Mazworx adapter issue

[craigztoyz]

Modified by craigztoyz at 9:56 PM 6/18/2008

[z1 zonly]

My engine is still on the stand, so I haven't yet checked the block fitment, but if it's off you can bet the first thing I'll be doing is calling Mazworx. If I spent over $500 getting this little chunk of aluminum, it needs to be right.

[tmorgan4]

I don't understand your issue completely, but every hold on mine lined up PERFECTLY. How many large holes (the ones that bolt onto the engine) have? 5 or 6?

[craigztoyz]

Here is a few pics.

Yes there is a major issue. Hole # 2 from the left, is made to low. he countersink is about 3 mm to low, and the hole itself is about 2mm too low.CANNOT get bolt in hole, at all. too shave hole to fit, then the bolt head will hit the countersink. Just F*****n great. But I could use it as is, without one of the main bolts in it, but I am not going to since Money was exchanged.

And here is one of my eng.

[tmorgan4]

You know what....I think I might have had the same issue now that I think about it. The threads in that hole got all messed up, probably because the bolt wasn't allowed to thread in straight. Makes sense now.

I had to go through a couple sockets before I found one that fit in the adapter. Obviously the thick-wall impact sockets don't fit, but I managed to find a 19mm 3/8" drive Craftsman socket that had a very thin wall and fit fine.

Good luck!

[T45]

Engine looks sick!

[Mettler]

Hmmm, why would the hole location be out, if it was CNC machined? Unless the workpiece moved slightly during the machining op?

All you guys with polished engines are gonna be gutted when the aluminium eventually starts to oxidise & ruin your nice finish.

[z1 zonly]

All you guys with polished engines are gonna be gutted when the aluminium eventually starts to oxidise & ruin your nice finish.

That, sir, is why they make wire brushes for drill chucks.

[craigztoyz]

That, sir, is why they make wire brushes for drill chucks.

Worried a little about that, but there are ways to touch it up once in a while. All it took to take this engine from stock to this was about 30 hours of elbow grease, and $10 for steel wool, in 4 coarses.

Back to topic, I spoke with Mark, he is getting me a new piece, and is looking into the problem, two were cut that day, waiting to see whats up with other. Problwm had to be a # issue, not a movement = it was not the last hole drilled, and all the others are good.

I can get my craftsmen socket to fit in the countersink, but not the impacts. the issue hole, cannot be used with out extending the countersink too.

[SuperHatch]

Just for the heck of it I would throw the trans on without that bolt in the block just to make sure there aren't any issues with the trans holes too...

[z1 zonly]

Worried a little about that, but there are ways to touch it up once in a while. All it took to take this engine from stock to this was about 30 hours of elbow grease, and $10 for steel wool, in 4 coarses.

Ehh, I got similar results with the aforementioned method. Probably put half an hour into the front covers, maybe an hour and a half in the plenum (although I didn't know what I was getting into or I wouldn't have touched it).

Plenum-less:

Back to topic, I spoke with Mark, he is getting me a new piece, and is looking into the problem, two were cut that day, waiting to see whats up with other. Problwm had to be a # issue, not a movement = it was not the last hole drilled, and all the others are good.

Good to know action is being taken. Please keep us updated.

[craigztoyz]

Just for the heck of it I would throw the trans on without that bolt in the block just to make sure there aren't any issues with the trans holes too...

Already did that. Am using it for mockup and all till new one gets here.

Z1 Imagine the valve covers........ that is where it took a night a piece(10ish till sunrise) and a few beers. then I had to go and polish on them for a few hours. Way too mush work, but for the pics I will take, of the swap, it will be worth it.

[T45]

http://www.shopxr.com/showprod...10050

[craigztoyz]

Does it not Yellow?

That is what I was looking for, but had not yet applied myself.

Want to find something that does not yellow or crack from heat.

[npez]

Craig,

I'm pulling my motor off the engine stand today and will let you know if my piece (machined at the same time) has the same issue; if tmorgan4 reports that his did as well, I don't feel like the statistics are working for me though.

I'll post my findings a little later today......

Engine looks great BTW! can't wait to get mine cleaned up and powdercoated (haven't decided on color yet or if I'll polish and clear powdercoat)

I'll talk to you later today......

Thanks,Nick.

