What did I do wrong??? Jun SR Flywheel + Exedt Clutch + Hitachi Gear Reduc.

[driftin8ez]

Well i have my new motor in and it's working great except for one small problem. I have a Jun SR20DET Flywheel, exedy Stage 1 Clutch and the hitachi Gear reduction starter for i think it was an 85 stanza with the CA20E . When i try and start the car the car starter makes this crazy *** grinding noise like the ring gear and starter aren't meshing properly. What gives? Did i get the wrong starter? Do i need to shim it out or something?

*Edit: On a side note the car will run and drives fine, so the trans was definitely clearanced properly. It has to have something to do with the start/clutch/flywheel area.
Modified by driftin8ez at 1:13 AM 8/13/2007

[Woods Crasher]

Well i have my new motor in and it's working great except for one small problem. I have a Jun SR20DET Flywheel, exedy Stage 1 Clutch and the hitachi Gear reduction starter for i think it was an 85 stanza with the CA20E . When i try and start the car the car starter makes this crazy *** grinding noise like the ring gear and starter aren't meshing properly. What gives? Did i get the wrong starter? Do i need to shim it out or something?

*Edit: On a side note the car will run and drives fine, so the trans was definitely clearanced properly. It has to have something to do with the start/clutch/flywheel area.

try and use your regular ca starter....i did and it worked fine when i had an sr setup....i think that one guy said the nose cone hit cuz he was using an over sized pressure plate(z33 i think) that hung over the edge of the flywheel. You should be ok with a regular sr20 pressure plate though

Modified by driftin8ez at 1:13 AM 8/13/2007

Modified by Woods Crasher at 2:36 PM 8/13/2007
Modified by Woods Crasher at 2:37 PM 8/13/2007

[driftin8ez]

I just gave the regular CA starter a try as well. No luck at all. The nose cone even after extreme grinding was still contacting something when you would try and crank it. So now I'm totally lost as to what starter i should be using. I know most said that the CA20e gear reduction starter works fine but the one i have is definitley not being kind to my ring gear.

[Woods Crasher]

I just gave the regular CA starter a try as well. No luck at all. The nose cone even after extreme grinding was still contacting something when you would try and crank it. So now I'm totally lost as to what starter i should be using. I know most said that the CA20e gear reduction starter works fine but the one i have is definitley not being kind to my ring gear.

Hmmm...perhaps you should try another starter... Maybe it's not popping out right? My ca18 starter started my ORC single plate clutch setup. So i don't think it has anything to do with teeth count...

P.S. Btw I'm seikenman from IFX. I left you a response to your thread. I had some car trouble over the weekend and never called. Sorry about that.

[driftin8ez]

Well you have to let me know whats up because im about to sell the cams from the head you wanted. I would obviously let it go for cheaper less the cams but if you really want them you should act fast. Also, I have two good CA alternators at my house along with the motor. I was looking to get $40 each for them.

[Woods Crasher]

Well you have to let me know whats up because im about to sell the cams from the head you wanted. I would obviously let it go for cheaper less the cams but if you really want them you should act fast. Also, I have two good CA alternators at my house along with the motor. I was looking to get $40 each for them.

You can go ahead and sell the cams if you want to. That motor is just gonna be a backup/rebuild project. Perhaps I could take the long block minus the cams plus the alternator instead? Is this Sunday good? I've give you a call Saturday. Thanks and sorry again :-/

*edit* Oh yea, If you have parts for the power steering pump tensioner, I'll buy those as well.

[driftin8ez]

That sounds fair... I'll have to check on the Power steering stuff though. Sunday is fine but the sooner the better.

[driftin8ez]

i just know what im using and that it works. STi sent me an s14 gearbox, SR clutch, flywheel, and starter for free to compensate for sending me and AUTO CA18. i had them send me a starter for the hell of it, i was worried the standard one would work because of posts ive seen. noticed that the sr starter would never work. put the flywheel and clutch on, all fine and dandy, put the ca starter on, it went right it, no problems. still kind of worried it wouldnt work when i went to start it. went to start it and still, fine and dandy. maybe the auto and manual starters are different?? maybe he didnt send me an sr clutch and flywheel? but that wouldnt make sense.

have you tried using the old ca starter?

I think the reason why my stock ca starter doesn't work is because of the style of lightweight flywheel im using. But that still doesn't answer why the ca20e starter isn't working. The sound i'm hearing when i go to start the car, to me, sounds like the gears are being meshed to close together. Is the total outside diameter of the ring gears on the sr and the ca the same? If the sr is slightly larger than that would support my theory. Also did you somehow use the s14 gearbox on the ca? That would already have the starter properly spaced away from the flywheel if so.

[ch187]

yes the gearbox i got for free was out of a 97 SR blacktop and had about 10k miles on it. mated it with my CA bellhousing so i dont see how it would affect the starter.. everything behind the crank minus the bellhousing is all sr20 stuffs, most likely all off the same blacktop SR.

[driftin8ez]

If you swapped in the bell housing from a CA then the starter mounting location is the same. Damn i have no idea wtf is going on. Anyone with any input is very welcome to comment.

[mbmbmb23]

If you swapped in the bell housing from a CA then the starter mounting location is the same. Damn i have no idea wtf is going on. Anyone with any input is very welcome to comment.

Compare the crossover part number for your starter versus the one that was proven to work here on the boards in "knighrider's" thread (I think that was the guy from JWT who got it to work). If you can prove its too tight of a fit you can always try to slightly slot the starter mounting bolt holes to locate the unit away from the flywheel....like...very slightly. That will probably work unless the teeth have incompatible splines (teeth shape/number/etc.)

-m

[DoriJai]

hey did you ever figure out the problemi might be going the same route

[driftin8ez]

hey did you ever figure out the problemi might be going the same route

Nope and my car is now decommissioned for the winter. Unless both of my beaters take a **** on me before spring the 240 will be parked. With these two guys buzzing strong i don't see that happening.