turbo2nr

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97 240sx (kouki)
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9-28-2005
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nice write up.1 question dont you need to balance the turbo again? after re installing everything?
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LEMHEAD16

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| « Re: (turbo2nr) | 8:30 PM 6/1/2006 |
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From what I read as long as you re-install everything in the same orientation it should be fine. That is why I indexed everything.
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pr240sx

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Excellent post Now some notes to consider. Most of the manufacturers balance each part independently. Check you compressor wheel, you should se some grinding done at the back, thats is the balancing job. Turbince wheels are balanced via the funny shape at the turbine wheel center. Note that the compressor nut loosens and tightens in reverse as normal nuts. A god rebuild should include all the gaskets and seals. Not all turbos use that type of thrust bearing. Check yours before ordering any part.Its almost absurd to pay more than 150 for a turbo rebuild including the kit. That is NOT including balancing, damaged compressor or backplate or damaged CHRA.


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wannawangan

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1993 NISSAN 240SX
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| « Re: Turbo rebuild DIY (LEMHEAD16) | 8:02 PM 6/13/2006 |
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This should be up for a turbo sticky. You should also put up a list of the tools you've used. I found that rebuilding my SR T25 was a PITA when I did not have the correct tools available! Good write up and reference! Thanks for the tool reference.
Modified by wannawangan at 8:09 PM 6/14/2006
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fiznat
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9-15-2002
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Excellent post, thank you!! Added it to the stickey 
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mirra32
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9-6-2004
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Awsome post!!!!I think i'm going to go ahead and rebuild my str8 T3 z31 turbo myself.....is the ebay kit ok....it would help me learn a little more as well...!!!http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1
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Mishka

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5-15-2004
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Looks like the compressor wheel needs to be replaced. Good info, though.
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Tastyratz
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| « Re: (Mishka) | 12:45 PM 7/6/2006 |
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Thanks for the writeup! fwiw I called gpopshop as well. They were extremely helpful with excellent customer service and gave me ideas to try before selling me a kit incase I didnt need it! they come from high regards by me as well.thought I would note a few things 0.030 (approx 1/32nd )snap ring ends should do the trick for most turbo rebuilds. snap rings can have a tapered edge and need to be seated 1 way (facing outward). soaking everything in oil for awhile beats coating in oil since the metal seems to breath the stuff in almost. I polished the inside of my compressor and venturi tunneled my turbo intake while mine was apart. Not a bad time to do things like this since its all blown up in front of you. Same with the idea of going to a 360deg thrust bearing if you can afford it....
another tasty post served up for you...
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Kenrik
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| « Re: (Tastyratz) | 4:52 PM 7/6/2006 |
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It only costs what? $20-$30 to get a turbo balanced (if you have a local shop) I think this is a great option, rebuild your own turbo then have it balanced by a pro and you're still only at about $100 for the rebuild

