Has anyone tired any kind of alternitive fuel in the Q?

[1990QOwner]

Hi all!

Fuel has just gone up to over $100 per jug which means fuel prices are going to go up to $4 per gallon...I've been thinking about some sort of alternative fuel. I have been doing some re-search on it and just thought I would ask if any of you have tried it?

[bullittandy]

Watch the sh*tstorm begin!! If you really want to get people going, tell them you're thinking of substituting motor oil for something else!!!!!

[AlabamaDan]

Have you read how this group gets upset when you don't use premium?

[superuber]

I use CAM2. That's alternative, right?

[greenwar]

How about race fuel with 105 octane?

On a serious note - I sold my v8 cars seeing that fuel is going to become expensive. Possibly a good solution instead of trying alternative fuel in the Q.

[maxnix]

For power, I personally prefer nuclear fusion.

For tires, I prefer Michelin.

[qship96]

I once filled the entire tank with sunoco race unleaded-around 103 0ctane,cost about $130.00 for the fillup-had a few hundred bucks burning a hole in my pocket,thought why not experiment!

[Haitian_King]

How did that go?

I've been hearing about 100+ Octane. I thought it was a myth.

Was it worth it?

[NightRiderQ45]

Have you read how this group gets upset when you don't use premium?

So true so true! I use premium, but I filled up with 87 (one tank) on my way to Alabama last week just to see how my car would ride and there was NO DIFFERENCE in the way my car ran. My car didn't stumble, turn off, or any of the other things I've read on these post.

BTW, here is a question. I owned a Infniti J30 before I purchased my Y33 and that car required premium. However, the nissan 300z has the same motor as the J30, but the nissan required regular. Could someone explain why one car needed premium gas but the nissan, which has the same motor as the J30 required regular?

Before I get into a war about which gas I use in my car, it's Premium.
Modified by NightRiderQ45 at 9:10 PM 11/14/2007

[Jesda]

PREMIUM ONLY. NO ETHANOL IF POSSIBLE.

PREMIUM ONLY. NO ETHANOL IF POSSIBLE.

PREMIUM ONLY. NO ETHANOL IF POSSIBLE.

PREMIUM ONLY. NO ETHANOL IF POSSIBLE.

PREMIUM ONLY. NO ETHANOL IF POSSIBLE.

PREMIUM ONLY. NO ETHANOL IF POSSIBLE.

PREMIUM ONLY. NO ETHANOL IF POSSIBLE.

PREMIUM ONLY. NO ETHANOL IF POSSIBLE.

PREMIUM ONLY. NO ETHANOL IF POSSIBLE.

PREMIUM ONLY. NO ETHANOL IF POSSIBLE.

[greenwar]

So true so true! I use premium, but I filled up with 87 (one tank) on my way to Alabama last week just to see how my car would rind and there was NO DIFFERENCE in the way my car ran. My car didn't stumble, turn off, or any of the other things I've read on these post.

BTW, here is a question. I owned a Infniti J30 before I purchased my Y33 and that car required premium. However, the nissan 300z has the same motor as the J30, but the nissan required regular. Could someone explain why one car needed premium gas but the nissan, which has the same motor as the J30 required regular?

Before I get into a war about which gas I use in my car, it's Premium.

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I never put anything other than 92 in my Q. But in the I30 I put 89 once absentmindedly. Immediate loss of power was apparent. When I filled up with 92 at half tank I could immediately feel the difference in acceleration. Now I30 is nowhere close to a Q45. But I believe similar traits will be seen in a Q unless knock sensor is not doing its job of increasing timing when proper fuel is consumed.

Take my observations with a grain of salt. I am no expert.

[gammer_ghn]

Look into hydrogen boosters its a piggyback system which will not have bad effects with your car I am currently working on a system that will give me a bit of power and help me use a little less gas probably 5-6 more mpg and no I will have its own charging system with solar chargers so the Q will just receive Hydrogen and some more Oxygen and I wont be taking power from the Q so ya ill have the lab mouse Q and than if its works I will make one prototype and let another user try it for free someone like Wes, Brian or Q45 tech so you know its not bs but that’s a while from now im paying 3.75 for 91 = [

[mxr662]

Sometimes I use Shell Premium instead of Chevron Premium

[1990QOwner]

Wow guys, I was talking more of hydrogen or something similar. If you can separate it from water than you would have an unlimited source.

I don't plan on burning my food in my car. Hydrogen is also much cleaner burning.

[cccpman]

Wow... you know there are billions being spent on alternative fuels. the Q will not take ethanol for more then 10 seconds before destroying itself, it sure as hell isnt equipped for hydrogen, solar panels... yea I bet. Enough energy to move a 2ton tank around. The car is far too heavy to have any future in alternative energy. The reason some cars can be hybrids and some can run on this and that is because they were light, and built specifically for it. Go ahead and experiment, im sure you will find the missing link the 50,000 man scientist army missed

[RAP]

http://www.biodieselamerica.org or something like that.

Of course the resultant fuel will not be usable in the Q45 installed engine. Isuzuhas a V8 diesel engine, installed in GM trucks, that should fit? ? ?

After all you don't drive around, "looking cool" with the hood up so...

You should be able to produce your own fuel for around half-a-buck per gallon. Not a whole lot of technology involved either.

