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spooled240
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  Did a few DIY'ers to my kouki..


I did the HD lip on the kouki, and propped the back of my hood up for ventilation. The total was less than 20 bucks

I mainly did these mods for the functionality but they ended up looking pretty damn good IMO.

before

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the lip is still pretty flimsy, but I will get a thin steel rod and push it through that small opening at the bottom (sorry if that didn't sound right lol) and I'll see how that works..



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 « Re: Did a few DIY'ers to my kouki.. (spooled240)


It definitely makes it look more aggressive, but did you have to prop the hood up so high. Your bay will catch a lot of dust.

EDIT: I put my hood back down for that reason. That pic in my sig is pretty old.



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yeah I tripped out when i first saw how high it was then I lowered it half an inch and it's as low as it gets with the bolts I got. I don't really care for dust, my engine bay already gets dusty as hell, I mainly did it to cool my brake m/c cuz the turbo is pretty close to it.
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Honestly that looks horrible, and extremely ricey.




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Quote, originally posted by tonynalli »
Honestly that looks horrible, and extremely ricey.

+1 for the hood. The lip is alright...




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i guess it kinda makes sense for the brake MC/turbo cooling...

but i think propped hood hinges are better suited for s13s.

s14s are supposed to be more clean flowing without abrupt jagged edges.

lips aiight though.



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Honestly that looks horrible, and extremely ricey.

+1

you made a potentially good looking car look like complete ***.

you fail.

and how the hell is any of that functional?

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Quote, originally posted by coreansurfer »

+1

you made a potentially good looking car look like complete ***.

you fail.

and how the hell is any of that functional?

Shimming the hood is actually very functional. It just happens to look like total crap on the S14.

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Quote, originally posted by assassin7420 »
It just happens to look like total crap on the S14.

the point i was trying to make with:

Quote, originally posted by tramp_drift240 »

but i think propped hood hinges are better suited for s13s.

Quote, originally posted by coreansurfer »

+1

you made a potentially good looking car look like complete ***.

you fail.

and how the hell is any of that functional?

you sound very dumb, and a little too harsh.

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Quote, originally posted by tonynalli »
Honestly that looks horrible, and extremely ricey.

says the guy with the 4x4. take that thing off any sweet jumps?




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says the guy with the 4x4. take that thing off any sweet jumps?

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Hey Spooled240 what is the brand of the home depot lip???? I been looking for something like it at my local one and cant seem to find it.

IMHO Koukis look best with the OEM lip. A straight through lip looks better on the Zenki. But since you like it, thats all that matters.





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Sedan Deville
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10-25-2007

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I need to do that hood modification. Looks good =)




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IMO i don't like either but then again it not my car and i don't have to drive it i would not have put rivets in my JDM bumper



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Quote, originally posted by coreansurfer »

+1

you made a potentially good looking car look like complete ***.

you fail.

and how the hell is any of that functional?

Is it just me or has the douche level risen a lot lately?





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 « Re: Did a few DIY'ers to my kouki.. (spooled240)


well it cost you 20 bucks.......... it looks like about a 20 dollar job.

think I would have left well enough alone, but w/e its up to you.

PS I dont think the hood prop thing would look even close to go on ANYTHING. a real cowl is one thing, but that looks like you just smashed your front end into something.



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 « Re: Did a few DIY'ers to my kouki.. (spooled240)


WOW you guys can be mean!
From what I read time and time again is that those "proped" hood do improve under hood temps but the rewards heavily out weight the work/matanence.

Plus better pictures of the front of the car would make for a better judgement of this lip, and ahh daylight is your friend



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WOW you guys can be mean!
From what I read time and time again is that those "proped" hood do improve under hood temps

nah not really, its not gonna do much but to show that you lifted your hood along with all the other 100000 honda guys out there. for the amount of function vs cop magnet, def not worth it. and the lip, is just cosmetics.
this is a definite case of looks>function




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PS I dont think the hood prop thing would look even close to good on ANYTHING. a real cowl is one thing, but that looks like you just smashed your front end into something.





