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elwesso
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  The ultimate VH45DE FAQ


This thread is created with the intention for people to contribute as much information as possible.

Theres a TON of information on NICO about this engine, wether or not its in the FSM or not... I got an email from someone this afternoon and thought that would be a fantastic idea... Id like to compile this information, and then we can do an article on it or something..... The KEY is here I want anyone to be as involved as possible.. Whatever tidbit that you have that is helpful.. I just dont want a bunch of stupid things like I HATE THE PLENUM or THEY WEDGED THIS ENGINE IN THE CAR... Lets try and keep this technical...

Things I dont want are things not related to the engine... THIS IS ABOUT THE VH45DE!

So ill try and start with some basic things that Ive picked up.... this is from the FSM.. So any other tidbits that arent from the FSM is good... BTW if this info is wrong please correct...

Closed deck engine
6 bolt mains, 2 are crossed
274.22CI, 4494CC
Bore/stroke- 93x82.7mm (3.66/3.256in)
Multiport fuel injection with equal length runners
370CC injectors
2 compression piston rings
1 oil piston ring
10.2:1 Compression Ratio

Id like to see someone post a very accurate physical dimensions and weight...


EDIT: One other thing, if you have a technical question that isnt covered by this, much like what Rex is posting right below me, feel free to ask this so we can answer it.



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Are the injector top feed or side and are the low or high resistance, maybe even add the actual ohms??

Great thread idea BTW.



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Low resistance and side feed, 12-14ohms is the spec.
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1991-1994: 8 individual cast aluminum intake manifolds, each feeding into dual ports.

Each manifold has a cylinder number cast on one side which faces towards the valvecover when installed.

Intake manifold #8 also retains a side bracket that houses one of the fuel pressure regulators

Intake manifold to cylinder head bolts are 12mm, 2 per manifold
(Length & thread pitch?)

Intake to Cylinder Head gasket is metal (Thickness?)



Modified by anlasak at 2:51 PM 10/6/2005

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They changed it in 94 to a single opening instead of the 2 openings.
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Didn't they also swap the 8 manifolds out for a single intake manifold somewhere along the line?
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Not in the VH45, in the VH41 maybe.
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good thread idea.

Can we get some internal specifications? Like clearances/tolerances



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Sure let me post up some of those later.....
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http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread?id=140310

1991 Q45 Timing Chain Links/Pins
(May cover other years as well)

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thanks buddy!!! good info
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I noticed this thread has fallen a little behind.

So, How much boost do you think the stock internals can handle if temperature is not a factor?

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All i can say is that Slim is running about 10lbs, and it has PROVEN to be reliable. he drove it for over 2 hours each way to come to NOPI..... took it on a large drifting session earlier this week and its all good... He has stock internals AND a stock ECU with only the JWT Boost ECU!

SO much torque on this that people say they can see the chassis flexing!

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I don't want to get off subject but who is this "Slim" that has a boosted Q? I'd like to get the specs and details on what he's done.




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He has a boosted VH45DE in a 93 nissan 300ZX
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Quote, originally posted by elwesso »
All i can say is that Slim is running about 10lbs, and it has PROVEN to be reliable. he drove it for over 2 hours each way to come to NOPI..... took it on a large drifting session earlier this week and its all good... He has stock internals AND a stock ECU with only the JWT Boost ECU!

SO much torque on this that people say they can see the chassis flexing!


10lbs???



http://300zx.kwn.no/300ZX.mpg
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http://300zx.kwn.no/drift_300zx.wmv

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10lbs???


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How can I convert that to metric?
Do you meen 10 psi?
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Yeah 10lbs.. as in .68bar.
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Quote, originally posted by elwesso »
Yeah 10lbs.. as in .68bar.

Wow, he's injecting a vacuum into his engine!

Actually it'd be 1.68bar wes. 1 bar equals outside pressure. You're thinking of a pressure guage, not a barometer

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whatever.. its 10 PSI, anyone who doesnt understand that needs to..... well.. nevermind.
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Actually elwesso is correct 10PSI equals .6894757 bar to be exact. 1.68 bar is 24.36634 PSI, that would be a lot of boost!
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Quote, originally posted by qsiguy »
Actually elwesso is correct 10PSI equals .6894757 bar to be exact. 1.68 bar is 24.36634 PSI, that would be a lot of boost!

