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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 1:41 AM 4/27/2008 |
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pressure plate bolt?u got them right?and the nut for the clutch mc bolts go to home depo or a hardware store find what eva bolts on to it
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (YOUNG240SX) | 7:24 AM 4/27/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by YOUNG240SX » | | pressure plate bolt? |
I missed those when I did mine. Here's my recommendations.
- Bell housing bolts and nuts - Clutch hardline bracket & clip - Exhaust bracket that goes from tranny mount to cat - New throwout bearing - Rear main seal - Tranny front and rear seals - Weather/shifter boots I removed steering shaft and it was easy to swap brake pedal. Yes, use regular wrench for the drive shaft.
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okinawa drift

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4-8-2007
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (94_240sx) | 11:25 AM 4/27/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by 94_240sx » | I missed those when I did mine. Here's my recommendations.
- Bell housing bolts and nuts - Clutch hardline bracket & clip - Exhaust bracket that goes from tranny mount to cat - New throwout bearing - Rear main seal - Tranny front and rear seals - Weather/shifter boots I removed steering shaft and it was easy to swap brake pedal. Yes, use regular wrench for the drive shaft. |
hmm, can you use the a/t bolts to the belhousing? or do you need to get bolts from a m/t? and, are the seals hard to get off? do you need some special tool to get em off?
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3-11-2007
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 11:27 AM 4/27/2008 |
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Any more progress pix???
Project: Kontrollverlust

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BMAR240SX

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QUEENS NY
8-21-2006
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (pflicht) | 11:31 AM 4/27/2008 |
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 FS: Xenon lip pre-cut for front mount, with Canadian DTRL's and JDM Side Marker http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...marke
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darens13

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Springfield Or
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 11:34 AM 4/27/2008 |
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im gonna do a 5 speed swap sometime in the near future and i was curious, how much did all the parts cost?
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GeorgeZilla

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8-8-2007
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (darens13) | 11:35 AM 4/27/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by darens13 » | | im gonna do a 5 speed swap sometime in the near future and i was curious, how much did all the parts cost? |
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (GeorgeZilla) | 11:56 AM 4/27/2008 |
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everything cost me about.. hmm $400-500ishi'll be posting up more pics today!
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 12:05 PM 4/27/2008 |
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You can just pry the seals out. Someone said bell housing bolts are different and also new bolts are recommended. Forgot pilot bushing. Based on my experience, the hardest part was locating s13 clutch hardline and bracket. They have been discontinued. I searched for a week and found them. Other people told me to use Agency power braided line, but I don't think you can beat the feel of oem hardline.
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (pflicht) | 5:18 PM 4/27/2008 |
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 i just got pretty much everything i needed today for the 5 speed swap.. except a cross member, if im missing something let me know i am going to need to find someone selling m/t bellhousing bolts ..im lacking some tools though.. haha like a hole saw... lol
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 9:34 PM 4/27/2008 |
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hmm is the holes for the Master cylinder supposed to have that THING sticking out like that?should i rip that out? ... i already tried and bent the wall behind it slightly... wtf is that? this normal? 
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4-6-2008
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 9:42 PM 4/27/2008 |
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btw.... The rims actually don't look horrible....

| Quote, originally posted by ca18detgabby » | o well pancake bunny! |
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darens13

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1993 240sx, 1996 accord, 1949 dodge pickup
Springfield Or
12-28-2007
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 10:02 PM 4/27/2008 |
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well thats not too bad at all.| Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | | everything cost me about.. hmm $400-500ish i'll be posting up more pics today! |
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 12:04 AM 4/28/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | | hmm is the holes for the Master cylinder supposed to have that THING sticking out like that? should i rip that out? ... i already tried and bent the wall behind it slightly... wtf is that? this normal? 
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anyone know? lol
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spooled240
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I'm disoriented by that pic-I'm not sure what that is, is that on the firewall inside the car under the dash? If so I will look at mine and see if it has that "thing" sticking out, s13 and s14 should be somewhat the same...is this swap gonna cost you 4-500 for the grand total? If so that's not a bad deal, especially since s-chassis auto cars are usually at least a grand or two cheaper than m/t's. Very interesting!
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you NEED that... do NOT rip it out, for the love of god :D
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| « Re: (mrgreeneyes) | 12:26 AM 4/28/2008 |
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damn, i should of never touched that, its kinna damaged, but still on there 
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yeah don't rip your car to pieces, I was gonna say that metal piece doesn't look like something "useless", it looks too complex and must have a purpose for something. I still don't know how to look at that picture
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| « Re: (spooled240) | 12:53 AM 4/28/2008 |
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to the right is the steering column, and to the left which isnt in the picture is the fuse box.. then in front is the firewall.. haha
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 12:22 PM 4/28/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | anyone know? lol |
Check out my write up. They work as a guide for bolts that go from clutch pedal bracket to clutch master cylinder. http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...age=8
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 12:26 PM 4/28/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | 
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Remove the dampener line that's attached the lower portion of clutch hardline. Connect hard line directly to the slave cylinder soft line. From the picture, you are missing the weather boot and retainer for the shifter.
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (94_240sx) | 4:36 PM 4/28/2008 |
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****, your right... damnit, are those really important? or can i live with out themalso what kind of greese would you reccomend to use for the transmission seals, and pretty much everything that needs greese... multi purpose grease? also heres a pic of my clutch pedal.. damn


