Thinking of importing a Rogue from the US into Canada?

[Msdarkdiva]

You may want to start your research here:

http://www.riv.ca/english/html...efore

I haven’t added up all the taxes, duty, inspection costs etc; however the potential amount of savings is enticing (even with the extra effort)!

Officially, Nissan Canada says it won’t play nice honoring vehicles with a U.S. warranty but perhaps local dealerships may not care (business is business after all).

I heard rumors that if a Canadian Nissan dealership charges you for services while your vehicle is under a U.S. warranty you can send the charges to Nissan USA for a refund. I don’t know if this is true but it may be worth looking in to! Has anyone else heard of this or started taking the preliminary steps of bringing a Rogue into Canada??

[exeunt]

I will be buying one in the near future from the US. Just waiting for my financing to be approved.

50% of dealers won't sell to you.25% of dealers say that warranty is void25% of dealers say that they'll service your car at their dealership

Nissan USA's terms and conditions for warranty indicate that if you import a Nissan to Canada from the US less than 6 months after original purchase your warranty is void.

I've been looking into third party warranties, as some companies offer it, but I'm not sure if its worth it yet. I'm speaking to one dealership, and if they put the warranty service in writing, chances are I'll purchase through them despite the fact that they're charging $1000 more than the guy down the street who says the warranty is void.

Still, when you add it all up, I'm saving around $8000.

[Msdarkdiva]

Nissan USA's terms and conditions for warranty indicate that if you import a Nissan to Canada from the US less than 6 months after original purchase your warranty is void.

Talk about making you work! LOL!

So let me get this straight- You’re planning on purchasing your Rogue in the US and will be getting it serviced in the US under warranty (is that’s what you are trying to get in writing)? Or, are you trying to get a dealer here in Canada to service it under warranty?

Thanks for the info!

[exeunt]

Apparently some Canadian dealerships will service your warranty (they make money on it afterall), but some won't because they don't want to promote US shopping.

I'm trying to get in writing that the US dealership will service my warranty so that if anything huge goes wrong with the Rogue I can take it back there. If its something small that costs $200, then I might as well get it fixed here and pay for it.

The other option is Secure Warranty, which will sell me a third party "pre-owned" warranty (due to Manufacturer warranty being void). The prices for this are between $2000 and $3400, for between 2 and 4 years, depending on coverage. This would mean I'd be able to service it in any Canadian shop.

My US friend hasn't gotten back to me about putting the warranty in writing, so I may have to go with the third party warranty.

[Msdarkdiva]

Here's another informative site on this issue for Canadians:

http://www.carburner.com/index.php?title=Main_Page

There has also been another lawsuit filed, this time in the US, by a Canadian couple from Nfld. which seems very interesting.

http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/Arti...ories

I think I'm going to wait for a little while (wouldn't hurt to save some more $$$ in the meantime) and see how this plays out.

By the way, the Loonie soared to an almost 50 year high this afternoon... trading at 105.04 cents U-S!

[Barney]

Well, keep us informed of how it goes - I am looking at doing the same in BC after comparing the prices between the two countries it makes no sense to get one in Canada if there is something that can be done about the warranty. I have been waiting two months for an order for a Ford Escape Hybrid to be filled and I am just out of patience - looks like Nissan USA might benefit from this!

[Barney]

Talking to a dealer in Oregon (no sales tax), and regarding the warranty they said:

Your warranty is provided by Nissan North America, not Nissan USA. I have been told by my Canadian customers that the warranty is valid unless you change registered owners and register the vehicle in another country. The key word in contractual law is the "and", meaning both these conditions must be met to invalidate your warranty.

I guess that it is down to finding places in Vancouver that will service the warranty then? anyone have any experience on this?

[exeunt]

From what I hear, its different from dealer to dealer. I'm tempted to bring my Rogue home, rip my gas cover off by the hinge and take it in to see if they'll service me

I know the warranty manual I read indicated something along the lines of "The warranty is null and void if brought into Canada for more than 60 days in a 12 month period". Who knows, perhaps its all smoke and mirrors to prevent you from crossing the border.

If not, then I'll probably be purchasing a replacement warranty. I'm still on the fence. I'm going to be putting a down payment on a Rogue tomorrow. Wish me luck!

[Barney]

Well, looking at page 8 of 56 an example 2007 warranty:

http://www.nissanusa.com/pdf/w...y.pdf

The 60 days out of country limit is both US and Canada, so if you took it to Mexico for a couple of months you would have trouble, but Canada? No worries. However, I would look at your specific warranty - I think my two week countdown has started.

