TEIN Type Flex Coilovers.....anyone use them?

[partymonster 975]

I'm thinking of getting some TEIN Type Flex Coilovers, anyone here use them. How did u like them and how was the ride?

[whiterps13]

Suspension forumhttp://forums.nicoclub.com/zeroforum/140

[partymonster 975]

oops my fault, can a mod plz move it?

[mT3]

I'm thinking of getting some TEIN Type Flex Coilovers, anyone here use them. How did u like them and how was the ride?

I have them, no regrets. ride is stiff but not harsh! Good for a daily driver.

Just make sure you adjust the preload and the corner balance the right way, or have some race shop to adjust it. Makes a big difference!

[ArticDragon192]

I run them too. I love them. Not as agressive as other coilovers, but that's because they were made that way. They are more of a street coilover, but iwth all the goodies of a high end coilover set up. I love mine. I took them to teh track to and they held thier own. Plus you can slam your car insanely on them. Id recommend them to anyone wanting a coilover set up without the kidney killing dampening.

BTW, I've been able to go 5 inched lower than stock up front, lol.

[whiterps13]

And you can use EDFC if you daily drive your car. I think this option is one of the coolest features about them.

[partymonster 975]

I think I'm going to go with them. I've hear people say there like cheap but from this it sounds like exactly what I want.Thanks

[BackIntoAnS13]

I plan on getting coilovers after the holidays, been planning on it for a while but something always comes up but the wifey said i can have them when we get income tax but besides all that i dont really know much about suspension components and all but im learning as much as i can on here but what do you mean as "aggressive" as other coilovers. Im looking into a good auto x, drift here and there and spirited driving coilover. Ive searched and searched and everybody on here recommends KTS which I dont doubt which is why im planning on those right now but ive always liked the EDFC option as WhiteRPS13 mentioned and if Tein Flex does what i mentioned i might just go with Tein.

Sorry for the long post

[whiterps13]

Heres some dude sellin' EDFC for $300 shipped, check it out.

zerothread?id=212415

[ArticDragon192]

Flexes are not cheap. 1400ish for this set up. I've been running mine for about 1.5 years and still no problems. Aggressive would be high spring rates and matching valving the Car will be very precise on the road, but you'll feel every single bump in the road. Very jerky ride on non-race track conditions, lol.

Remember, Flexes are mostly for street usage. A little soft to be competitive with them, but good enough to have a load of fun with them and still have a run the girlies won't complain about.,

[BackIntoAnS13]

would you say that the tein flex's are better then D2's???

[ArticDragon192]

Better as in? Quality? Ride quality? Response? Adjustment? Valving?

[nismofly]

teins are an ancient design and edfc is worthless

get KTS or stance

[whiterps13]

I know they are somewhat of an older design, but how is EDFC worthless?

[ArticDragon192]

teins are an ancient design and edfc is worthless

get KTS or stance

It works well though, so it shouldn't be knocked. Can't wait for mono-flex. And EDFC isn't worthless. Much like an EBC, it is a very convenient piece. Adjustment on the fly is very handy for a street car. Plus, on some cars, getting to the dampening adjustment is a *****. So give it a try before you start knocking it.

[94_240sx]

I know they are somewhat of an older design, but how is EDFC worthless?

It's not good for a vert. You have to cut part of rear frame to make rear ones fit. It's PITA for vert owners to install most coilovers. I've never seen a vert has EDFC.

[nismofly]

edfc is worthless because you should just leave your dampers set full soft on the street to extend their life, and most people like that for ride comfort

then when you go to the track you take 3 mins and adjust your settings

the other reason its worthless is because it only works on teins, and teins coilovers are so outdated design wise its not even funny...i know flex are still non inverted, and i think they might be twin tube, not sure....1985 anyone?

[naed240sx]

It works well though, so it shouldn't be knocked. Can't wait for mono-flex. And EDFC isn't worthless. Much like an EBC, it is a very convenient piece. Adjustment on the fly is very handy for a street car. Plus, on some cars, getting to the dampening adjustment is a *****. So give it a try before you start knocking it.

EDFC IS WORTHLESS JUNK

EDFC IS WORTHLESS JUNK

EDFC IS WORTHLESS JUNK

EDFC IS WORTHLESS JUNK

EDFC IS WORTHLESS JUNK

EDFC IS WORTHLESS JUNK

That being said, I will now explain why edfc is the single most worthless innovation to ever be invented for coilover setups.

1.) It is not convenient.Adjusting ALL FOUR dampers on a car with coilovers(without edfc) takes 1 minute flat. Not exagerating here. ONE MINUTE. If you are really too lazy to get out of your car to change the damping, you are one LAZY ****.

After finding out what damping setting you like on the street, you don't touch it. You leave the settings be. This means you don't have to mess with them untill you end up at a track event. At this track event, you are gonna be swapping wheels, adjusting camber settings, possibly swapping pads and rotors, and adjusting damping. Point being, just about everything takes longer than adjusting damping settings.

2.) The design fu cking sucks.Wanna know why some Tein's are edfc compatible and others are not? Ever wonder why the cheap teins are the compatible ones? It's because the cheap teins utilize a non-inverted front strut design. Quality well designed coilovers ALL use monotube, inverted front dampers. The inverted strut design is far stronger and more stable than the non-inverted design. Edfc can't be used on non inverted coils, because the adjustment knobs are at the bottom of the coilover assemblies, and would get knocked off within a day.