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Slipstream

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| « Re: Turbo rebuild DIY (wannawangan) | 7:35 PM 7/6/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by wannawangan » | | This should be up for a turbo sticky. You should also put up a list of the tools you've used. I found that rebuilding my SR T25 was a PITA when I did not have the correct tools available! Good write up and reference! Thanks for the tool reference. Modified by wannawangan at 8:09 PM 6/14/2006
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What tools did you need to rebuild the sr T25? I want to rebuild mine soon.
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Kenrik
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| « Re: Turbo rebuild DIY (Slipstream) | 10:06 PM 7/6/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Slipstream » | What tools did you need to rebuild the sr T25? I want to rebuild mine soon. |
just some basic Cresent wrenches.. I took one apart before.. never got around to putting it back together though.
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delinquentracer
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2-18-2005
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Another addition to this.When rebuilding a turbo. Everything should be measured to check clearances. As in with calipers and a bore mic. If the turbo had ecessive shaft play, there is a possibility that the turbine side piston ring will not seat properly, due to the shaft making its own groove. Same with comp. side. Although, more likely on turbine. The journal bearings inner diameter should be no larger than .003 of an inch clearance when compared to the diameter of the shaft. As with the clearance from the outer diameter of the bearings to the diameter of the bearing housing bore, where the bearings sit. There should be no more than a tiny gap between both piston rings. (comp side and turbine side) You should only be able to see this gap when puting the rings in by themselves where they sit in the seal plate and bearing housing and looking through them in a light. You will see a gap. If there is a noticably large gap.. this is a big sign of bad clearances. If these clearances are any larger than posted here, its time for some more new parts. I do not think this is a very good job of showing how to rebuild a turbo. A lot more needs to be added. Half the parts that should be replaced and checked are not even talked about or explained. And other parts are not explained correctly.
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| « Re: (mirra32) | 8:35 AM 8/28/2006 |
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That's pretty much what I used, and I converted mine to the TO4b.
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WDRacing
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Quick Note, The T3/TO4, atleast mine, has a reverse threaded shaft on the compressor side. Becareful when removing the nut as stripping the shaft or nut will lead to more problems. I added a note to your post, hope you don't mind bro. Excellent writeup WD

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LEMHEAD16

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1989 240sx Hatch, 2006 Frontier 4x4
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| « Re: (WDRacing) | 4:56 PM 8/28/2006 |
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I never said I was an expert at any of this so any additional information that people can add is more than welcome. We are all friends here exchanging knowledge we have learned! Kepp it up guys.
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wannawangan

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1993 NISSAN 240SX
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| « Re: (delinquentracer) - Feel free to add more info... | 9:22 PM 9/1/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by delinquentracer » | | Another addition to this. When rebuilding a turbo. Everything should be measured to check clearances. As in with calipers and a bore mic. If the turbo had ecessive shaft play, there is a possibility that the turbine side piston ring will not seat properly, due to the shaft making its own groove. Same with comp. side. Although, more likely on turbine. The journal bearings inner diameter should be no larger than .003 of an inch clearance when compared to the diameter of the shaft. As with the clearance from the outer diameter of the bearings to the diameter of the bearing housing bore, where the bearings sit. There should be no more than a tiny gap between both piston rings. (comp side and turbine side) You should only be able to see this gap when puting the rings in by themselves where they sit in the seal plate and bearing housing and looking through them in a light. You will see a gap. If there is a noticably large gap.. this is a big sign of bad clearances. If these clearances are any larger than posted here, its time for some more new parts. I do not think this is a very good job of showing how to rebuild a turbo. A lot more needs to be added. Half the parts that should be replaced and checked are not even talked about or explained. And other parts are not explained correctly. |
If that's the case, please specify. A more comprehensive approach to a DIY rebuild would be quite helpful for all us NICOnauts.
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wannawangan

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1993 NISSAN 240SX
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| « Re: Turbo rebuild DIY (Slipstream) | 9:37 PM 9/1/2006 |
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| Quote, originally posted by Slipstream » | | What tools did you need to rebuild the sr T25? I want to rebuild mine soon. |
- Bench vise - 13mm box wrench - 8mm box wrench - T15 Torx driver - Scribe - Snap ring pliers - Rubber mallet - Ballpeen hammer Other helpful items: - Liquid Wrench - Orange Degreaser - Synthetic Motor Oil - Drip Pan * "Leverage" tubes (1/2" - 1 1/2" x 12" metal pipes) * Allows for more torque on the box wrenches when removing stubborn turbine bolts!
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hawk240drifter

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1997 240sx se_______ 1991 240sx xe se
Pleasant View TN
8-4-2006
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| « Re: Turbo rebuild DIY (wannawangan) | 6:43 PM 3/1/2008 |
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awesome write up, i plan on doing this to my t25 soon.
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WDRacing
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| « Re: Turbo rebuild DIY (hawk240drifter) | 8:25 PM 3/1/2008 |
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Don't bump old threads for no reason.WD
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