pfc369
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2007 Versa sl/ cvt
sunny california ca
4-7-2007
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| « Re: timing belt question (kam472) | 7:12 PM 5/6/2008 |
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chain
2007 versa sl /cvt / abs
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bigdog
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2007 versa s 2007 xterra 1982 dodge truck
burlington nc
7-24-2007
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| « Re: timing belt question (pfc369) | 8:21 PM 5/6/2008 |
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if anything it shouldn't need changing till over 100k miles easily
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jmaclean
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2008 Nissan Versa SL
Golden Valley/ Minneapolis MN
1-14-2008
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| « Re: timing belt question (bigdog) | 10:22 AM 5/7/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by bigdog » | | if anything it shouldn't need changing till over 100k miles easily |
If it's a chain, I thought that it never needs changing!? But this raises another question, does the CVT belt have to be changed at some point?
(only have 4,000 miles on mine at this point) 
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biggie
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Timing Chains are usually 80-100k miles.No clue on the CVT stuff.
'93 S13 Coupe SE - Needs work, KA-T one day
'93 S13 Vert LE - Project #2?
'07 Versa SL 6MT - commuterTotalled '92 Coupe SE
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Ever Victorious
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Everett WA
8-2-2006
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| « Re: timing belt question (jmaclean) | 12:51 PM 5/7/2008 |
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Yes, the CVT innards will eventually need to be replaced. Save a LOT of money, because it's not as easy, neat, and tidy as replacing a timing chain.Remember... Subaru's first CVT, when they failed, were 9 times out of 10 replaced with a manual transmission because the refit was cheaper than the repair.
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IMHungry
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2008 Versa SL H/B cvt, sport, tech (mine)/2007 Versa S H/B, VOP, 4 spd auto (hers)
Lynden Ont
3-18-2008
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According to Nissan, cvt has an indefinite lifespan. Fluid should be getting checked starting at 160,000km.
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keanucosmo
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Stone Mountain ga
3-29-2007
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| « Re: (biggie) | 6:07 AM 5/8/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by biggie » | | Timing Chains are usually 80-100k miles. |
Timing Chain replacement is not listed anywhere in Versa maintenance schedule. They are usually a replacement item when a engine overhaul is done, but not a maintenance item. I've driven cars with timing chains over 200k miles with no problems.
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MinisterofDOOM
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| « Re: timing belt question (kam472) | 6:43 AM 5/8/2008 |
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Generally timing chains don't ever need replacing unless something goes wrong or the engine isn't maintained properly. And even when timing components do fail, it's usually other components like guides and not the chain itself that are the problem.
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biggie
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7-24-2002
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Yall apparently aren't use to KA 240s then. The chains need replacing on them or your motor will get screwed.Maybe other motors aren't much of a problem.
'93 S13 Coupe SE - Needs work, KA-T one day
'93 S13 Vert LE - Project #2?
'07 Versa SL 6MT - commuterTotalled '92 Coupe SE
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my_new_v
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2008 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner
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1-2-2008
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| « Re: (biggie) | 11:44 AM 5/8/2008 |
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My 93 had the KA and it had over 130k miles on it and the timing chain was never touched and it was my daily driver/track racer
1993 240SX - Traded 
2007 Versa - Sold 4/25
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biggie
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7-24-2002
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| « Re: (my_new_v) | 11:49 AM 5/8/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by my_new_v » | | My 93 had the KA and it had over 130k miles on it and the timing chain was never touched and it was my daily driver/track racer |
You were taking a chance though, hardly know anyone who doesn't change the chain on KAs after 100k miles. It is actually recommended service on 240s. Again, apparently the Versa is different.
'93 S13 Coupe SE - Needs work, KA-T one day
'93 S13 Vert LE - Project #2?
'07 Versa SL 6MT - commuterTotalled '92 Coupe SE
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my_new_v
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2008 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner
Glendale AZ
1-2-2008
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| « Re: (biggie) | 11:54 AM 5/8/2008 |
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Maybe Im getting lucky with cars lol. Cause the chain on the 240, the transmission on the V, waiting to see if I get lucky with my truck now lol.
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2007 Versa - Sold 4/25
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brucek
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ottawa ontario
5-2-2008
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| « Re: (my_new_v) | 3:44 PM 5/8/2008 |
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| Quote » | | Generally timing chains don't ever need replacing . |
Exactly correct. Belts have various schedules from 100K to 160K, but a chain is generally known to last the life of the vehicle. It is not a maintenance item. brucek
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IMHungry
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2008 Versa SL H/B cvt, sport, tech (mine)/2007 Versa S H/B, VOP, 4 spd auto (hers)
Lynden Ont
3-18-2008
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'89-'90 240SX had a problem with timing chain guides if memory serves me. '91 and had the twin cam engine and were fine.
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Ever Victorious
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'07 Versa SL HB, '64 Rambler American
Everett WA
8-2-2006
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| « Re: (IMHungry) | 8:06 PM 5/8/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by IMHungry » | | According to Nissan, cvt has an indefinite lifespan. Fluid should be getting checked starting at 160,000km. |
That's what every manufacturer will tell you about every transmission.
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my_new_v
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2008 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner
Glendale AZ
1-2-2008
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| « Re: (IMHungry) | 6:21 AM 5/9/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by IMHungry » | | '89-'90 240SX had a problem with timing chain guides if memory serves me. '91 and had the twin cam engine and were fine. |
True....so maybe it was just the KA24E's with the timing chain problems.
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MinisterofDOOM
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| « Re: (biggie) | 6:53 AM 5/9/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by biggie » | | Yall apparently aren't use to KA 240s then. The chains need replacing on them or your motor will get screwed. Maybe other motors aren't much of a problem. |
That's what I was referring to in my above post. It's not the chain itself that's the problem. It's the guides for the chain which fail and can lead to chain failure (either by wearing against the block or jumping from excessive slack). The chain itself would be fine if the supporting hardware didn't fail. | Quote, originally posted by my_new_v » | True....so maybe it was just the KA24E's with the timing chain problems. |
Actually, it wasn't. There were other Nissan engines (especially the VH45DE) that had the same problem.
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|The Q| - |The Maxima|
Who will provide the Grand Design? What is yours and what is mine?
'Cause there is no more New Frontier; we have got to make it here.
We satisfy our endless needs and justify our bloody deeds
In the name of Destiny. And in the name of God.
-The Eagles, The Last Resort
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biggie
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(2)93s SE coupe/LE vert / '07 Versa SL 6MT
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7-24-2002
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| « Re: (MinisterofDOOM) | 7:25 AM 5/9/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by MinisterofDOOM » | | Actually, it wasn't. There were other Nissan engines (especially the VH45DE) that had the same problem. |
The top guide breaks on the KADE as well, most just remove them and Nissan stopped putting them on the S14 KAs.
'93 S13 Coupe SE - Needs work, KA-T one day
'93 S13 Vert LE - Project #2?
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my_new_v
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2008 Toyota Tacoma X-Runner
Glendale AZ
1-2-2008
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| « Re: (MinisterofDOOM) | 9:06 AM 5/9/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by MinisterofDOOM » | | Actually, it wasn't. There were other Nissan engines (especially the VH45DE) that had the same problem. |
I was referring more to the KA engines. lol What car has the VH45DE?
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2007 Versa - Sold 4/25
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Ever Victorious
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| « Re: (my_new_v) | 9:40 AM 5/9/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by my_new_v » | I was referring more to the KA engines. lol What car has the VH45DE? |
I'd guess the Q45, just off the top of my head...
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