Cool looking "VTEC" indicator on Toyota Corolla

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=aQamT66EAxI

I'm sure the novalty of it would wear off soon, however, if you could set up where the light turns color, you could have it stay blue, then turn red when hitting the redline. That would be much cooler IMO.

On a side note, that vtec seems nearly useless. Kicks in at 6.5k and redlines at 8k? Shift and you're out of vtec. Bleh. They should have taken some notes from Honda.


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Read the comments. The gauges changing color is done by editing just to show where vvti-l kicks in.

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Looneybomber wrote:
On a side note, that vtec seems nearly useless. Kicks in at 6.5k and redlines at 8k? Shift and you're out of vtec. Bleh. They should have taken some notes from Honda.
I always thought toyota's vtec was dumb.


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Toyota's vvt-i is supposed to be better technology. It's supposed to be able to kick over at any time based on the ECU's determination of when the driver wants full throttle and when the engine is primed to do so.

In theory.. it's a better design. In practice.. it's not nearly as strong. Perhaps toyota's varaible lobe on the cam is much less aggresive than Honda's? Honda sure feels stronger when it kicks in.


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cmfireman wrote:Read the comments. The gauges changing color is done by editing just to show where vvti-l kicks in.
Aww, that sucks.
Eikon wrote:Toyota's vvt-i is supposed to be better technology. It's supposed to be able to kick over at any time based on the ECU's determination of when the driver wants full throttle and when the engine is primed to do so.

In theory.. it's a better design. In practice.. it's not nearly as strong. Perhaps toyota's varaible lobe on the cam is much less aggresive than Honda's? Honda sure feels stronger when it kicks in.
Yeah it sounds like a good idea, but I am a bit partial to my S's vtec engagement. It's always there when I need it and never when I don't. If everytime I upshifted I came out of vtec, my car would suck.

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Looneybomber wrote: If everytime I upshifted I came out of vtec, my car would suck.
Same here man.

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toyotas vvtl-i is a weird thing. my friends celica (in this case, the same engine as the matrix xrs) has like 3 setps to it. from idle to 4000rpm its normal, from 4k-6500rpm it adjusts valve timing, and from 6500-8000 it adjusts valve lift. im not sure if you have been in a 2zz before but it feels a lot stronger when you hit lift. keyword is "feel". obviously its not as fast as a s2k but it feels stronger than s2k's vtec. but yes, his car is slow as hell until he hits lift.

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kamikazestorm420 wrote:toyotas vvtl-i is a weird thing. my friends celica (in this case, the same engine as the matrix xrs) has like 3 setps to it. from idle to 4000rpm its normal, from 4k-6500rpm it adjusts valve timing, and from 6500-8000 it adjusts valve lift. im not sure if you have been in a 2zz before but it feels a lot stronger when you hit lift. keyword is "feel". obviously its not as fast as a s2k but it feels stronger than s2k's vtec. but yes, his car is slow as hell until he hits lift.
The s2k's VTEC gives it an instant 15-20ft.lbs of TQ. It's not much, but it can be felt. I just consider it a means of helping my gasmilage in the lower RPMs and a way of helping the engine breathe in the upper RPMs, because, that's what it's for! B-E-A-Utiful torque curve!

As for the 2000 Celica GTS w/11k miles.

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200hp 140tq lols

I drove a few friends s2k's.. they have no balls. even in "vtec".. it's sad that you have to have it at 6500rpms for anything to happen...

But this is comparing it to the tq of a KA-T... which still makes more TQ stock than a s2k

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It may appear I was posting dyno charts to show the superiority of the s2k. I was not. I only posted them to show the difference. Both cars jump up in power about the same amount, but the GTS has a greater % of increase which will also be more noticable than in the s2k.
lrb_2000 wrote:200hp 140tq lols

I drove a few friends s2k's.. they have no balls. even in "vtec".. it's sad that you have to have it at 6500rpms for anything to happen...

But this is comparing it to the tq of a KA-T... which still makes more TQ stock than a s2k
*sigh* bench racers.

You're comparing a boosted engine with a naturally aspirated engine of lesser displacement. An S13 is not even in the same race class as an S2k according to SCCA. A boosted S13 is no longer in the same class as a stock S13. So what's the point? Or were you wanting to bench race your s13 with what 270-280rwhp vs a stock s2k with a bolt-on turbo kit by hp-performance making 360-370rwhp at 9psi.

I mean, what was your point?

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he said more TQ "stock" than a s2k. please read closely.

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sunnys14 wrote:he said more TQ "stock" than a s2k. please read closely.
lrb_2000 wrote:But this is comparing it to the tq of a KA-T.
Engine of which he is comparing with a stock s2k.
lrb_2000 wrote:...which still makes more TQ stock than a s2k
Superfulous information since it has no relevance to the subject, which is the KA-T.

Did you read close enough?

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lol i pwnd a new civic Si and all i have is a stock royal purple power ka exahust and filter lol so i dont see hype in it

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