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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (driftin8nez) | 10:56 AM 12/15/2006 |
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Great Write Up!! 2 thumbs up!
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (MagikDragon) | 10:58 AM 12/15/2006 |
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sweeettt, i am going to do this right now, thanks!
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BRILLIANT!Sweet article, this is going on http://www.240sxTech.com. Let me know what you want your "custom title" to be!
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Done.Custom title = the tag under your screen name.
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driftin8ez
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| « Re: (AZhitman) | 11:16 AM 12/15/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by AZhitman » | | Done. Custom title = the tag under your screen name. |
Ohhh lol... There i go again. Let me think about that one. Thanks for the name change as well.
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Nice. If my dash wasn't littered with random switches already, I would totally do this. BTW, glad you kept your car Its hella nice.
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (driftin8ez) | 12:39 PM 12/15/2006 |
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got the ecu diagram for sr? btw, nice write up
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (adrians_s13) | 2:54 PM 12/15/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by adrians_s13 » | got the ecu diagram for sr? btw, nice write up |
I'll try and locate one but I'm not really to fond of the SR so i don't have the fsm or anything.
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AZhitman my custom title will be = Jersey's Finest
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| « Re: (driftin8ez) | 12:36 AM 12/16/2006 |
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Man wants his Custom Title !!
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: i second that diagram for an ESSSSSSS ARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH
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ive been wanting to do a few kill switches in my car for a while now. this wont hurt the engine will it? like.. if i do this everytime i shut the engine off?
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driftin8ez
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well if you do it like this the engine will never know. Turn the engine off then flip the switch off. Turn the switch on then the engine .
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lol.. good point..
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| « Re: (sochinkyeyesshut) | 7:57 AM 12/16/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by sochinkyeyesshut » | : i second that diagram for an ESSSSSSS ARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH |
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (driftin8ez) | 9:08 AM 12/16/2006 |
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It would be better, safer, and easier to put the switch on the ground wire coming out of the fuel pump
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lenso
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| « Re: (sochinkyeyesshut) | 9:55 AM 12/16/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by sochinkyeyesshut » | : i second that diagram for an ESSSSSSS ARRRRRRRRGGGHHHHHHH |
here you go. red top pinout is 104 color is b/p 
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| « Re: (lenso) | 10:37 AM 12/16/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by lenso » | | here you go. red top pinout is 104 color is b/p 
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thanks bro!
| Quote, originally posted by driftin8ez » | I'll try and locate one but I'm not really to fond of the SR
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eh... whatever. btw... email greg for the title. he'll get back to you in like an instant
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (IHeartTurbo) | 1:48 PM 12/17/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by IHeartTurbo » | | It would be better, safer, and easier to put the switch on the ground wire coming out of the fuel pump |
You lose. Again this is THE BEST way of doing it. It doesn't mess with the stock power circuit of the fuel pump. It only controls the relay which controls the circuit. | Quote, originally posted by lenso » | | here you go. red top pinout is 104 color is b/p 
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Thank you i will add this to the original post.
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (driftin8ez) | 2:04 PM 12/17/2006 |
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not bad dood, I pulled my article, yours is much better.
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (vroom-chirp) | 9:12 PM 12/17/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by vroom-chirp » | not bad dood, I pulled my article, yours is much better. |
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skylinekin

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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (driftin8ez) | 8:19 PM 12/21/2006 |
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when i leave my car sitting for a few hours with the kill switch on, i flip the switch off and try to start my car and it takes alot longer than normal to start, does this happen to anyone else?? did I do something wrong?? I followed your directions, i have a SOHC and I spliced it in the b/p wire.
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (skylinekin) | 10:49 PM 12/21/2006 |
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let the fuel pump prime first
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skylinekin

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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (Drewster) | 10:17 AM 12/22/2006 |
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it never did this before i put in the switch though.
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (skylinekin) | 11:00 AM 12/22/2006 |
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dont just turn on the car immediatly, turn the key to start, (when the windows go up and down, jeez i forgot that position) give it a couple seconds so the fuel runs in the lines and then start her up, mine used 2 do that 2GREAT write up by the way man, love it

