual seatbelt conversions legal? And about how much would it cost to do it?

Thanks.

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GaMBiTx wrote:Hi, i have a '89 automatic seatbelt 240sx hatchback SE.From what i read from this forum, i can just go to a nissan dealership and ask them if they can change it for free? (free labor and parts?!) I also read about a recall about the seatbelt clips.

My second question is that if no nissan dealership has the parts, what are the other alternatives to Safety ? are manual seatbelt conversions legal? And about how much would it cost to do it?

Thanks.
What i gather from the seat belt clip recall is that the little red button on the seat belt lap buckle and it was easy to break and when it did shards of plastic would go into the unlock/locking mechanism making it unsafe if you needed to get out of the car due to safety reasons like after a crash

So i believe the recall and the auto shoulder strap seat belts are unrelated

As for your second question it would probably depend on your state, for example i drive a old Toyota truck and it has neither an air bag or an auto seat belt but its still legal according to safety inspection. I spoke with a inspection place about my not so working seat belt and they said "It needs to function the way it was designed" so if you do convert to a manual seat belt i would think it would be legal but i would double check before you plan anything, again it will vary state to state. Hope that helped

Edit: as for the free labor and parts thing at the Nissan dealership i also believe you are right I'm having the same problem everyone else seems to have where only one side works and I've checked all the wiring and they all have continuity so i will be bringing it down to my dealership today. I will let you all know how it went and how anal i might have to be with them about the warranty

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Good Luck, my local dealership "Weston Nissan" said it was the latch that was causing the belt not to trigger all the time. I told them to pound sand because I knew better and they took my baby hostage until I paid them a $240 dollar 'diagnostic fee' I was so angry I nearly popped a vein because I'm currently broke and I had only brought it to them to fix because of the warranty on it; needless to say I called Nissan and they were sympathetic but told me there was nothing they could do because they can only take the dealer's word and not mine.They said I could take it to another dealer to get a second opinion but if I did I'd probably be in the same boat.Had to fix the damn thing myself and was out 200 dollars... be weary of the dealerships...

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i would do what the person said a could of posts up and you should call nissan corporate and ask them about the warranties, i think the menu options after you call them is 7 then 3 but don't take my word for it.

This is what happened with me. Brought my car to Nissan dealership they said it was gonna be 98 dollars to find out the problem blah blah blah, so i have them do it and it ended up being a micro switch according to the mechanic which was gonna cost another 30 bucks plus what ever labor costs. All of which i didn't want to pay so i was asking about the warranty and the service people said they weren't sure but they thought it would only cover the actual seat belt and not everything related to is.

So i called up Nissan corporate and spoke to some one about the warranties regarding my car, the lady i spoke to also wasn't sure and told me she was going to look it up. She also asked which dealership i brought my car to and i told her (i think she asked so she could informed them of their ignorance but im not sure) so i didn't get a call from corporate for an hour so i decided to call back the dealership and ask them to find out for sure if the seat belt was covered in my case. Funny thing is that he had already looked it up and it was indeed covered but the only downside was the part would take a week to get to there .

So in the end things did work out for me and although i don't actually know if corporate actually talked to my local dealership or not, but regardless i haven't received a call back from the corporate so i assume what i said earlier.

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I just unplug mine when I get out lol

Both the 240's Ive owned both had operating passenger shoulder belts and non-functioning driver side belts...

I just unbuckle when I get out and buckle when I get back in

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That may work for you but when it comes to inspection (at least in my state) they say that the seat belt needs to be functioning the way it was designed meaning i can't just jerry rig it in the rear position and unbuckle it when i want to get out


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