gs14racer
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Also anyone have any advice on the adapter plate, i can probably figure it out but it would be nice to have something to start off of.BTW motor will actually be going into this car 
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| « Re: (gs14racer) | 7:26 PM 2/26/2007 |
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Good luck with your prodject man. Your s14 is sexy. So can I have one of those vh45s for cheap? My brother lives down there near you, wheres your familys junkyard at?
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| « Re: (gs14racer) | 1:54 PM 3/2/2007 |
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Got my z32 tranny clean 46k mile, mint car, rear ended, shame. 100.00.You see in the pics the vh bellhousing , my next plan of action is to make the motor and the tranny happy together, after this motor goes in to car.

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| « Re: (gs14racer) | 3:36 PM 3/2/2007 |
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Sweet project. I'm curious to see what you do for the bellhousing. There are a few guys that have made Z32/VH45 adapter plates. John Dixon is one...Great looking S14! Is this a PS line cut in these pics? Is that the side of the oil pan? 

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gs14racer
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| « Re: (IWannaS15) | 3:48 PM 3/2/2007 |
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Yes that is a view of the side of the oil pan.I cut the factory power steering cooling loop out because it was in the way of the oil pan. Im gonna run a power steering cooler anyway.
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cool, what are you doing for headers?
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gs14racer
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| « Re: (slownslurious) | 7:38 PM 3/2/2007 |
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Im clearancing the frame rails on both sides for some 4 into 1 long tube equal length headers with a 3 inch merge collector to dual 3 inch exhaust.
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where are you planning on running dual 3" on an S chassis, especially with respect to the pass side? no ground clearance!Its defintely overkill for an NA vh anyway.
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| « Re: (slownslurious) | 8:22 PM 3/2/2007 |
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Dual till after the tranny then cross over to the driverside and out the back. Ill put an xpipe in there some where.Its not gonna be NA for long. Plan is vortech supercharger which im trying to aquire now, looking for about 425-450 whp.
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I've got an eaton M112 and single 3" is plenty for me.
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gs14racer
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| « Re: (slownslurious) | 12:50 PM 3/3/2007 |
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REason i am doing a dual 3 inch is because for example.ON the stock NA ka24de in the 240sx people are getting more power by going with a 3 inch all the way then a 2.5 as logic would suggest with a natraully aspirated motor. This has been proved time and time again locally and on freshalloy. So with a motor as big as a 4.5 liter VH theres no reason not to think that gains especially in the upper RPM range would be had with a dual 3 inch. It seems to me that a 3 inch single would be choking the motor a bit. As well as choking it after it goes forced induction. In addition a lot of supra guys are finding gains as much as 30 whp by just switching from a 3.0 inch downpipe to a 3.5 inch down pipe and leaving the rest of the exhaust 3 inches. But hey ive been proved wrong before. Time will tell as soon as the headers and exhaust are made the car will be going stright to the dyno, and Ill be sure to post up the results. Besides since I fabricate the exhaust myself its not costing a lot to do this, just the piping and U bends.
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yeah... my car is already pretty low I just dont think I could conceivably fit dual 3" pipe under it... if I was THAT concerned about back pressure I'd probably run cut outs for the track (or straight pipe). dual 3" is going to double the weight, cost, and cause ground clearance problems... I was thinking about putting in a cut out right before the cat to see if it produced anything more than a louder, more menancing V-8 growl.
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| « Re: (slownslurious) | 5:55 PM 3/3/2007 |
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My cars prettly low as well you just have to get a bit creative (ie oval the piping in places) with it and it will fit.

More than exhaust clearance im concerened with oil pan clearanceas you can see in this pic the oil pan is about 25 mm below the crossmember. If it becomes an issue ill have to cut it apart redisgn the pick up and just make it sit higher.