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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (Seto) | 12:56 PM 12/22/2006 |
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alright, thanks.
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driftin8ez
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (skylinekin) | 8:58 PM 12/22/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by skylinekin » | | when i leave my car sitting for a few hours with the kill switch on, i flip the switch off and try to start my car and it takes alot longer than normal to start, does this happen to anyone else?? did I do something wrong?? I followed your directions, i have a SOHC and I spliced it in the b/p wire. |
If you turn your car off then flip the switch to kill the pump. Then come back and flip the pump switch so the pump will turn on before you put the key in, then turn on the car it should have no effect on starting. If you put your key in turn it to on then flip the switch it wont prime the fuel system and give you a longer start. The pump runs for about 3-5 seconds after you turn the key to the on position so if you still have the pump killed it wont prime.
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (skylinekin) | 9:30 PM 12/22/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by skylinekin » | | when i leave my car sitting for a few hours with the kill switch on, i flip the switch off and try to start my car and it takes alot longer than normal to start, does this happen to anyone else?? did I do something wrong?? I followed your directions, i have a SOHC and I spliced it in the b/p wire. | well yeah once the engine sucks the fuel outta the line (when you flip the switch off) The pump has to send fuel through a partialy empty line therefore taking longer.
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (SirSilvia) | 10:05 PM 12/23/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by SirSilvia » | | well yeah once the engine sucks the fuel outta the line (when you flip the switch off) The pump has to send fuel through a partialy empty line therefore taking longer. |
Correct but you should flip the switch after the engine has completely stopped spinning, and flip the pump back on before even putting the key in to have a seamless and closest to stock functionality.
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so using speaker wire and duct tape is the correct way to do this?
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| « Re: (ca18datsun510) | 11:15 AM 12/24/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by ca18datsun510 » | so using speaker wire and duct tape is the correct way to do this?
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If you think thats bad you should see my engine mounts. They have this stuff for sealing windshields on them. But seriously i have had it like this for months now without any problems. The duct tape seems to be holding fine too.
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I have 2 kill switches in my car. One is factory (clutch switch) 2nd one is the fuel pump. I did this directly above the fuel pump in the hatch, Cut spliced and ran the toggle up under the carpet to under my driver's seat.
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| « Re: (driftin8ez) | 12:09 PM 12/24/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by driftin8ez » | If you think thats bad you should see my engine mounts. They have this stuff for sealing windshields on them. But seriously i have had it like this for months now without any problems. The duct tape seems to be holding fine too. |
thats nothing, my motor mounts are hockey pucks right now.
but im there really is no risk of fire from them. or even just arching out and burning up the ecu.
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| « Re: (Florida240sx) | 6:58 PM 12/24/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Florida240sx » | | I have 2 kill switches in my car. One is factory (clutch switch) 2nd one is the fuel pump. I did this directly above the fuel pump in the hatch, Cut spliced and ran the toggle up under the carpet to under my driver's seat. |
Your telling me you extended the ground wire from your fuel pump all the way to the front of the car and back? I would love to see what volts your pump is actaully getting having the ground that long. I'm betting no more than 9-10volts. I hope you dont have any mods becouse your going to seriously eff up your motor running it like that.
| Quote, originally posted by ca18datsun510 » | | thats nothing, my motor mounts are hockey pucks right now. but im there really is no risk of fire from them. or even just arching out and burning up the ecu. |
No risk at all. That wire carries like .5 volts if that to the fuel pump relay. Remember a relay really doesn't need that many volts to be pulled in. Also there is really no issue with using duct tape either.
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nice article but what's with all the hatred for the sr? last time i checked it was one of the best turbo engines Japan has ever made?Is the terminal layout the same for a s13 blacktop and redtop? plus i'm getting a little confused from step 4 4)V In most cases the fuel pump relay wire is b/p or black with a purple stripe. Cut the wire about 6 inches from the ecm. Then connected two wires one to each end of the fuel pump relay wire. - so the fuel pump relay wire we cut - then we solder the toggle switch inbetween the cut wire...?
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| « Re: (Deadrodent) | 12:02 AM 1/3/2007 |
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yeah, cut that wire and then solder the switch to each end. i think what might be confusing you is the part where he said to solder wires onto each end of the cut wire - that's just to extend the wires so you can mount the switch somewhere else
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| « Re: (Drewster) | 12:28 AM 1/3/2007 |
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that's all we do? solder a switch for the relay basically turning it on/off? i don't need to ground anything do i? i've only dealt with guitar electronics before...
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| « Re: The correct way to make a Fuel pump Cut-off ... (driftin8ez) | 2:28 AM 1/3/2007 |
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your flipin' rock dude!!! give this man more than just a custom title! i've been looking for something like this for a while now. i would hate so much to not see my 240 when i woke up the next day. specially since it's a salvaged title and the insurance company wouldn't give me sh*t for it. page saved as!
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Excellent write up! Now we need one for the starter, and the ignition, and spark. Four kill switches in all different spots and the only way you'll lose your car is to a tow truck (or a thief with a lot of time on his hands, and the comfort of knowing he has that time)
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| « Re: (Deadrodent) | 8:26 AM 1/3/2007 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Deadrodent » | | that's all we do? solder a switch for the relay basically turning it on/off? i don't need to ground anything do i? i've only dealt with guitar electronics before... |
No need to ground anything. Just put a switch on the fuel pump relay wire and go!
| Quote, originally posted by Deadrodent » | Is the terminal layout the same for a s13 blacktop and redtop? |
The best thing to do is follow the sr diagram and check if the wire is black with purple strip. Which I'm sure you will find to be the case. | Quote, originally posted by Deadrodent » | - so the fuel pump relay wire we cut - then we solder the toggle switch inbetween the cut wire...?
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Correct! Also I reworded step 4 to be a little more clear. Along with the picture there should be no issue.
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