Well, considering that at sea level 1 bar is atmospheric pressure.

anything under one bar is lower then atmospheric pressure, which by definition is a vacuum.

A "boost guage" is actually a pressure guage, not a barometer. When it says 0, it's 0 above atmospheric pressure.

Whereas a barometer starts out at 14.7PSI, which is equal to one bar.

So depending on how you look at it, we're both right, BUT sinse he said the word "bar" that implies barometer

*edit* You guys are confusing a pressure guage with a barometer

24.36634psi - 10psi = 14.3psi, close to atmospheric

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1 pound per square inch = 0.07031 kilo per square centimeter
(1 kilo per square centimeter = 14.22282 pounds per square inch )

So it would be .70 ksc = 10 psi = .69 bar



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A-HA! I knew I was right.....

And the legend lives on! Wes>PMQ


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psig = Pounds per Square Inch (Gauge) - (10)
psia = Pounds per Square Inch (Absolute) - (24.7)

psia = psig + atmospheric pressure @ sea level (14.7psi)

I know Wes meant psig , which is what I wanted to know.

But since this is supposed to be THE ULTIMATE FAQ on the VH45DE, I should have spelled it out more clearly.

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'91 VH45DE cam tower bolts require a T-30 Torx bit.

(Clean out each bolt Prior to attempting removal !!)

I didn't get 1 completely clean & stripped out the bolt.

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I thought that boost was usually specified as guage pressure as opposed to absolute.

Mike

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I thought that boost was usually specified as guage pressure as opposed to absolute.

Mike

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It is.

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OK since no one wanted to do this, I decided id go for it......

VH45DE camshaft angles

Nitrous and VH45DE

More camshaft information

A chain guide thread but lots of good information

Supercharged VH45DE in a skyline

VH45DE in a 240

More power related info


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Forged pistons

Assorted good information

VH45 in a skyline

Nitrous and VH45DE

More


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Supercharged VH45DE in a skyline

All the pics on page 1 are red X's


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http://www.teamkrazy.com/members/johnv8/index.htm
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http://www.teamkrazy.com/members/johnv8/index.htm

Thats an interesting link. He went the opposite way my father was suggesting, (ie,.. RB series motor in my Q45)

Any detailed threads involving the hydraulic lash adjusters?
(I searched & came up with no results)

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Quote, originally posted by anlasak »
Thats an interesting link. He went the opposite way my father was suggesting, (ie,.. RB series motor in my Q45)

Any detailed threads involving the hydraulic lash adjusters?
(I searched & came up with no results)

The question remains... Why woudl you put an RB in the Q? that seems pretty stupid to me... UNLESS of COURSE you were talking with the ATESSA...

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UNLESS of COURSE you were talking with the ATESSA...


I was

But I didn't want to have to scrounge around for the rear end sensors/wiring/etc, that would've been needed to make it work properly.
Not to mention the other little things here & there.

Also if something goes bad on my VH45DE I can find it online or at a local junkyard.
I haven't seen an RB series motors in any junkyards lately.


Besides, I'm happy with my VH45DE.

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Ive always thought it would be cool to make an AWD Q.. relaly that would be the only reason I would put the RB motor in the Q.. If oyu were sticking with RWD, pretty stupid to go to an RB.
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Quote, originally posted by elwesso »
Ive always thought it would be cool to make an AWD Q.. relaly that would be the only reason I would put the RB motor in the Q.. If oyu were sticking with RWD, pretty stupid to go to an RB.


I like the idea of an AWD Q45 as well, but only if its a manual & I have one.

I wouldn't consider dropping in an RB series motor to be "stupid", merely impractical.
Stupid would be dropping in a SR20DE

( I wouldn't mind a 6-speed Gertrag though )

*EDIT* *Corrections made, see below*


Modified by anlasak at 9:38 PM 11/18/2005

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Quote, originally posted by elwesso »
If oyu were sticking with RWD, pretty stupid to go to an RB.

Nah, it makes perfect sense. Even though replacement parts are harder to find, it's still cheaper to maintain an Mod an RB then it is to do the same to a VH45.

THe RB can make plenty of torque if that's what you're "worried" about

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Nah, it makes perfect sense. Even though replacement parts are harder to find, it's still cheaper to maintain an Mod an RB then it is to do the same to a VH45.

Depends who you talk to!!

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