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1-29-2004
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I am no expert but ever thought about 264 intake and 272 exhaust?
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vutony
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10-30-2004
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first of all, get rid of greddy springs and get peaks performance made by comp, JWT S3 or S4 cams would be nice
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| « Re: (vutony) | 5:23 PM 11/7/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by vutony » | | first of all, get rid of greddy springs and get peaks performance made by comp, JWT S3 or S4 cams would be nice |
uhh... theres nothing wrong with greddy springs. so what if comp is a bit stiffer? greddy would be just fine as for cams..... everyone thats runnings HKS seem to like it. and depending on your size turbo and how much power you're planning to make youd go for step1 or 2s... I personally run JWT S4 and i love em... very nice but pricey
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norcals14
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san diego ca
6-15-2006
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thanks for the advice so far what do you guys think about the 264 int 272 exh idea? im a newb when it comes to cams but i think i will go with hks...
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| « Re: (norcals14) | 8:30 PM 11/7/2006 |
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im in no way trying to thread jack, but this would most likely be a place to ask...is it neccissary to get cams if you have nothing else done to the internals of an sr engine? i asked my buddy at rmj motorsports, and i was given an answer that was along those lines. whats ur guys' take on this? but for norcals14..iv'e HEARD that 264 intake and 272 exhaust is a good setup to run.
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| « Re: (meangreens14) | 9:09 PM 11/7/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by meangreens14 » | | im in no way trying to thread jack, but this would most likely be a place to ask...is it neccissary to get cams if you have nothing else done to the internals of an sr engine? i asked my buddy at rmj motorsports, and i was given an answer that was along those lines. whats ur guys' take on this? but for norcals14..iv'e HEARD that 264 intake and 272 exhaust is a good setup to run. |
If I understand you correctly, I think you want to ask how much power will the stock bottom end take? With that power level, do I really need cams? The answer to Q1 is: Enough for you to add cams... Of course no one has the magic value but if you are making over 320 HP or so you could definitely benefit from adding cams. And yes, the stock bottom end can take that much power.
 
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| « Re: (vutony) | 10:52 PM 11/7/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by vutony » | | oooops, it was hks thats similar to stock |
yeah thats what i was thinking that you were thinking... sall good! but yeah stay away from HKS springs! who wants expensive springs that are basically stock spring?! say no to soft!| Quote, originally posted by meangreens14 » | | im in no way trying to thread jack, but this would most likely be a place to ask...is it neccissary to get cams if you have nothing else done to the internals of an sr engine? i asked my buddy at rmj motorsports, and i was given an answer that was along those lines. whats ur guys' take on this? |
i would say it depends on your snail. if you have a big smail and want more air to be pushing thru then cams will do wonders! but its NOT necessary for cams... its just a good upgrade
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norcals14
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95' 240sx se redtop swap
san diego ca
6-15-2006
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so is there anyone who actually runs 264 and 272?? not to take away from what anyone has heard, i just want to hear from someone with the setup...
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norcals14
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sounds good thanks...
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DrifterProdigy85
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what kind of powerband are you looking for? with my 2871R .86, peak torque is 5krpm and drives hard to redline. Best cams for this powerband is a straight 272 setup. but if your turbo gives good torque in the 4krpm area then id go the 264 route.
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| « Re: (DrifterProdigy85) | 3:57 PM 11/11/2006 |
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264/264, or 272/272 Thats what idk get but I never really look into too aggressive cams.
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| Brian Crower Cams??? | 1:48 PM 11/14/2006 |
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Has anyone used the street/strip cams yet? They have the same duration but a higher lift than the HKS step 1 cams. It says that OEM spring is ok to use but still recommends upgrading to better springs and retainers? Is it really necessary to do so? If i raised my rev limiter i would mostly likely only raise it to 8000 rpm. I plan on getting some RAS also. I assume that they are great quality because of the name on them. Does anyone have input on them? They seem like a great alternative to the overpriced HKS, Toda, and Tomei cams.
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7-18-2006
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| « Re: Brian Crower Cams??? (I ask good questions) | 3:26 PM 11/14/2006 |
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yea im interested in hearing what people have to say about those cams too. i was checking them out last night on enjuku. the price was very attractive but if they arent worth the buck hks will be my first choice.