[npez]

Craig,

I tried mine, same issue. Mark from Mazworx was super nice about everything and like you he's going to make me another one as well and send out (it will be a week to week and a half before they tool the CNC back to aluminum though - they're cutting steel now) - it is indeed a #s issue with the CNC program. He'll fix it and cut us new ones. For the time being he said we can mount with 1 less bolt and then replace with the new ones once we receive them.

Thanks,Nick.

[craigztoyz]

Thanx Nick, SUX to wait. especially to have to pull it out again and do it. Oh well, comes with the project. Craig

[darinz]

It is a real ***** to have a problem with something you've paid good money for. BUT it is really good to see a manufacturer that has just said "no problem, our fault, we'll replace asap." I just wish everyone did business the same. After all **** happens how it is dealt with decides wether it is a problem or not.

[craigztoyz]

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Modified by craigztoyz at 9:57 PM 6/18/2008

[Chrispy300]

I have the same issues at work all the time, all you can do is keep slogging away at something else. It takes as long as it takes, sometime you have to just sit tight...

BTW engine looks tops!

[craigztoyz]

Thanx Chrispy, I have spent a few hours in the garage just looking at it. seriously.

Just gotta make the best of life, each and everyday. You never know what you have till you don't have it.

[Z Style]

Do you guys have to send back the mis-machined plates? I might be interested in scooping one up off of you guys for a discounted rate if you don't have to send them back. Email me at [email protected]

[npez]

Prodigy,

That won't be an option - the old plates will need to go back to Mazworx - Mark will be sending a UPS return label to ship them back - sorry. Not sure if Craig is aware of this or not.....

Thanks,Nick.

[craigztoyz]

Modified by craigztoyz at 9:58 PM 6/18/2008

[craigztoyz]

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Modified by craigztoyz at 9:58 PM 6/18/2008

[npez]

Craig,

Yeah he did mention it to me, but if there's no return UPS label I'm not going to make an extra effort to return it. If after we get the new adapters they don't want it back you can have mine - I won't have any use for it.....

Thanks,Nick.

[craigztoyz]

Modified by craigztoyz at 9:59 PM 6/18/2008

[Z Style]

Well keep me posted or I will try to stay in tune with you guys if you don't have to send them back and are willing to part with one.

[npez]

That's my daily driver. Originally I was going to sell the Z and and use the proceeds to build up the M3 - basically 500HP turbo kit with methanol injection. Then the Z blew and I had to figure out what to do. So versus going that route I decided to keep the Z and do the project I'm on now. The turbo kit for the M3 was outrageous in cost anyway ($18K and they recommended they do the install due to the electronics which is extra $$$) and if something went wrong with the S54 motor then I'd be in pretty deep.

I think all and all the M3 is fine the way it is; it's fast - no screamer but dynamics are great and feels like its chiselled from a block of steel! The Z was and will be again, a much faster car; so as I only have 39K on the M3 I'm probably just going to do cosmetic type things to it (I bought carbon fiber interior trim panels that have yet to be installed) and maybe an audio system (it's sitting in my closet).

Thanks,Nick.

[craigztoyz]

UPDATE

Well, It has been over a month, He said I would have a new piece in a few days, then told Nick, it'd be a week or week and a half. 2 days ago I get an Email saying " I found that if you oval the hole you can make the bolt work. I will give you 25 off your nex order." First, of all, I tried ovaling it out, the countersink is not big enough to accomadate for the oval, and you cannot get a socket on it, craftsmen thin socket, or any of the 5 I have of that size. SO it would have to be ovaled on the counter, F that, I paid 500 for this to fit perfect, or as the ad says, to the highest quality.Second, I F'd up the threads in my block on that hole trying to put the bolt in, not knowing at first that I had bought a less then stated quality piece that didnt line up. So I have to straighten out the lower side of all the first 4 threads.Third, What makes hinm think that I will be purchasing or recccomending his items after the fitment, and the customer service.

AND I AM STILL SHORT 1 BOLT FOR IT. in the sealed bag was only not enough bolts????

So I when I called, He said he will send me a new one, that will fit. If It does not, you all will know, and I will steer all away from this item. I worry becasue Nick told me yesterday that he was todl my Mark that it is only off .030. NOT MINE I am off .3 That is a big difference in a tight bolt hole.

My new bolts are gonna be here next week, and even if i have to oval the countersink myself, I will make it work, but for the money, it is supposed to fit right the first time, (if it is the highest quality, or even some CHINA crap) Or send me the correct one in a few days as he said he was, A MONTH AGO!!! Sorry for the Uppers. A llil ticked, F that, I am a lot ticked off. Craig