How to wire up an e-fan, the really wasy way!

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ZiG
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Well I've had some interest in the way I wired my efan, so I thought I'd share it here. There are many ways of doing this, but here's one...

The car: 1993 240sx with factory AC

Note: This won't touch on how to actually install the fan at all. That subject has been beaten to death. This only shows how to easily wire it up, because so far I haven't seen a method as simple as mine.

Background:In addition to a clutch fan, cars equipped with air conditioning also got a small electric fan between the clutch fan and the radiator. This is because the AC condenser needs air passing through it to keep cool, otherwise your AC won't blow cold. So obviously if the engine is too cold for the clutch fan to engage, the AC wouldn't work properly. Now, this little fan isn't meaty enough to cool the engine as well, but it's got wiring and that's what is important.

The way this fan works is simple. The relay has constant power to it through a 30 amp fusible link. The relay coil (or turn-on signal) only gets power with the key on. That means when you turn the car off, the fan turns off. Awesome, eh?

What you will need-Wire-Split loom-a few female blade connectors-Electrical tape-a switch-Either a soldering iron and solder, or a splice connector and some butt connectors-Heat shrink (optional, I guess)-Some eyelets (those things that crimp to a wire but have a metal circle on the other end)-Crimping tool (or good pliers?)-Thermostatic switch

A note about the thermostatic switch: There are two different kinds. There is the kind that pushes into your radiator fins and the kind that taps into the coolant. I prefer the latter, so that's what I got. All I did was ask for one for an old caddy or something, and made sure it's on temperature was in the 170 range. Then I went and got some fittings to screw it into, and put ends on it so I could splice it into a coolant hose. Then I did a throttlebody bypass (why not?) and tapped it into that coolant line. The fittings I used look kind of weird, but whatever. Just make sure that the whole thing is made of metal that conducts electricity and make sure it's grounded. Here's my big ghetto rig:

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Note that the wire coming out the top of it that goes to the bolt on the engine is the ground. You have to have this or else it won't work.

What you doOk, this will help you take advantage of as much of this stock setup as humanly possible. Here's a simplified diagram showing how the ac fan wiring works and how you wire in a manual switch to turn it on, as well as a thermostatic switch to make it come on automatically when the engine gets to the desired temperature:

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Obviously the circle with the M in it is the fan motor...

Pull the cover to the passenger side fuse box and locate the ac fan relay. Should be in the driver side front position. Now lift off the middle part of the fuse box so that you can get to the wiring underneath it. look for the wire coming out the bottom of the relay that is orange with a blue stripe. That's the one that goes to the ecu. If you ground it, you can watch your fan come on (if it's still connected, of course). Splice into the wire any way you like. Run a new wire from there to wherever you mount your temperature probe. Now one end of the probe is gonna be grounded (the body of it) and the other end (the blade connector on the top) is gonna be the one you want to connect to. Take your wire and connect it to the blade connector and tape it up good.

Now for the optional switch. Either use a 3 way butt connector, solder, or use another splice connector to get another length of wire coming off the one you just connected. Run it into the car and to your switch. Then run it from the other pole of the switch to ground.

Now all that's left to do is cut the plug off the pigtail for the stock ac fan and connect the wires to the plug for your electric fan.

Aaand.. you're done! Now the fan will turn on when the air conditioning is on, when the coolant is hot enough, when the switch is flicked on, or any combination of the three.

If you have a fan controller but don't know how to make it work with the AC

Most aftermarket controllers I've seen use a constant ground and a switched +ve source to turn on the relay. If this is the case, simply run the wire that would connect to the fan motor to the turn on wire for your fan controller relay. If your fan controller relay uses a switched ground to turn on, well just cut the wire at the stock relay and run it straight to the ground on your fan controller's relay.

Well I hope that makes sense to everyone. Any questions?


DaydreamDrifter
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Is it possible to tap into the thermostatic switch on the lower radiator hose that goes to the condenser fan?

mrgreeneyes
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the SOHC models have such a FACTORY thermo switch in their lower rad hoses. HINT HINT. (for all you junkyarders out there)

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Vernal
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mrgreeneyes wrote:the SOHC models have such a FACTORY thermo switch in their lower rad hoses. HINT HINT. (for all you junkyarders out there)
Yeah I noticed my piggy had a medium sized electric fan in front of the radiator. So the electric fan plugs into that weird sensor in the lower radiator hose?

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its not a sensor, its a switch :D

and your small pusher fan is doodoo... replace with decent one asap

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Vernal
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So I can use that switch and get a bigger electric fan and get rid of my clutch fan? If so, any recommendations? Also can I mount the new fan in front of it still or does it have to be in the engine bay side?

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i am going to do this but would this work for 1997 s14 kouki??
and also where can i find a water temperature sensor and how would that be installed in the radiator hose?
thanks in advance!

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ok so i found this kit from AEM its a water temperature sensor...but how would i set this to 170 degrees??
here's the link:
http://www.aemelectronics.com/water-coo ... or-kit-639

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and will the ac still work good if we use the ac connector?? any help would be greatly appreciated!
thanks

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DanThaMan
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you need a temperature switch, not a sensor...a sensor would send a varying voltage signal to the gauge if you had one. You need a switch, like one for a car with an idiot light, not a gauge

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charat
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passing air keeps your AC cold?! derrrrr...really?


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