im missing that clip that goes in the hole under the white hole where the screw goes, if you know what im talking about... would my clip from my auto brake pedal fit ? also how much did it cost you for the new bushing? 
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 9:10 PM 4/28/2008 |
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| Quote » | | ****, your right... damnit, are those really important? or can i live with out them |
You mean weather boot? You need it for sure otherwise heat, smell, water and noise will get into the cabin and becomes very annoying. I have both lithium and multi purpose grease. I used multi purpose grease for all the seals and lithium grease for mechanical parts like release fork, throw out bearing...etc. They are pretty cheap. I bought a new clutch pedal which was about $40-50, but you can give it a shot of weld just like hijacker did. Problem is... that area is covered with grease, so people overlook it. Bushings are super cheap like a couple of bucks. You are talking about 'Clevis Pin.' Yes, you can use one from automatic brake pedal. They are same.
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (94_240sx) | 9:21 PM 4/28/2008 |
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oh ok, yeah i'll sneak into welding class tomorrow and give it a go with an arc welder.. hopefully it works and doesn't **** up my pedal.. lolhey man you have aim? you seem to have the answer to all my questions :D
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tecumseh michigan
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 10:00 PM 4/28/2008 |
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This is normal you need to leave that bracket there but cut out the metal around it in the shape of that indent there are 2 long bolts welded to the petal assembly they slide thru there i then you bolt the master cylinder to the petal thru the firewall | Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | anyone know? lol
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (fairzdrift) | 10:30 PM 4/28/2008 |
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alright,also in this pic is my dust cover missing? 
or is that bronze part the dust cover?
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1-1-2008
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 3:04 AM 4/29/2008 |
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Lookin' good so far. 

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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 6:30 AM 4/29/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | hey man you have aim? you seem to have the answer to all my questions :D |
Sorry, don't have AIM. Yeah, dust cover is there. That's 3rd different kind I've seen on s-chassis tranny. I found another missing piece. Where's the driveshaft? Driveshaft from automatic s13 won't work. I should have bought the bolts from this guy. I got mine from dealership and the longest bell housing bolt was no longer available. You can buy from hardware store, but I doubt the quality. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW I think I'll post a complete list of 5 speed swap parts in 5 speed swap thread soon.
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (94_240sx) | 8:12 AM 4/29/2008 |
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sweet! ahh i have a non abs 5 speed driveshaft already, i just forgot to put that in the pic!hmm, how much did a new pedal cost you.. just the pedal? .. im thinking about just going to the dealership and ordering new bellhousing bolts and new pedal plus bushing, spring and all that... oh and i think im missing the retainer spring to my transmission... where can i find one of those?
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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (okinawa drift) | 9:30 AM 4/29/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | | sweet! ahh i have a non abs 5 speed driveshaft already, i just forgot to put that in the pic! |
cool. | Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | | hmm, how much did a new pedal cost you.. just the pedal? .. im thinking about just going to the dealership and ordering new bellhousing bolts and new pedal plus bushing, spring and all that... |
I think it was like $40-50 including tax. I get some discount though. It's 46540 and some small stuff comes with it. http://www.courtesyparts.com/b....html
 Like I said, the longest bell housing bolt(75mm) is no longer available, so you have to get it from a hardware store. Check this thread for the bolts part numbers. http://my240.epijunkie.com/Aut..._body. | Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | | oh and i think im missing the retainer spring to my transmission... where can i find one of those? |
Is it 30534? If so, it's just a couple of dollars.

