TW: 13" Rotors, Caliper Bracket

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Before I go ahead and make brake caliper brackets to use 13" Cobra rotors with Z32 calipers (Front), I want to know how much interest there would be for this. Basically you would be getting the two brackets and hubcentric rings(or spacers for the lug bolts to keep the rotor centered) and all hardware needed for install. It will allow for the use of the 13" cobra rotors up front with your 300zx 4 piston calipers. Let me know what you think and how much you are willing to pay. I am thinking $55 a set would be fair, this price may vary depending on material cost, especially hardware cost. Cobra rotors are 330mm~13" x 28mm Please let me know if interested, production is dependant on interest.


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I would be intrested in a set.

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Sounds pretty interesting at a decent price

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Thanks for the interest. Please keep the replies coming. I will also be working on a bracket kit for the 350z track rotors which are 324mm as opposed to the 330mm cobra rotors. these will be a bit more expensive but still cheaper than the ones out there. I want to keep everything affordable, thats why I was going for the cobra rotors but i have seen the want for brackets to use the 350z track rotors with the z32 brake setup. plusses there are thicker rotor 30mm instead of 28mm on the cobra rotor, and you wouldnt have to use hubcentric rings to keep them centered. Oh and the fact that it is still Nissan... either way I will be working on 4 bracket kits total. Cobra rotors w/ z32 calipers; Cobra rotors w/ r33 calipers; z33 track rotors w/ z32 calipers; and z33 track rotors w/ r33 calipers

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i would be in trusted for some brackets for z33 rotors on z32 calipers let us know when you make them

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Z32 caliper w/ cobra rotor:Z32 caliper w/ 350z track rotor:ECR33 caliper w/ cobra rotor:ECR33 caliper w/ 350z track rotor:

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Definately interested. What would the prices be on the 4 different sets?

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I want the Z32 caliper w/ cobra rotor bracket & Z32 caliper w/ 350z track rotor bracket.
Modified by 574-240sx at 4:43 AM 10/7/2006

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so how much for the brackets for z32 calipers with 350z rotors

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Timtiminy wrote:Before I go ahead and make brake caliper brackets to use 13" Cobra rotors with Z32 calipers (Front), I want to know how much interest there would be for this. Basically you would be getting the two brackets and hubcentric rings(or spacers for the lug bolts to keep the rotor centered) and all hardware needed for install. It will allow for the use of the 13" cobra rotors up front with your 300zx 4 piston calipers. Let me know what you think and how much you are willing to pay. I am thinking $55 a set would be fair, this price may vary depending on material cost, especially hardware cost. Cobra rotors are 330mm~13" x 28mm Please let me know if interested, production is dependant on interest.
There already kits out there for the 13" cobra rotors. There are guys who make them for the z32 (AshZ), and guys with maxima's (Jeff92SE). Both of which will work for a 240sx. AshZ is more expensive because he sells his as a kit, but Jeff on maxima.org does sell the caliper brackets with the hub concentric rings to make the 13" cobra rotors fit (which are needed).

Im not telling you not to make them of course. It looks to me that you are making designs for a lot of options on SolidWorks maybe? Im all for it. Bring it straight to the 240sx community. If I remember, Jeff was selling the brackets and the hub-centric rings for about 50-60 like you were planning.

Plan on having a machine shop get it done?

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hurry i need brakes soon

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Today i will be getting pricing at some machine shops, this will determine the selling price. I want to keep the prices low and the quality high. i will be including all parts to make this work(hardware & hub rings depending on application) minus the rotors. I can get rotors but i dont have any type of wholesale accounts with that so unless i get that setup you wouldnt be getting the rotors any cheaper than you could get them elsewhere. I am aware of the availability of the other kits, I decided to offer what is out there and a couple more applications some which are unavailable, and keep the price very reasonable. I will have pricing as soon as i get some machine shop quotes. thank you all for your interest.Tim

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What type of material are you using, how thick? Very important questions for relocation brackets as many fall to the demise of heat and stress...

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240sx2nr95 wrote:What type of material are you using, how thick? Very important questions for relocation brackets as many fall to the demise of heat and stress...