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I'm still confused about why people prop their hoods and how it works....There's high pressure airflow going over the car, and low pressure under. Air likes to travel from high to low pressure, not low to high. So how can air be brought through the lower part of the bumper across the engine bay and flow out the back of the hood? Would this not mean that low pressure air would be going to high pressure air?? Is this even possible? Someone fill me in on how air would flow low to high pressure.....



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I'm still confused about why people prop their hoods and how it works....There's high pressure airflow going over the car, and low pressure under. Air likes to travel from high to low pressure, not low to high. So how can air be brought through the lower part of the bumper across the engine bay and flow out the back of the hood? Would this not mean that low pressure air would be going to high pressure air?? Is this even possible? Someone fill me in on how air would flow low to high pressure.....

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You missed your license plate in one of your pics.
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just wondering if anyone has come up with how air could go from low to high pressure yet? I'm still baffled.
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I'm still confused about why people prop their hoods and how it works....There's high pressure airflow going over the car, and low pressure under. Air likes to travel from high to low pressure, not low to high. So how can air be brought through the lower part of the bumper across the engine bay and flow out the back of the hood? Would this not mean that low pressure air would be going to high pressure air?? Is this even possible? Someone fill me in on how air would flow low to high pressure.....

About a year ago there was a huge discussion on this either here or on zilvia. In the end it seems like propping your hood like that might help a little when you're sitting at a traffic light. That functional "mod" is not helping you at all.

And why would you staple a $10 piece of molding to JDM bumper?




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well that makes sense, if you're gong under 10mph or stopped that it would help with cooling the engine bay, because heat rises and can escape much easier through a bigger opening like having the hood propped up in the back. But when moving the pressure is much higher on top of the car than under it and it would seem that air couldn't fight physics and go from low to high pressure.
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And why would you staple a $10 piece of molding to JDM bumper?

yeah, thats what bummed me out. Drilling holes in that nicley painted JDM front bumper

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The reason the hood prop works is the same reasons that planes fly, as air meets the nose of your car it has two choices of where togo, up over your car or under. Since the bottom of you car is realativly flat the air moves relativly undisturbed, the air that goes over the car has a longer distance to travel since it has to travel across the hood and over the cabin before it meets back up with the air that travelled across the bottom. In order to do this the air has to travel faster causing a drop in air pressure, couple that with the fact that as air enters your engine bay it has few places to leave, causing the pressure in your engine bay to rise slightly, since air will take the path of least resistance as it exits it will exit out the top where the hood is proped open and air pressure is reduced. While at idle the proping of the hood helps due to the fact the hot air rises since the hot air would normaly sit at the top of bay when the hood is closed it is allowed to escape once it is proped up

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Quote, originally posted by ken240sx »
well that makes sense, if you're gong under 10mph or stopped that it would help with cooling the engine bay, because heat rises and can escape much easier through a bigger opening like having the hood propped up in the back. But when moving the pressure is much higher on top of the car than under it and it would seem that air couldn't fight physics and go from low to high pressure.

a cowl-induction intake system orginated during the muscle car era and was combined with an enclosed plenum from the hinge edge of the hood that included the air cleaner and increased colder/more dense air flow to the engine, thus increasing horsepower. i do not understand the venting concept, since, as ken stated above, pressure is higher above the hood than within the engine bay.




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How about the haters try propping the hood up and go for a ride. put your hand out the window and if you dont feel hot air coming out from under your hood(which you will) then come in here and talk ****. GTFO and STFU
Day light pics please
I think the lip was a bad idea but w/e, its better than nothing
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As far as I'm aware, cowl induction works off the fact that the air will start to go downwards and swirl when you have a higher hood and a drop off before the windshield. Same effect happens after the air goes over your car and starts to swirl and meet with the lower pressure near your rear bumper. That drop-off is what I understand to be the creator of the airflow into the filter in cowl induction due to the rolling of the air caught between the back of the higher hood and the windshield. Now just propping up the hood for better shouldn't cause the air in the engine bay to exit there. The top of the car will still have much higher pressure than under the car. There shouldn't be a lot of airflow into the engine bay at all considering the air is going to take the path of least resistance as you said yourself. It's going to either go over or under the car. There is a radiator and condenser and possibly an intercooler disturbing airflow into the engine bay, along with a bumper that deflects most of the air to go around and over the vehicle. Air that goes under the vehicle will not raise up into the engine bay unless redirected by something. since the air will not really be moving much in the engine bay it should have a decently low pressure should it not?
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How about the haters try propping the hood up and go for a ride. put your hand out the window and if you dont feel hot air coming out from under your hood(which you will) then come in here and talk ****. GTFO and STFU

