is it just me or does the 4th gem max has more power than the newer ones

[D_roc]

just drove a 1998 max was manual and every time i shift it feels like the engine is jumping up and around 3rd gear felt like the car was going to fly, the car is stock and i also drove his 2002 maxima it was manual too it was smooth but didn't felt the the 1998 felt

[tigersharkdude]

i have a 99 max now and my boy has a 2002. all i have is an intake and once my car hit third i was gone

[dr-rjp]

just drove a 1998 max was manual and every time i shift it feels like the engine is jumping up and around 3rd gear felt like the car was going to fly, the car is stock and i also drove his 2002 maxima it was manual too it was smooth but didn't felt the the 1998 felt

The 2002 Max has a 6-speed versus your 5-speed, and the gearing is entirely different, The 2002 Max also had 255HP & 246ft/lb torque vs. 190hp & 205ft/lb torque for the 1998. The 98 weighed around 220lbs less than the 2002 and stock wheels for the 2002 SE & GLE were 17" in diameter vs 15" for the 1998.

The bottom line is that the 4th Gen can beat the 5th Gen up to 60mph, but the 5th Gen trounces the 4th Gen in a standing 1/4 mile.

[Trav1s]

IMO the 00/01 (A33a) and 02/03 (A33b) are different beasts from each other, and certainly much different than the 95-99 (A32) models.

The VQ30DE- K in the 00/01 Maxima's are the same engine as the 4th gen cars WITH the VARIABLE intake and different tuning - the goal was to increase Horsepower numbers (which seems to be the seller for Americans) The quickest of the A33 (00/01) are the 5 spd GXE with 15" wheels, slowest are the SE with the 17" wheels (more rotational mass).

Those sweet 17" wheels really hurt performance at 45lbs min per tire/wheel combo.

As dr-rjp stated, the 02/03 (A33b) received the QV35DE and 6 spd manual. Different beast..

In general, based on my ownership experience of a 99 SE and 2k SE (with the 17" wheels) - the A32 fits the "Sport Sedan" ideal more than the A33. However, give me the A33 for any roadtrip. Open the VQ30DE- K or the VQ35DE and let them run.

[Sentientbydesign]

I completely agree.

I love my 4th gen. I drove an 01 a few years back and hated it. It was slower than molasses.

My 96 feels faster with 17s and way too many miles on it than that 01.

[D_roc]

the 4th gen only have 190hp, man thats impressive i thought it got more but driving it kinda felt like driving a 68 charger

[Trav1s]

I think the key to all is this is where the powerband sits on the VQ30DE V/S the VQ30DE-K

VQ30DE ---> 190 HP @ 5600 RPM 205 lb/ft @ 4000 RPM

VQ30DE-K --> 222HP @ 6400 RPM 217 lb/ft @ 4000 RPM

Add weight (vehicle and rotational mass of 17" wheel) along with an auto transmission that eats torque and it is no surprise the 00/01's can feel like a slug.

Let me assure you that an 00/01 SE 5 spd with 16" aluminum wheels feels very different than an SE auto with 17" wheels. The SE 5 spd with the 16's take the A32 Max to the next level of refinement, comfort and performance.

68 Charger with a 318, 383, 426 or 440?

[Av10sguy]

Ah just the thread i was looking for. I pulled this from Edmunds.com ". A power sunroof, heated seats and side airbags can be added to any model, while GXE and SE models can be equipped with a new Meridian trim package that includes heated seats with integrated side airbags. Select traction control for the SE or GLE and shazzam! You've got yourself a Z Edition' SO...Do all 01's have the high output 3.0 engine or just the anniv. Edition ones?

[dr-rjp]

Ah just the thread i was looking for. I pulled this from Edmunds.com ". A power sunroof, heated seats and side airbags can be added to any model, while GXE and SE models can be equipped with a new Meridian trim package that includes heated seats with integrated side airbags. Select traction control for the SE or GLE and shazzam! You've got yourself a Z Edition' SO...Do all 01's have the high output 3.0 engine or just the anniv. Edition ones?

Well,. how's this for one-upmanship: the 5th Gen I30 Limited had a smidgen more horsepower than either the regular I30 0r I30t, and the 5th Gen Max. I think it was only like 2HP.

