Pioneer AVIC- F90BT in dash Navi

[nami]

So I was about going to the autoshop to get my AVIC-D3 install today and this BEAUTIFUL package pop into my mail. Check this out if you plan to get ur in dash navi...

http://12vblog.com/2008/04/pio...f90bt/

PS: It's coming this month or early June....Woohoo...Cant wait.

[Leo2005]

Hmmm. Getting jealous. Thinking of selling my AVIC-D3X.

[kots]

they are selling this for $999

http://www.sonicelectronix.com....html

here is one of the cool things it can do:

Conversational Voice CommandLast but not least is the unique voice control technology built-in each of the AVIC-F units. You can now control what music you want to play without even the push of a button. You could simply say "Play artist Chris Brown" and it will play all songs with that artist. In addition, you could likewise do the same for hands-free dialing. What's unique about the voice command feature is its ability to decipher pausing words or fill-in words such as "ummm, uhhh... the uhhhh..." It will still recognize names even if you say "Call uhhh Alison" If phonebook entry Alison has more than one number, the AVIC-F unit will ask "Found three numbers for Alison, which would you like to dial?" It's almost like a SCIFI movie or something from iRobot. This breakthrough feature will definitely impress you and everyone else riding in your car!

[websfear]

they are selling this for $999

Not quite selling - they are on back order, so I guess they have not been released yet. Nice discount if it holds.

[AndyP]

mmmmmm......nice! But do any of these things mentioned on the Rogue forums play nice with the existing steering wheel mounted controls AND the 8 speaker Bose setup of the Premium package? I don't want 50Wx4, I want 50Wx7+1.

[philipa_240sx]

mmmmmm......nice! But do any of these things mentioned on the Rogue forums play nice with the existing steering wheel mounted controls AND the 8 speaker Bose setup of the Premium package? I don't want 50Wx4, I want 50Wx7+1.

Steering wheel mounted controls require an external interface like the Peripheral Electronics PESWIPS

http://www.peripheralelectroni...210#8

The BOSE system uses an external 7 channel amp plus a subwoofer with integrated amp. You could interface with the existing BOSE amps but it may require the use of line output converters. Someone who is an expert with BOSE systems might be able to answer this question better.

[nami]

Steering wheel mounted controls require an external interface like the Peripheral Electronics PESWIPS

http://www.peripheralelectroni...210#8

The BOSE system uses an external 7 channel amp plus a subwoofer with integrated amp. You could interface with the existing BOSE amps but it may require the use of line output converters. Someone who is an expert with BOSE systems might be able to answer this question better.

Philipa. Can you explain in more detail about how it could be done with BOSE system in the unit? I'm curious about it. If not, where can I ask for the BOSE expert?

[philipa_240sx]

I am no BOSE expert, but here is what I know:

The BOSE system uses balanced line inputs/outputs from the head unit to the BOSE amp. Most aftermarket head units and amps use unbalanced input/outputs. If you connect an aftermarket headunit to the BOSE amp, you may get very low sound levels, distortion, etc. The proper way to interface the 2 systems is to use a Line Output Converter or LOC. Peripheral Electonics and other companies specializing in audio interfacing sell them.

Installation:

Install a LOC on each of the 4 channel inputs to the BOSE amp: right front, left front, right rear, left rear. The BOSE amp will take care of splitting the signals to the various speakers including the subwoofer. There is also an AMP ON signal to power the BOSE amp. Most aftermarket headunits have a remote amp wire for this purpose. Also, use an aftermarket adapter to connect to the factory harness and simplify your wiring. This way you can always re-install your factory headunit.

As for steering wheel controls, the converter you need is specific to the head unit you will be using. Peripheral Electronics has a compatibility listing on thier website. See my earlier post.

And finally, you will loose the factory Bluetooth features. The AVIC-F90BT appears to have Bluetooth capabilites so it may not be a loss.

There are a few other posts regarding aftermarket stereo installs. Check out the Rogue Glossary sticky at the top of the forum for more information.

Good Luck!

[nami]

Philipa. Thank you for opening up my eyes. I will do more research on this before going after the Dash.

[AndyP]

And finally, you will loose the factory Bluetooth features. The AVIC-F90BT appears to have Bluetooth capabilites so it may not be a loss.Good Luck!

Oooooohh......like....totally BOGUS man!

Ahem!, anyways, is there a way around that? Will all the after market stereos kill bluetooth? I thought there was a special microphone somewhere for that. Is there no way to reconnect that if the replacement unit has Bluetooth?

EDIT: Also, looks like a single-disc unit on the F series (if the D3 is any indication). One would have to make MP3's of all their audio CD's and use a dual-layer DVD-R...........

[nami]

I hope the local guy where I will take my stuff get install, be able to somehow connect the bluetooth to my steering wheel.

@philipa: I'm having trouble locating threads with aftermarket stereo instal. Can you help?

[rogueboy]

I just installed the 900BT (the Pioneer version).

Its really slick, but just as buggy. Bluetooth has lots of issues, bootup takes a good 2 minutes (30 seconds before you can see the reverse camera)... and controls are slow to respond.

The indexing for the Ipod voice controls takes over 5 minutes. I just turned it off.

Pioneer claims they are working on a fix so I am holding out hope.

[ESP]

Holy thread revival Batman!!!Any updates on this HU? I've read reviews elsewhere, but I'd like to hear the input from fellow NICO folks too!

[kazzan11236]

to me the best dash unit is the eclipse 6,000 or 7,000

i havent really experienced any better... personally...

[metfan22]

DON'T BUY THIS UNIT. IT IS FILLED WITH BUGS AND THE FIRMWARE UPDATE DOES NOT SOLVE THE ISSUES!!!!

[rogueboy]

Wow - did you get one too?

I hate mine.

[metfan22]

Yes I did. I had it for three miserable days . Each day it had a different problem. The bluetooth wouldn't work. You constantly had to repeat everything you said for the voice activation. It did not recognize my ipod touch . The only satisfactory working part was the cd. The navigation would yell at you when you went above the speed limit. The unit was not ready for the market . They put it on the market much to fast.

[garrad]

So I just bought the f90bt, I hear good and bad things about it. I tried it out in a store and worked pretty well, so I hope it's not too bad.

Either way I got it for a steal, $500, so not too bothered if it's not as good as I am expecting.

Does anybody have pictures of this installed?

Best Buy quoted me $350 for the install, (getting the HD addon also), but I'm thinking of doing it myself. Is it easy to work with?

[minitrucker]

so by getting this in dash nav installed will i still be able to keep the bose speakers and still have all the controls on my steering wheel as well as my blue tooth or do the upgrade do i loose all that?

[garrad]

I don't have the Bose unit, but from what I gather you will have to purchase something extra to let the bose speakers work with the unit.

Steering wheel controls also require an adaptor, I read somewhere on the forum the details, do a search you should find it.

As for bluetooth, the avic unit has it's own bluetooth system, so you will need to reconnect the phone to the head unit.

[takeshi]

The BOSE system uses an external 7 channel amp plus a subwoofer with integrated amp. You could interface with the existing BOSE amps but it may require the use of line output converters. Someone who is an expert with BOSE systems might be able to answer this question better.

Has anyone been able to confirm if line output converters are needed for those replacing the head unit in a Bose-equipped Rogue?