At low very low speeds and stopped it will happen. But I can do that and feel warmer air there anyway without a propped hood, because that area is heated by the engine.
I tried the hood prop at various heights and didn't see any noticeable difference in the heat the engine ran at when it reached operating temps. There was a noticeable difference when I went to a 25% coolant mix and water wetter. It changed by about 10 degrees consistently. You can't really tell if a 2 degree or so difference in temps is due to a different air temp, driving condition, or a hood prop... The temps are constantly changing by a couple degrees so I can't say that if my engine ran a couple degrees colder once or twice that it was because of the hood prop. I haven't had a noticeable difference in temps since it's been backs to stock hood height.
The only way I can see this actually working is if you made a cover/skid plate type of mod for the bottom of your engine bay to not allow air to travel out the bottom to low pressure, and force the air to build up more and more pressure and velocity from swirling that its only option is to escape out of the area between the hood and windshield. Even then, if there is a high enough pressure built up in the engine bay due to air not being allowed to move anywhere else, airflow INTO the engine bay will decrease dramatically because more air will choose to go around the radiator instead through it and end up either under or over/around the car.
This topic is giving me a headache.

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How about the haters try propping the hood up and go for a ride. put your hand out the window and if you dont feel hot air coming out from under your hood(which you will) then come in here and talk ****. GTFO and STFU
Day light pics please
I think the lip was a bad idea but w/e, its better than nothing

the lip is actually worse than nothing.

and people who are raving about their cars needing this extra cooling from something that doesn't even scientifically make sense, and looks ridiculous-need to realize that a ka/sr/rb doesn't run hot enough to even warrant it.

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Quote, originally posted by coreansurfer »

the lip is actually worse than nothing.

and people who are raving about their cars needing this extra cooling from something that doesn't even scientifically make sense, and looks ridiculous-need to realize that a ka/sr/rb doesn't run hot enough to even warrant it.


You have no idea what your talking about. I have a T3-T4 on my SR. After 20 minutes of normal driving i can light matches and cigarettes off the turbo with no problem what so ever.

Guess what the turbo sits right next to? Oh just the BMC. When you shim the hood it allows heat to escape instead of building up under your hood. When I had my black primer hood if it rained there would always be a dry spot on the turbo side. That and i can see heat rising from the hood when ever I stop.

Its not meant to suck in air, Its simply to let the bay vent better under low speeds or stops.

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actually, the air travelling across the back of the hood and then up the windscreen will create a low pressure spot at the opening of the rear of the hood, drawing the warm air out, and cooling it. dont forget that there is a ram air effect into the engine bay which will also help air travel through the bay.




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i mean the hood lift isnt to bad...just lower it more...i understand its to catch more air vent in and out...but however that front lip looks effin' disgusting...sorry for the hatred..come on now that's not an 86'



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I like it. I personally thing it might look better if the lip is painted the same color as the bumper since the lip is flat. Where can I find the lip in home depot



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You have no idea what your talking about. I have a T3-T4 on my SR. After 20 minutes of normal driving i can light matches and cigarettes off the turbo with no problem what so ever.

Guess what the turbo sits right next to? Oh just the BMC. When you shim the hood it allows heat to escape instead of building up under your hood. When I had my black primer hood if it rained there would always be a dry spot on the turbo side. That and i can see heat rising from the hood when ever I stop.

Its not meant to suck in air, Its simply to let the bay vent better under low speeds or stops.

i run an rb which are notorious for over heating, and i've yet to have any heating problems after 2 years of driving

what you need is a good radiator, good fan set up and good ducting, not some mickey mouse'd attempt at cooling.

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 « Re: Did a few DIY'ers to my kouki.. (spooled240)


I'm not feeling the cove base lip, and worse now the bumper looks like it has some holes. And as for the hood lower would look better, but like stated before I just don't get the hood in that fashion.

But the car is clean, and looks good.



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