We've been talking about stock rides w/o any mention of mods. I'd like to say that putting on an aftermarket Y-pipe on a 4th Gen will net you at least 10-15 extra HP. It's the best bang-for-buck investment you can make. Coupled with a cold air intake, you can add another 4 to 8HP.

However, it's not just the added horsepower, but the real kick in the pants you get off the line from the extra low-end torque that these two mods can add, even with an automatic.

If you drove my 98 I30, you'd swear I had a lot more HP than I'm supposed to have.

[Trav1s]

The 00/01 Max in GXE, SE and GLE form had 222 HP. The Anniversary Edition had 227 HP, 5 more than the other Maximas and the same HP/Tq ratings of the 00/01 i30s. I don't recall what the difference was other than the difference is caused by borrowing parts from the i30 for the AE Maxima. Other than that, the AE was essentially a trim package added to the SE model which included:- titanium 17" wheels (SE wheels in diff color)- Different shift knob (5 spd or auto)- Aluminum pedals (easily added to other models)- Aluminum door sill plates (again, easily added to the other models)- Body kit (front, side and rear skirts)- AE badging- If the AE had the 5 spd manual, they got a LSD and the SE got the open diff)

[dr-rjp]

Now I remember. The I30L was Infiniti's AE.

[Trav1s]

Now I remember. The I30L was Infiniti's AE.

I might be wrong but I though the I30Limited was a late 99 MY option to match the 99.5 Maxima SE Limited (got titanium faced gauges instead of the white faces, different badging and titanium colored) which was a quick attempt to get the 99 models to sell better before the 2K redesign came out....

[justjuiceit4]

I think the key to all is this is where the powerband sits on the VQ30DE V/S the VQ30DE-K

VQ30DE ---> 190 HP @ 5600 RPM 205 lb/ft @ 4000 RPM

VQ30DE-K --> 222HP @ 6400 RPM 217 lb/ft @ 4000 RPMh

I still to this day think the VQ30DE was underated for hp/tq at least a few examples I have driven.

[Dracolove]

The

The 00/01 Max in GXE, SE and GLE form had 222 HP. The Anniversary Edition had 227 HP, 5 more than the other Maximas and the same HP/Tq ratings of the 00/01 i30s. I don't recall what the difference was other than the difference is caused by borrowing parts from the i30 for the AE Maxima. Other than that, the AE was essentially a trim package added to the SE model which included:- titanium 17" wheels (SE wheels in diff color)- Different shift knob (5 spd or auto)- Aluminum pedals (easily added to other models)- Aluminum door sill plates (again, easily added to the other models)- Body kit (front, side and rear skirts)- AE badging- If the AE had the 5 spd manual, they got a LSD and the SE got the open diff)

The Annaversary Edition came with a 6speed manual.

Just thought id mention that

[Trav1s]

The

The Annaversary Edition came with a 6speed manual.

Just thought id mention that

Sorry friend, you are wrong. The VQ30DE-k NEVER came with the 6 spd manual. The AE got the 5 spd manual with VLSD or the automatic. Trust me on this, shortly after we purchased our 2k the AE cam out and I regretted not waiting for the AE, even an automatic version. This link gives the details of the AE Maxima: http://www.nissanhelp.com/Mode...n.htm

Quoted from the link above:Quote »... performance SE and the SE 20th Anniversary Edition, which includes all of the standard equipment of the SE model, but adds the SE Comfort and Convenience package, the 227 hp V6, viscous limited-slip differential, bright finish 17-inch wheels, a body spoiler package including side sills and a rear under-spoiler, Bronze-colored headlamp lenses, simulated brushed-metal interior trim, brushed metal-look shift knob finisher, drilled metal pedals, perforated leather (with the available Leather Trim Package) and special "20th Anniversary" badging. In addition, a special color is offered for the SE 20th Anniversary Edition - a highly chromatic Dark Blue. [/quote] The 6 spd has never been paired with the DE-k in the US market. The 6 spd came in the A33 line in 2002 with the VQ35DE when the Maxima got the mid production run refresh. A similar VQ35DE was used in the 2002-2006 Altima SE but they were backed with a 5 spd.