turbo wont fit, need help!!! s-14 ka24de

[ka24e510]

i have a revhard cast iron turbo manifold with the t3/t4 flange, i have a garrett t3/t4 turbo, 50 trim, 0.63 a/r and it hits the master cylinder. i cant even get it close to bolt up, anyone else overcome this issue? thanks,

jason beagleka24e510

[Philsnotfalling]

you can either get a different manifold or turbo. the revhard was origanally designed for a on center t4. I think a few have used just a s8t t3 and had minor clearance issues but I'm unsure. Someone has used an adapter before, there was a pic somewhere on here. Short of refrabricating you don't have many choices.

[WDRacing]

Here's the adapter..

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/606259/7

[ka24e510]

thanks for the info, that adaptor looks like it will do the trick, but i dont have a car domain id so i was unable to get ahold of this guy, does anyone have the info so that i can get that spacer? thanks again,

jason beagle

[WDRacing]

He had it custom made A LONG time ago. Best of luck...

[ka24e510]

oh crap! bump for more advise!

jason beagleka24e510

[gaehrings13]

Just get a on center for the best clearance. It will be better trust me. That guy probably had the piece cnc'ed or something. I had the same problem with my ****ty ssac manifold, I bought a on center and the clearance is perfect.

[scotttak]

you can clock the engine with some hockey pucks. i dont know the specifics, but someone on here did that. also, you can change to non-abs, non-automatic transmission brake booster and master cylinder. i think that makes it clear.

[WDRacing]

I totally forgot about that, Chezedick did it to his and said it worked out VERY well. He's using the SSAC mani though, not the RevHard. But it may work out for ya. I'll link him to this thread.

[scotttak]

i think the ssac has the same exact fittment as the revhard, or so ive read.

[Chezedik]

It is the same, and you hit that master cyl. Here is what you do:

1) Pick up 5 hockey pucks from your local sports store (about 5 bucks)2) Set them in a stack, 2 in one stack, 3 in the other. Find a bolt that is about an inch longer than either stack and some washers and a nut for that bolt.3) Using Duct or Packing tape, tape these stacks together.4) Drill a hole in the center of the stack all the way to the other side. This hole must be big enough to accomodate the bolt going in it. The bolt must be small enough to go through the motor mount hole in the body. 5) Jack the motor up by the trans and slide each stack in place. The 3 stack will go on the Exhaust side. (To do this, you need to unbolt the trans mount)6) Once in place slide the bolt w/ washer through the engine mount mount and tape it to the stacks. Do this on both sides.7) SLOWLY! lower engine back into place, so that the bolts fall into the holes. This may take a little bit of 'persuading' on your part. 8) Once the bolts have found their holes, put a washer on the threaded side, and put a nut down on it. I would suggest two nuts, in case one comes loose from the vibration.9) Lower the engine back onto the trans mount, and reattach. 10) Enjoy knowing that you have firmer mounts for less than a tenth of the price of Nismo mounts. Oh yeah, and your Strut Bar will clear the turbo, and the turbo will clear the BMC.

I found that I still had to use heat wrap to prevent boiling the fluid/burning the car down. But I double wrapped it, and now I can grab the pipe if I want to.

Good Luck! Also, if you do this you have to put a sticker on your car that says "I wanna be a Chezedik!"

[scotttak]

does it hit if you have a non-abs non-automatic s13???

[Chezedik]

Apparently so, that is what I have.

[ka24e510]

thanks alot for the info, i do have the auto brake booster and master as i have the 300zx brake upgrade without the 300zx master.

that was alot of good info chezedik, does this lower the motor also? it looks a though i need to clock the motor and change the master? i tried to get an on center housing for my turbo but they only make them in a t4, i have a t3/t04e with a t3 exhaust housing so no "on center for me i guess?

if anyone knows how to get an on center housing for a t3 0.63 ar stage 3 wheel let me know!

jason beagleka24e510

p.s. what manifold clears with no problems? any cheapy's out there? i may just try to make a spacer out of a t3 flange and a t4 flange.

[s14noob]

i had the exact same problem as you with your manifold and turbo. the guy that has the adapter for that manifold is a local for me. i did consult with him about getting the adapter made and it costs too much to replicate. he told me it's better off to buy a new manifold so i went with the jgs manifold. it's basically a log style manifold but you can mount the flange anywhere you want. now my turbo clears and it sits closer to the power steering cylinder. this method was cheaper of the two.

[ka24e510]

thanks for the info, i was very close to buying the "diy" manifold myself but then i saw "not in stock, 2-3 weeks to ship" and i thought about the adaptor. i am going to buy a t3 flange and a t4 flange and with the measurements that he spoke of, make an adaptor for about $40-50 bucks. if it works, i will post pics.

i just cant believe that people can get away with building products that dont fit correctly!!! i almost bought the ssautocrap mani but chezediks did not fit either.

jason beagleka24e510

[Chezedik]

Nope, but it fits now.

[scotttak]

hopefully i wont h ave to clock my engine. i have a base moder, non-hicas, 240sx, i wonder if that is any different. maybe because you have hicas???

[Chezedik]

HICAS is a suspension setup that will be unaffected by clocking the motor, or by BMC choice. The only thing is that the HICAS models had only the ABS option, right?

[scotttak]

what im saying is that i thought the hicas model had a bigger bmc or something. i dunno if it came with abs or not.

[Chezedik]

IDK, I thought that the ABS used a slightly larger BMC, but really, the problem is the clearance for lines coming out of the side.

[C-Kwik]

An easier solution would be to purchase a Turbonetics turbine housing for your turbo. The Garrett turbine housing places the turbo out further from the manifold. Turbonetics should make a turbine housing that would match your Garrett turbine wheel. Just make sure you match the trim correctly or you will either have fitment issues or negatively affect the turbine efficiency.

[Chezedik]

Easier yes, but the housings are what, 200 bux each?

[ka24e510]

I vote for spend $36.00 on some flanges and make an adaptor, since all the ideas seem to cost more than that. i have a welder that i can use with some grinders and such, and since its my pocket, i want to keep it light. i keep hearing of people using the rev hard mani with a t3/t4, does everybody reclock their motor?

jason beagle

[Chezedik]

My idea is 8 dollars.

EDIT: AFAIK, there was only one or two people who have done it before me.

[C-Kwik]

Easier yes, but the housings are what, 200 bux each?

No need to try and sell your idea man. It's his car, he can choose for himself.

But if you want to argue points on this, at least he won't have to put on a "I wanna be a Chezedik!" sticker with the options that aren't yours.

[Chezedik]

That's true, but for my money that's the best part. Guaranteed 50hp gain, plus trim up to your knees. ;,) .