-Dan


Dont want brake failure

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I make a bracket to relocate the Z32 caliper (the wider 30mm one) so you can use Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 rotors. They are laser cut from A572/50 mild steel. I didnt see much demand for this product, so I stopped advertising. I loved them on my car, ran them for over a year before I sold the car, and the new owner is still running them 6 months later. I was selling them for $50/set shipped in the USA.p.s. The VR-4 rotor is 12.36" diameter, and 1.18" thick.

Brackets by themselves

Stock pathetic S14 front rotor on right, new VR-4 rotor on left

Bracket mounted up to S14 front spindle

Finished product (those are 18" wheels)

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i looked into doing a kit wth the vr4 rotors but i've heard too many horor stories if the hat breaking away from the rotor ring. The brackets I will be making will be mild steel. they will be up for the high stress in braking components. shouldn't have any problems with failure.

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Would be interested in Z33 track rotors in Z32 caliper.

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Can you use 30mm Z32 calipers on a 28mm Cobra Rotor? If so I'll take a set.

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Timtiminy wrote:i looked into doing a kit wth the vr4 rotors but i've heard too many horor stories if the hat breaking away from the rotor ring. The brackets I will be making will be mild steel. they will be up for the high stress in braking components. shouldn't have any problems with failure.
Where do you hear these stories? I googled "3000gt VR4 rotor failure" and didnt find anything.It is very hard to believe that a rotor that freakin' huge could fail stopping a passenger car. If it were mounted on an F450 pulling a fully loaded car hauler trailer and going down Pikes Peak, then maybe.....Anyway, I have one set left. If anyone wants them, $40 shipped (supply your own hardware).Sorry. I didnt mean to Hijack your thread!p.s. Make sure you use an A572/50 mild steel, A36 is not held to as strict of chemical tolerances, and it is 14,000 psi weaker in yield.

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just what i have seen with the vr4 rotors. here is the link to the site with pictures toohttp://www.team3s.com/FAQbrokenrotor.htm

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that must have been scary! losing brakes at 100mph would not be fun.Anyway, he says in his write up that it was a matter of running too-thin rotors, I guess he turned them one too many times, they were way under the allowable thickness spec. I dont think that makes the rotor any less of a candidate for a brake swap, if you run a healthy rotor. What other horror stories have you heard about those rotors?

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yeah I saw that it was caused from over ran rotors, i dont know how that would affect the hat to break away from the rotor, unless it just started from the rotor cracking. anyhow doesnt matter anyhow. I should have product in the next two weeks or so. I'll keep you all posted.

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cant wait please let us know when we will be able to buy the brackets thanks

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nothing for a q45 caliper huh?

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q45 brackets could be a possibility in the future. I'll look into it

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a guy on the board a while back made a bracket so he could fit the sti brembo's on i think it was z32 rotors or somehing like that.

maybe something like an adapter kit so we could use these or the z33 brembo calipers and rotors would be nice.

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3000GT rotors are all junk.350Z rotors FTW

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you can use z33 brakes on your s chassis car all that needs to bee done is drill out the caliper mounting holes on your spindles to the bolt size of the z33 calipers and use z33 calipers. These brackets i will be making are a more cost effecient alternative to a full z33 brake swap. my cheapest brackets will be for the 300zx calipers with 13" cobra rotors. this should doo just as well if not better than the full z33 track brakes, especialy with the cost savings.

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How is the pad-to-rotor fitment? Does the pad overhang the rotor, or are the edges of the two flush? Does the caliper body have to be ground down at all to clear the Cobra rotor?

Here's what else I would like to see, while you're at it: A 240SX/Cobra rear brake upgrade, using the rear Cobra 11.65" vented rotor along with the Cobra sliding caliper. It would be a nice upgrade for the rear that would bolt right on without custom fabrication and still retain the factory style parking brake operation.

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there will be no need to grind the edges of the caliper but there will be pad over hang, it will be very minimal. millimeters at the most. not looking inot rear kit just yet as we all have the option of using 300zx rear brakes. i will look into it though. thanks


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