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| « Re: 5 speed swap in progress! (94_240sx) | 6:32 PM 4/29/2008 |
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oh wow $40 for the pedal, yeah i think i'm just going to try and repair mine.. haha if that fails then i guess i'll buy a pedaloh by the way what kind of paint did you use to paint your housings for your clutch and brake pedals? it looks good and did you sand them? or sandblast them? im using 80 grit to sand all the rust off mine.. but its a pain in the *** to get in the corners inside.. and i tested out my drive shaft to see if it would fit right.. since someone said the dust cover i have may be to an sr, and the ka drive shaft would not fit.. but it fit, its just there is a little gap so dust could still get in.. i guess i could just tape it for now.. haha


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i think 94_240sx has got it from here
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| « Re: (spooled240) | 8:06 PM 4/29/2008 |
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also i took off the damper
 so now do i just connect the hardline directly to the slave cylinder hose? like this
 haha heres the pedal housing.. pain in the *** to sand... still in progress :S 
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| « Re: (okinawa drift) | 8:51 PM 4/29/2008 |
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I used plain silver spray paint from Autozone. I just cleaned, roughly sand them and painted over. Yes, that dust cover doesn't belong to s13/s14 KA. I've never seen SR dust cover before and I know how it looks like now. You need to bend hardline like this to connect to the bracket and soft line. Be careful not to get a kink. Get Line Wrench from parts store. It's very useful. You won't strip the nut.
 Man, looking good so far.
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| « Re: (94_240sx) | 9:05 PM 4/29/2008 |
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you think i will be able to just live with this dust cover and just maybe tape over it to seal it?.. also when you bent the hardline did you just bend it or did you use some tool to bend it? i just used vice grips to take the nuts off worked really well, did you have to drill a hole in the frame to mount that braket? or is there a hole in the frame already? also can't exactly tell where you started to bend it... hmm
this the spot? 
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| « Re: (okinawa drift) | 9:55 PM 4/29/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | | you think i will be able to just live with this dust cover and just maybe tape over it to seal it? |
No, driveshaft will rotate, so tape won't work. Try to turn the driveshaft with your hand and see if it touches the dust cover. If so, you better remove it and get the right one. s13 dust cover is like $10 from the dealership. Or you can remove it. | Quote » | | .. also when you bent the hardline did you just bend it or did you use some tool to bend it? |
With hands... | Quote » | | did you have to drill a hole in the frame to mount that braket? or is there a hole in the frame already? |
All s13s have threaded hole for the bracket, so you don't have to worry about it. | Quote » | also can't exactly tell where you started to bend it... hmm this the spot? |
Yes, that's the spot. Install the hardline and bracket first and bend it. That's the best way to do it.
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| « Re: (94_240sx) | 10:26 PM 4/29/2008 |
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alright, damn bending the lines with your hands, thats scary haha... im thining about using a pole as a guide or something, but i'll give it a go with my hands when its in.. we'll see how it goes also what is better to use .. a 1 1/2 hole saw or 1 3/8 hole saw
also i was searching for parts does this look about right... im gonna write this down and take it to a local nissan dealership
Engine / Bellhousing Bolts Bolts = 08131-0601A / 60mm length / 4 needed ... $1.44 ea Washers = 08915-2401A / 4 needed
.. $0.26 ea Bolt = 08131-0701A / 70mm length / 1 needed
. NAPA Washer = 08915-2401A
.. $0.26 Bolts = 08124-0301F / 35mm / 2 needed
... $1.72 ea Nuts = 08911-2401A / 2 needed
$0.58 ea Bolt = 08124-0601F / 65mm / 1 needed
$1.85 Nut = 09811-2401A / 1 needed
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.. NAPA Bolt = 08071-0251A / 25mm / 1 needed
.. $2.86 ea Starter Bolts = 01121-03751 / 95mm / 2 needed
. $2.58 ea Bushings / Clutch Pedal Bush Pedal = [46530E]
$5.99 Bush Pedal = [46534]
. $6.06 Pad Pedal = [46530N]
$5.14 Spring Return = [46586]
$7.34
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| « Re: (okinawa drift) | 11:19 PM 4/29/2008 |
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looking good bro. keep up the good work
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| « Re: (okinawa drift) | 8:47 AM 4/30/2008 |
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| Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | also what is better to use .. a 1 1/2 hole saw or 1 3/8 hole saw |
1 1/2 is better. 1 3/8 hole saw is a little too small I guess. | Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | Nut = 09811-2401A / 1 needed
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It's not 08911. 08911-2401A is the right number | Quote, originally posted by okinawa drift » | Bushings / Clutch Pedal Bush Pedal = [46530E]
$5.99 Bush Pedal = [46534]
. $6.06 Pad Pedal = [46530N]
$5.14 Spring Return = [46586]
$7.34
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46530E, 46534, 46530N...etc. These are not part number. You should print out the diagram and take it with you to the dealership.
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