[Msdarkdiva]

I am looking at doing the same in BC after comparing the prices between the two countries it makes no sense to get one in Canada if there is something that can be done about the warranty.

The price is one thing; also having the ability to break it down and choose what options I want in a U.S. Rogue is great! For instance you can select leather or cloth seats (with different color choices) in the U.S. AWD vehicle. In Canada you don’t have the luxury of choice, aside from 1. bare bones base or 2. pimped out SL!

I'm going to be putting a down payment on a Rogue tomorrow. Wish me luck!

LUCK! We're rooting for you Exeunt!

[lozen13]

I will be pulling the trigger on a new Rogue in Vegas and taking home to Edmonton next week. Nissan lies about everything. When you get back phone them to register the vehicle for the warranty if it comes up. If they tell you no or anything ask them to open a file up and give you a file #. Immediately they will change there tune. My problem only fully loaded one I could find was the Graphite one and still not sold on the color. May go fora loaded one without leather and heated mirrors.. I will detail my experience in two weeks.

[Barney]

Just got off the phone to Nissan Canada - they told me that they have been advised by Nissan N.A. that they WILL honour the warranty of an imported US 2008 Rogue provided that the vehicle has been registered and titled in the US first. She also warned me that RIV may have an issue with the Rogue immobilizer, but it is not listed as an inadmissable vehicle - anyone shed any light on this?

On another note took an SL AWD for a test drive today and I am so getting one - the date of November 17th has been circled in my calendar.

Good luck to you all, and keep us informed of how it goes!

[lozen13]

Call back and ask for a file #. I heard same thing from Nissan Canada and when you look in the brochure it has a immobilizer. So I think they are making that up. I spoke to RIV and they say the Rogue is fine.

[lozen13]

Pulled the trigger and made the purchase tonight.

Gotam Grey Loaded other than leather

[exeunt]

I've called the RIV as well, and they indicated that the Rogue is admissible to Canada.

The warranty issue I'm still all confused about. The 2008 warranty information booklet states:

Quote »This warranty is generally transferable from the original‘owner other than a Nissan dealer’ (OWNER) tosubsequent owners of the vehicle at any time ownership ofthe vehicle is transferred, without any action on your part;except that this warranty is not transferable but is insteadvoid if during the fi rst six months after delivery to the originalOWNER: (1) ownership of the vehicle is transferred fromthe original OWNER, and (2) the vehicle is registeredoutside of the United States.[/quote]Indicating it has to be transferred from the original owner. However:

Quote »This warranty is provided to the original and subsequentowner(s) of a Nissan vehicle originally distributed by Nissanwhich is originally sold by a Nissan authorized Nissandealership in the United States, and which is registeredin the U.S. and normally operated in the United States(including Alaska and Hawaii), the United States territories(specifi cally Guam, Saipan, American Samoa, Puerto Ricoand the U.S. Virgin Islands), and Canada.[/quote]Indicates that it has to be registered in the US.

I have a feeling that the people at Nissan are equally confused about whether warranty will be valid or not in this situation.

My salesrep was off yesterday, but he's available today so I'll be putting down my deposit.

[exeunt]

Deposit is down. I'll be picking mine up on the 12th.

[lozen13]

14 th for me If you have any questions let me know

What type do you end up getting and paying.

I got Gotham Grey AWD Moonroof Premium Package including Bluetooth and Bose Sound System for $26,250 US. Nothing extra.

Im excited and screw the CDN dealers.

[Barney]

Ah nuts. "Trouble at the mill", i.e. job issues, are having to put this on hold for a couple of weeks. Hopefully it will all get sorted before the end of the month and I can still get one in time for xmas.

Best of luck with your imports guys!

[exeunt]

"Phantom White" or "Glacier Pearl" (does it change when you cross the border? ) Rogue AWD SL + Premium + Bumper protector + Moonroof + Crossrails + Carpets + Splash guards

MSRP $26,140Purchased $25,140 US + $65 in fees

That's about $23,500 CDN

What's great is that the same model in Canada is $33,500, and doesn't include the Bose system, intelligent key or Bluetooth. By the time I pay taxes and financing on it (through prime rate borrowing account), I'll have saved well over $13,000.

[lozen13]

Yeah once all is said and done the Same vehicle which is not available here as the tech package and leather go together would be about $38000.For $10,000 I will skip the warranty

[Barney]

Indicates that it has to be registered in the US.