Basically, tein loves this because they can sell poorly designed coilovers for high prices because people like you guys buy them to run the load of BS that is edfc, and thus pay even more money to tein. What do you end up with? Non-inverted front coilovers with retardedly overpriced little motor things bolted to the tops of them.

The funniest part about this is that non-inverted coils have the easiest to adjust dampers ever, because the knobs are all up top, so you guys can't even ***** and moan about having to kneel down to get to the bottom of the coils like I do to adjust my kts.

So perhaps you are too lazy to open the hood to perform the extremely simple task of damping adjusting by hand? Maybe you should buy a Cadillac. They have lots retarded electronics as well, and you won't be allowed to open the engine bay because it will be under warranty, and the dealer will do all the work on it. Hell, why modify a car at all if you are that lazy?

Cliffs: EDFC is worthless because it doesn't save any time, and it is utilized on an inferior coilover design.

And yes, I really enjoy hammering on people who claim that it is cool, because it is not. It's cleansing to my mind and soul explain this fact in vivid detail and flame those who think otherwise, because I know that I am right. EDFC supporters are not allowed to argue with me because in their heart they know that I am right and that they are lazy.

Thank you and have a good day.

PS: 1500 bucks? **** that. Stance or KTS.

EDIT:

HMMMMMMMM.

So I forgot to mention the fact that tein flex are twin tube. Do you guys know how much twin tube dampers suck compared to monotube? I don't feel like explaining it myself, so you can read the below article.

http://www.hksusa.com/info/?id=2838

[ArticDragon192]

The new Mono-Flex are inverted mono-tube up front. And still EDFC compatible :P

BTW, Cusco, Endless, and Tanabe are also running remote dampening control.

[partymonster 975]

Well I searched and I know the KTS is good but hows the ride comfort on them? And I guess while where at it, how do you like them if you got them?And good point with the EDFC since I probably wont be changing it much on a daily driver.

[nismofly]

i love my KTS, theyre stiff, as youd expect, but not nearly as bad as some people make it out to be

and btw, 1) those other companies have started selling electronic controls because theyre trying to capitalize on people that actually think theyre worth it, like tein's been doing for years...

these companies are in business to make money you know...if they know people will pay a fortune to buy antiquated suspensions and electronic boxes that turn knobs, why wouldnt they sell the stuff? if someone designed a system to turn the doorknobs in your house for you with the push of a remote, and charged $1 million per house for the system, more than likely hed make a fortune off people who are too lazy to turn their own doorknobs

and 2) those companies sell units that do stuff far more advanced than what EDFC does, like control the amount of dampening proportional to speed

and good for tein that theyre finally going to make a monotube inverted setup, theyre now at the technology point other companies were at 10 years ago

[whiterps13]

ROFL, we all know that Deans back. I take it your computers fixed?

Let the aggravated posting begin

[ArticDragon192]

Well I searched and I know the KTS is good but hows the ride comfort on them? And I guess while where at it, how do you like them if you got them?And good point with the EDFC since I probably wont be changing it much on a daily driver.

Funny, because I change the dampening all the time in my car, and I daily drive the hell out of it. Once I get my edfc, I'll have 3 differet setting, "race spec", street scec, and girly spec, haha. I'll admit, EDFC is nothing performance oriented. I said it earlier, it's for convenience purposes. Some people prefer that over doing it the longer way. What's wrong with that? IMO, if you want to pay for it, and are cool with the price, why not?

Again, with regard to the Flexes, I love mine. People love the ride in them. Not harsh at all. Valving matches the rates very well. I've had them for over a year, lowered over 3 inches all around, and no problems at all.

[tamdo714]

i have my stances and i love them, adjustment is not a pain at all. i was riding mine on the hardest setting on the freeway, it's like a rollercoster ride, just sticks to the floor on the freeway drops, who doesn't like that? get the stances you won't be dissappointed. comes with two spring rates: 9k/7k, 8k/6k

[partymonster 975]

I'm stuck between the Flex types and the KTS coilovers. This will be a daily driver that once and awhile I will take to a drift event for some fun. what do you think will be the best choice? I'm most concerned on drive quality. I wont want to be shaking like a bobble head every time I drive.

[naed240sx]

I'm stuck between the Flex types and the KTS coilovers. This will be a daily driver that once and awhile I will take to a drift event for some fun. what do you think will be the best choice? I'm most concerned on drive quality. I wont want to be shaking like a bobble head every time I drive.

Not even a contest. KTS are the far better choice.

Also, If you are that concerned about ride quality maybe you shouldn't be gettting coilovers. Stock spring rates are 1.9 kg/mm front and rear, and coilovers are all around 8f/6f. It's gonna be stiff no matter what company you go with. That being said, kts have really good damping, and they are totally tolerable on the street. The way I see it, I've never had a girl complain, so they must be OK.

[ArticDragon192]

The girlies fall asleep with my flexes on full soft :P What's wrong with getting coilovers if you're interested in ride quality too. That's the reason Comfort Spec and the Flexes were made.

There are times when I feel the road somewhat jittery and look at a friend's 240 with stiffer suspension at laugh at them because I know they are hating the ride at that moment, bobbing up and down and all that, lol.