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norcals14
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95' 240sx se redtop swap
san diego ca
6-15-2006
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| « Re: (partymonster 975) | 8:10 PM 11/14/2006 |
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thanks for all the help guys.. i think im going to go with 272/272 step 2's
but what benefits would be seen from running a 264/272 setup?? better spooling without such an aggressive intake??
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11-15-2006
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| « Re: Brian Crower Cams??? (es-14) | 8:08 PM 11/15/2006 |
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i have set of the brian crowers 264's but i havent put them in yet until im done gathering all my "performance" parts and do it all at once. but the cams look good the i picked up a set for 200 brand new from a local. im going to put springs and retainers even though they say the stock springs are "ok" to use but since everything is going to be apart might as well.
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| « Re: Brian Crower Cams??? (drupie51013) | 10:04 AM 11/18/2006 |
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hey are you using the bc springs and retainers also, because i was lookin in to this setup, with the ras. studs, and new hg, i cant wait till you get them in to get sdome feedback... Thanks
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norcals14
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hello???
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Dugi
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i'm also wanting to upgrade cams. i'm going with brian crower cams 264/264. nothing really big. but what I want to know is are adjustable camgears a must?? or can the cams be put to zero like oem??
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Dugi
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I'm also going with these cams. ordering this week if everything goes well. i'll be changing my springs and retainers also. but got one question. are adjustable camgears also a must to change?? i've heard that when upgranding cams adjustables are a must. or is this false??
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vutony
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| « Re: (Dugi) | 5:55 PM 11/19/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Dugi » | | i'm also wanting to upgrade cams. i'm going with brian crower cams 264/264. nothing really big. but what I want to know is are adjustable camgears a must?? or can the cams be put to zero like oem?? |
No and you should do some HW before gettin BC
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| best set of cams | 4:04 PM 11/20/2006 |
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so im looking into doing some upgrades to the valvetrain on my sr and was looking into getting a set of cams but i dont know which ones would be good for my set up; im looking into either tomei type r, or hks step 3 cams with a 272 duration, ive searched and relly havent found any info to help with my current setup, switching from the stock t25 to a gt3076r. at about 30 psi with a a/r of .84. any help or other suggestions on cams please help me out with your opinions.
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| « Re: best set of cams (95silvia14) | 5:50 PM 11/20/2006 |
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2-16-2005
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| « Re: best set of cams (9240sx) | 7:10 PM 11/20/2006 |
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ok if you want the end all springs my man then you need to check out supertech springs..bit pricey but in the end you get what you pay for...all the springs are load tested to make sure they are all matching in the box and you can get different rates..all up to you..if you dont want valve float i would suggest not getting HKS or Greddy..not bashing them but if you want piece of mind go with a set of springs you wont have to worry about..if you are going to be a rev whore i woudl also strongly suggest setting yourself up with a set of solid lifters..the factory hydraulic lash adjusters dont really like going much past the stock rev range..and depending on your cam selection ive seen many SR's clicking off 10k rpm..with a proper head setup
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All recent threads about "what camshaft is best?" has been merged into this mega-thread. I will lock down further "what camshaft is best?" style threads in the future. please use this thread as a way to talk and discuss camshaft choices.
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norcals14
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95' 240sx se redtop swap
san diego ca
6-15-2006
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| « Re: (tenkawa_akito) | 8:35 PM 11/20/2006 |
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woah... i was like i never subscribed to a cam mega thread!! lol! well go me for starting an official mega thread!! anyways i have a question... i hear alot of people running 25+psi on their setups and call me a newb but coming from honda's and rotary's that sounds nuts... i assume that these ppl have stock bottom ends.. so what kind of head work is needed for that kind of boost??? everything and a fat gasket? or would my setup be fine??my setup:
.20 overbore w/ cp pistons
brand new head w/ 3 angle valve job and a street port/polish
greddy springs
crower retainers getting:
cams most likely hks 272 step 2's
solid lifters
cam gears
and probably jwt or bc valves... oh and most importantly a gt35r or a turbonetics 60 trim turbo
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norcals14
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| Quote, originally posted by norcals14 » | thanks for all the help guys.. i think im going to go with 272/272 step 2's
but what benefits would be seen from running a 264/272 setup?? better spooling without such an aggressive intake?? |
so what ARE the benefits of running a 264/272 setup?
