Ball joints in the rear of an s13 hatch? or are they bushings?

[OM3GA]

Someone told a friend of mine that his ball joints were completely warn out in the back because of his suspension being too stiff and that if he were to replace them with new stock ones they would just get ripped apart....I did not know that there were ball joints in the back in the lower control arms? or where are they??? I looked at a few places for them but no where carries them or even has them in their computer...Thanks

[positron1]

Rear lower control arm ball joint, mine are in pretty bad shape.They don't sell ball joint replacements for the RLCA, you have to buy the entire arm but you can substitute a joint from a certain Sentra I think I read on here...somebody clarify this!

[boznuttz]

Sentra B13.

[JOESCHMID26]

no **** nissan sucks. would have been good to find that out before i put all poly bushing in the car. im going to see if its possible to use the front ball joints. btw that control arm is $123 from nissan... someone must make it it has a snap ring on it!

[rico05]

The ball on the B13 front ball joint is 1mm bigger than the S13, but the actual cylinder case fits right in. I have a set of TRW B13 front ball joints in the rear of my car right now.

[JOESCHMID26]

the the right balljoint to use for the rear of the s13 is the sentra b13? that would be from the front end?

[m tr4nch]

the the right balljoint to use for the rear of the s13 is the sentra b13? that would be from the front end?

yes. i have some laying around waiting to go in. the moog part number for them is K9449, cost around $80 for a pair.

[JOESCHMID26]

ok cool. yea i ordered the front balljoint and cam bolt and tie rod ends from rockauto i like the grease fittings on the balljoints. how do u post pics on here?

[rico05]

Yes. Front B13 Sentra ball joints fit the rear S13 LCAs.

Make sure you budget the ~$200 to rent the specialty tools to do this project. One set is to remove the ball joint from the spindle (or just use a BFH and risk damaging the spindle), and the other is to remove and install the ball joints themselves. Lucky for me I get to borrow them for free from work

[JOESCHMID26]

i have a proper balljoint splitter and a press. thanks man. how did u find out the b13 balljoint works?

[OM3GA]

I just tried the b13 ball joints today... And they do not fit... The casing does not fit in the LCA it stared to flare the part where the ball joint slides into... but the threads and everything fit in the spindle but it will not fit in the lca I dont know what to do now i need something that will fit...Does anyone know if the fronts are the same as the back?!?!

[downshift180]

doesnt blow because of stiff suspension.

but because of age.

just get new ones.

[OM3GA]

Get new what? Have you tried looking for rear ball joints? Non-Existant... Unless they are the same as the front?!?!!?!

[JOESCHMID26]

man i havent had the time to actually install them in my car but if u read the entire post i believe he said they is a 1mm difference somewhere in there thats about .038 inches thats alot. if u have a set of calipers do me a favor and save me some time tell me what the stock balljoint size is ill have the moog 9449 put in the lathe and cut. once i know it works ill let u know. since u already have the ball joint out go to the junkyard and get a control arm put it on ur car for the time being if u nedd to drive it.

[JOESCHMID26]

btw those control arms r like 130$ a piece and i would have replaced them 4 all the trouble if i hadnt cut out the bushings and put polyurathane in already.

[OM3GA]

The ball joints from an 89 nissan sentra from the front lca's fit directly into the rear lca's nothing has to be done to them.

[sip]

^ ^ Would this be different for a Hicas car?

[silpena]

no no differnce for hicas car, by the way guys... anyone heard of those adjustable ball joints/ roll center adjusters? seem pricy for joints like 135$$.

[JOESCHMID26]

yea that for the top control arm its for when u lower ur car too much so u can adjust the camber. so ur telling me that the moog 9449 fit right in? what was that guy trying to put in?

[silpena]

so how do those ball joints help adust roll center they look regular ball joints to me.

[JOESCHMID26]

who ever said that they do? the reason to replace them is the boots r torn and cant be replaced. roll is what sway bars r for.

[JOESCHMID26]

my question is do they moog 9449 ball joints fit? what ball joints was the guy using who said the sentra joints dont fit?

[gripstr]

Any one try the altima's at all?

[OM3GA]

my question is do they moog 9449 ball joints fit? what ball joints was the guy using who said the sentra joints dont fit?

The one who made the post said that they dont fit lol. I Said the 93' Sentra ball joints that i bought do not fit but if you have ball joints for an 89' Nissan sentra they do indeed fit because those are the ones i have in right now.

[silpena]

i know all about camber adjustmento, and the sway bar etc. is these damb ball joints i see on ebay and an acutal site that sell's ball joints for the front and the back. they sapposley correctly the roll center or geomtrey after lower the car. Idk how it does that....

[naed240sx]

Yeah some ball joints relocate the pivot point which results in a change in roll center height. This is good for handling on lowered cars.

[OM3GA]

Would you like to post a link on where you saw these? Sounds interesting.

[JOESCHMID26]

so ur saying that moog k9633 is the right part number? front 89 sentra 1.6

[OM3GA]

I guess man if thats what came up... I didnt use the moog parts i used Mcquay Norris. The moogs im sure are better so as long as they are for an 89' nissan Sentra's Front LCA's then they will fit directly in the 240s rear LCA's.

[APL]

If it were me, I would just buy a new arm. Saves the hassle.