I have a feeling that the people at Nissan are equally confused about whether warranty will be valid or not in this situation.

My salesrep was off yesterday, but he's available today so I'll be putting down my deposit.

Exeunt, did you get any clarification on this? Looking into it it does seem that the vehicle needs to be registered in the US, but then if you subsequently transfer it to Canadian registration your warranty would still be valid... However, can a non-US resident register a car in the US? It seems like a quick way to spend $100 and keep your warranty if you can.

[exeunt]

I have no idea what registration entails. It may require being a US citizen, and if that's the cause, the other clause voids the warranty if it gets transferred to a Canadian citizen in the first 6 months.

I may just spend the $2500 on a replacement warranty just to cover me if the engine falls out in the first few years.

[Barney]

I think that the transfer to canada in the first 6 months is fine as it only voids the warranty if the country is changed and the owner is changed. As the owner would be the same then your warranty would not be voided.

However, as you say - if you have to be a US resident to do it, then it is a non-starter. Wish I had the collateral to just pull the trigger right now.

[Barney]

It is indeed, a non-starter.

[lozen13]

Lets face it you take a bit of risk on the warranty but for the amount you save it is worth it. If they do not honor the warranty I plan on filing a complaint with the Government. Lets hope the dollar holds a few more days

[Msdarkdiva]

Well a friend with a US address will take care of the residency problem (if you are lucky enough to have one in the State where you intend to purchase the car).

It's just another hurdle (and cash grab)- it's not insurmountable!

I wonder if they will accept P.O. Boxes! LOL!

[freshtunes]

I thought I would contribute what I have found out through my research:

1) Just talked to person at Nissan Canada to inquire about getting a compliance letter for the immobilizer. She said that the US Rogue does not met the standards and as such cannot be imported into Canada. (As per new regulations all SUV's manufactured after Sept 1, 2008 must meet the new standards: CMVSS 114). I don't know if she was B.S.'ing me but this is what I've told.

2) In order to have the warranty valid in Canada you must register the vehicle in the US first and not transfer the vehicle to another person within 6 months. Sound easy?? Nope. You must prove that you're a resident of the State when you're registering the vehicle, Ie. Drivers license. Plus, when you register the vehicle you will then have to pay State tax (if applicable). You can't get a friend to register the vehicle unless you want to wait for the 6 months to pass. This is their official policy...not sure the flexibility if you actually have problems. Note: The dealership that I've been talking to said that they will cover any warranty work and put this in writing.

3) Nissan USA will provide a no recall letter, but if point 1) holds true, then it won't matter as you'll be stuck at the border.

Hope this helps...let me know if anyone hears differently for the immobilizer. RIV said that I must get a compliance letter from the manufacturer, but others on this board say they've been told the Rogue is OK.

Jesse

[Msdarkdiva]

I don't know if she was B.S.'ing me but this is what I've told.

I doubt she was B.Sing you but hopefully she may not be updated with the most recent information (working in our favor- fingers crossed!). It wouldn't be the first time more than one client rep gave out conflicting information!

Quote »Plus, when you register the vehicle you will then have to pay State tax (if applicable). [/quote]I'll say it again... Cash grab! The last one before you drive your vehicle back into Canada! Do the other car manufacturers (like Subaru, who aren't making clients jump through hoops) demand people register their vehicle in the U.S. first? I'm asking...

[exeunt]

I called RIV several days ago, told them the year and model, and she replied that the Nissan Rogue was not a problem for import.

I'm picking mine up on the 12th, so I suppose I'll find out then

When it comes to warranty issues, something tells me that if I need work done, it won't be an issue any longer. The dealerships get paid for warranty work, so they may find a way to get confused by the legal speak themselves

If not, and my engine falls out of the Rogue on the drive home, I'll take it out of the $13,000 that I saved

[freshtunes]

Lozen13,

Can you please let the board know when you get the Rogue into Canada. I'm interested in this whole immobilizer compliance thing. I've been told multiple times by Nissan Canada that it is not compliant...One rep even said they were told by RIV that it wasn't compliant.

RIV has also told me that I must contact the manufacturer regarding compliance because the vehicle is manufactured after Sept 1, 2007 and that I have to get the compliance in writing. Apparently, this letter is mandatory at the border if the vehicle is built after Sept 1st (I believe all Rogue's are built after Sept 1st). No letter...No entry

If you have no problems, could you please post the process in regards to this.

thanksJesse