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norcals14
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95' 240sx se redtop swap
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thats what i said... again lamest mega thread ever!!!! someone tell us the benefits of 264/272 setup!!!
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DrifterProdigy85
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Glen Rock PA
7-2-2005
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Benefits of a 264/272 setup is mainly powerband related. You get the starting powerband of the 264 camshaft with the ending of the 272 camshaft. Lets say you have a turbo that hits full boost at 4500rpm and holds to 8500rpm. The 264 will start giving gains at 4500rpm and the 272 will allow torque to hold all the way to 8500rpm. The 264/272 setup will deliver power earlier and hold longer but power wont peak as high as a straight 272 setup would. Camshafts are matched for the turbo thats chosen. The turbo is usually what makes the powerband and the cams allow the breathability for whatever RPM the turbo is working. No sense in having cams where they arent working at all. You can use smaller cams to effect spool up but the turbo is still gonna hit the hardest at a certain spot which is where i think the cams should be made to work. A good example is my car. Peak torque is 5krpm and holds solid to redline. Im running 264 Step 1 cams. You can feel the torque early in the revs but power is still not being made till later. I would benefit from a straight 272 setup. Might feel slower down low but it would make more torque and make more horsepower at redline. Maybe this ramble helps out some.
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DrifterProdigy85
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Glen Rock PA
7-2-2005
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Quick reference of Turbo and Cams to choose.T25...Stock, 256/256
T28...Stock, 256/256, 256/264
GT28RS....256/256, 256/264, 264/264
GT2871R .64.....256/264, 264/264
GT2871R .86.....264/264, 264/272, 272/272
GT3071R .63.....264/264, 264/272
GT30R.....264/272
GT35R.....272/272 Im sure this will bring in some kind of debate. These are the setups i would consider though. Lowest Cam profiles being for low end response for drifting and highest profiles being for max power for drag racing.
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11-11-2006
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| « Re: what cams do you recommend??? (norcals14) | 5:06 PM 12/5/2006 |
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someone help me... im about to get a 240sx. i use to own one but a old lady totaled it for me..... but im going to do an sr swap and i wanted a turbo setup that is for drifting but can also be really fast for drag. what size turbo would i need.? i was looking for over 450 hp. and what cam setup... 272/272? im new to cams and turbos. 
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1989 Nissan 240sx (Zenki Onevia)
Glen Rock PA
7-2-2005
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450hp and drifting isnt needed plus good luck finding good boost response for that kind of power. Your best bet is the 2871R .64 with HKS 264 Step 2 Cams. Probably be around 375whp with 20psi around 3600-3800rpm. Youll also be able to run mid 11's on drag radials.
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| « Re: (DrifterProdigy85) | 1:08 PM 12/10/2006 |
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So if I have an S15 t28 would Brian Crower 264 cams be a good upgrade?
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i think 264 would be too large because you would have a starting powerband of 4000rpm where the T28 starts at 3500rpm. A 256/264 combo will give a broad and peaky powerband.
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Dai Yoshihara has an S14, that used to run a S15 T28 and he used Tomei 256 Cams for drifting. 256 will give good low end torque with awesome midrange.
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| Brian Crower, anybody use them? | 8:05 PM 12/25/2006 |
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It's time for the build up of my top end. I am doing a somewhat budget build and found that the BC cams, springs, and valves are all decently priced. Just wondering if anyone has used them and what were the results. The head will be p&p, the block is running Wiseco pistons, eagle rods, and has been decked and the crank has been balanced. So I'll need a high rev set up.
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Brian Crower has a good rep with the L series guys. A friend of mine who used to build up old Z cars used a few of his cams and really liked them. But as of now, I have yet to see someone with an SR use his cams. I will say that the cams I have seen come out of Crower have been good quality (as far as older motors go).
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| « Re: (DrifterProdigy85) | 12:06 PM 12/26/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by DrifterProdigy85 » | | i think 264 would be too large because you would have a starting powerband of 4000rpm where the T28 starts at 3500rpm. A 256/264 combo will give a broad and peaky powerband. |
Im going to call up Brian crower and order a 256 intake and 264 exhaust cam. his valve springs and retainers.... Ill let you all know how it goes
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