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yeah mine is gonna be like that too and I'd rather avoid the cost and complexity of a dry sump system... I was thinking maybe a skid plate... its gonna be pretty much a track car so its not a huge issue but still, it would be comforting to know that a track off or riding up on the curbing isn't going to destroy the engine.
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| « Re: VH45de s14 (gs14racer) | 4:14 PM 3/4/2007 |
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Any idea how the starter is going to fit?
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| « Re: VH45de s14 (SuperHatch) | 7:18 PM 3/4/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by SuperHatch » | Any idea how the starter is going to fit? |
To the gearbox if he uses the z32 transmission.
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| « Re: VH45de s14 (anlasak) | 5:00 AM 3/5/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by anlasak » | | To the gearbox if he uses the z32 transmission. |
Yeah that'd work...
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| « Re: (gs14racer) | 10:53 AM 3/5/2007 |
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how much would you sell the one of the VH's for. and if u could post the dimensions of your fab'd up motor mount. thnx
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gs14racer
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| « Re: (dj_monstar) | 11:45 AM 3/5/2007 |
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Not interested in selling any of the vh's now, as i dont know how many im gonna blow up getting where i want to be.As for the mounts, I just got some 1/4 steel, used the stock mount to make a template for the block, made it a little longer. Placed the motor on the subframe then cut out peices to bolt it where i wanted it. Then weld.
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gs14racer
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| « Re: (gs14racer) | 11:53 AM 3/5/2007 |
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Got the harness out of one of the donor cars to convert it for my s14. Ive done plenty of Sr harnesses, as well as built my own chassis harness so wiring doesnt really bother me. Heres a pic, car is a 90. I am downloading the 94 vh service manual does anyone know if the pinouts are the same. 
I assume these three plugs are the ones that need to be hooked up for this car to work.
To save me time does anyone know which wires have to be hooked up? I assume all i need is power from the eccs relay power to the coils, injectors, maf, o2, tps, etc fuel pump relay signal Start signal RPM signal Colant temp signal Check engine light There was mention of the auto tranny inhibtor bypass, can anyone elaborate 
Does anyone know if the vh tach output will work with the 4cyl guage cluster???? Should have the Z32 tranny adapter plate sorted out this week, more details to come once I know its done.
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| « Re: (gs14racer) | 8:33 PM 3/5/2007 |
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the only one of your questions I can answer right now is the tach one and the answer is no.I think one member already has a VH45de running in an s13 hatch with the stock ecu/ harness but I think he just laid the harness over the S13 one and left the S13 ecu to control things and the VH45de to work the motor... its not the cleanest route but certainly the quickest and cheapest. and if youre savvy you could pare down the wiring once you did that and get it to look pretty sano.
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gs14racer
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Got most of the wiring squared away.15 wires in total But im also using the check engin light, oil pressure light, factory temp guage, cooling fan signal for relay, and a/c. The stock 240sx ecu or harness is not necsacary. Integrating it into the chassis harness will be easy enough. Ill post the bare nessiscty for it to run wires later for future reference for others. I only have one question. What is pin 48 on the ecu?
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| « Re: (gs14racer) | 5:15 PM 3/7/2007 |
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48 goes from ECU straight to the throttle position sensor (TPS), though if your motor had TCS it forks and has a wire branching off to the TCS module as well, which can be terminated.
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| « Re: VH45de s14 (gs14racer) | 12:13 PM 3/29/2007 |
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Got the good motor so i can start fabricating the exhaust, while the adapter plate is being finished.Also the hood closes fine 








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Someone in Miami has already made 1 set of VH45DE headers, but they were for the motor in a 95 Q45. I'm sure the angles/clearances will be different.I'm loving the idea .
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You're making great progress mate! Toughest S14 I've ever seen :DI'd be interested to see/hear your solutions for clutch master & slave cylinders, and brake booster.
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looks to have the stock ones still on the firewall, from the pictures....
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*slaps forehead*****in LHD, here's me looking at the proper side of the car for the brake booster etc, when of course it's on that crazy foreign other side position! But seriously, even so, I'd have thought the brake booster would be interfering with the head ?
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| « Re: (Mettler) | 9:11 PM 3/29/2007 |
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As far as the booster , the motor is so low it clears, actually its slightly touching, so im just gonna grind down the valve cover a little bit. The mounts are almost solid so it shouldnt rock enough to hit it.By my calculations i only need to remove about 2 mm of material off the back corner for it to have a fair amount of room. But thats small potatoes. My real problem is this Power steering. The pump wants to be where the sway bar is, any thoughts guys. It interferes so much that theres no way it will fit.
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| « Re: (gs14racer) | 9:33 PM 3/29/2007 |
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Go with a electris powersteering pump!! A guy is selling one on ebay right now. They come on 2nd gen mr2s
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| « Re: (k4rr) | 10:09 PM 3/29/2007 |
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yea i saw that, its a last resort as of now though, but its an option anyone know how that works.
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| « Re: VH45de s14 (gs14racer) | 3:58 AM 3/30/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by gs14racer » | Also the hood closes fine
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Found this out for myself a few weeks ago... I have 1mm of clearance between the oil pan and the crossmember and 1mm of clearance between the hood skin and the intake manifold... I had to remove the hood skeleton where the IM is... did you have to do the same?
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| « Re: VH45de s14 (SuperHatch) | 8:08 AM 3/30/2007 |
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yep, i had to do the same
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yeah that looks really good, like it was made for it! now forgive my ignorance, but aren't those the stock headers you just slid between the frame rails?If so how did that work out? As for the accessories I'm trying to find a manual PS rack that will fit the S13 and give me a bit lower effort, I really don't care if I have ps or not, though it does make drifting a bit easier with it. I am planning on doing a vh41 style front mount alternator, so you could try doing that with your accessories... I've been eyeing come of the billet stuff that summit racing sells and wondering how hard it would be to fit one of those kits up to my motor or alternatively, just build one to fit the vh. I would also really like to do electric water pump, some of the ones they sell for the earlier Z's look like they are awfully close to working.
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| « Re: (slownslurious) | 8:27 AM 3/30/2007 |
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Nope fortunatly the stock headers wouldnt work, they are removed in the in car pics.Today I get to fabricate headers, should take me a week i think.
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GS, this thread RULES!!!!I'd love to post up a kickass article on the homepage, if you don't mind shooting some more pictures and filling us in a little on some more details...
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| Quote, originally posted by AZhitman » | | GS, this thread RULES!!!! I'd love to post up a kickass article on the homepage, if you don't mind shooting some more pictures and filling us in a little on some more details... |
thats fine with me, email me at mopsalvage@aol.com anyway heres todays progress Got the hard part out of the way , drivers side primarys, its not optimal as i would like but now i get to concentrate on the collectors




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That wheel / tire combo is WICKED!!!!Friggin' sexy... I'll shoot over an email this weekend. This will make a GREAT article!
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AHahah good stuff mate, looks like you're making headers the same way as I made mine :D If you want any pics/info I can hook you up!
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