[maxnix]

Wow guys, I was talking more of hydrogen or something similar. If you can separate it from water than you would have an unlimited source.

I don't plan on burning my food in my car. Hydrogen is also much cleaner burning.

Know how much energy it takes to break the hydrogen=oxygen bond in water?

Know how little energy hydrogen has when it burns?

Gasoline with catalytic converters is pretty damn clean when combusted and a much more dense BTU source.

What we need is for someone to rediscover how the Nazis produced gasoline from coal after the Ploesti oil fields were bombed. Kept them going for over a year while under attack in constant war. Refineries are difficult to defend, expecially agains a cruise missile.

[Haitian_King]

I like going to the gas station, telling them to fill me up Premium, and watching their faces change. I also enjoy watching the pump and looking at newer cars than mine filling up on 87.

My last fill up though was $52. Most I've ever paid. Didn't mind it one bit though.

Muahahaha.

[96Qowner]

What we need is for someone to rediscover how the Nazis produced gasoline from coal after the Ploesti oil fields were bombed.

All we need is $5.00/gal gas. There's enough oil in the Canadian and American oil sands to fuel the entire world for another 100 years - just isn't economical enough at $3.00/gal or $80/bbl crude.

[1990QOwner]

I have a relative that does Hydrogen injection, it is supposto make you get 6-7 MPG better (including the cost of the hydrogen)

There is Hydrogen in water and there are several people who have cars that run off of water by separating the hydrogen out of it.

A while back there was a video on YouTube telling all about it, he had a few cars that he would fill up with water and he had spit all down the side of it saying "It runs on water".

So it is possible you just have to find an economical way to separate it.

[maxnix]

All we need is $5.00/gal gas. There's enough oil in the Canadian and American oil sands to fuel the entire world for another 100 years - just isn't economical enough at $3.00/gal or $80/bbl crude.

The Chinese are betting on it with their large stake.

Of course they easily overlook the enormous ecological damage done to extract it.

[1990QOwner]

What we need is for someone to rediscover how the Nazis produced gasoline from coal after the Ploesti oil fields were bombed. Kept them going for over a year while under attack in constant war. Refineries are difficult to defend, expecially agains a cruise missile.

Rediscover? It is re-discovered. IMO the Government is suppressing it. Go to YouTube and search "Magnet Motor" and it will amaze you what you will find.

[maxnix]

Rediscover? It is re-discovered. IMO the Government is suppressing it. Go to YouTube and search "Magnet Motor" and it will amaze you what you will find.

This does not have anything to do with synthetic fuels, nor is it amazing in the least to anyone capable of passing a General Science course.

[1990QOwner]

This does not have anything to do with synthetic fuels, nor is it amazing in the least to anyone capable of passing a General Science course.

My point was that the government does suppress stuff like efficient alternative fuels such as separating hydrogen from water.

[AlabamaDan]

Sometimes I use Shell Premium instead of Chevron Premium

Now that's what I'm talking about!

[maxnix]

My point was that the government does suppress stuff like efficient alternative fuels such as separating hydrogen from water.

I doubt it. Think how much energy the armed forces alone uses.

It's more physics than politics.

[RAP]

I doubt it. Think how much energy the armed forces alone uses.

It's more physics than politics.

IF, IMO had all the money expanded on the current two adventures, using the armed forces, had been devoted towards alternate fuels we would probably be self sufficient by now in this country, but...

But heh we got improved body armor, improved weapons, improved Humvees, all sorts of golly gee stuff so I suppose we shouldn't be too un-greatfull

I seriously that the Gov. is suppressing any alternate fuel technology including whatever the Germans/Nazis produced. Now maybe the Greens...

Jack

[Rex]

... BTW, here is a question. I owned a Infniti J30 before I purchased my Y33 and that car required premium. However, the nissan 300z has the same motor as the J30, but the nissan required regular. Could someone explain why one car needed premium gas but the nissan, which has the same motor as the J30 required regular?

Before I get into a war about which gas I use in my car, it's Premium.

Modified by NightRiderQ45 at 9:10 PM 11/14/2007

The way the car is tuned can dictate that. Wes' ECU requires Premium, or else the knocks will pick up enough "noise" to negate the additional power from the tune.

Also, you say the same motor, is it the same type of motor VG30DE, or was it the same motor down to the cams and compression ratio, etc?

[1990QOwner]

OK, I have been doing some research on "Hydrogen Injection" systems. This system does not replace fuel all together but makes your fuel burn more efficient.

All this machine does is separates the Hydrogen gas from water and injects it into your intake.

Is there any way this could harm your engine? They say that it is perfectly safe and will not even void a warranty.

Please tell me what you think. Thanks

[Haitian_King]

Many moons ago, I asked my chemistry teacher about using hydrogen and oxygen as fuel. Seeing as they are both highly combustible in their separate forms, I had an idea to fill a tank with water. He says that a powerful enough electrical current needed to pass through the water to break the hydrogen and oxygen bonds. I didn't know what to do after that.

I take it you need a bettery/generator powerful enough, but also lightwieght and able to be stored in an unobtrusive space. Would you need holding tanks to store the separated hydrogen and oxygen? Oxygen in a tank might be a bad idea if the car is left in the sun right?

I haven't really given much thought to fabrication. Just theory really.