Discussion of E-Brake & Speed Sensor Override (instructions in "Stuck" thread)

PolarDog — 2009-11-14T06:57:14-08:00

New guy here with an '08 EX35 with the Premium Package (with Nav).

I have read through this thread with much interest.

Just to confirm: I am interested only in enabling those Nav options that are greyed out while the car is moving (don't need the video option). If I understand correctly, I need only to modify VSS pin 38. With the modification I lose my speed sensitive volume (which is okay with me), but there is no Nav delay or tracking problems etc...

Do I understand correctly or did I miss something?

Timmbo — 2009-09-12T19:39:01-08:00

Figured I would mention it, you could always go back and install a switch there, that way you can switch from "Stock" to "modified".

Re: (Timmbo)

sidsharma — 2009-09-09T12:24:08-08:00

Didnt notice that yet but since you have pointed that out, the next time i notice it, i will know why it stopped working.

Timmbo — 2009-09-09T09:14:07-08:00

Good to hear! Did you notice that your Speed Sensitive Volume no longer functions? Not a big deal, but it no longer works.

Re: (Timmbo)

sidsharma — 2009-09-09T08:19:16-08:00

Once i did a reset on the airbag sensor light, it has not come back again.

Timmbo — 2009-09-08T19:18:52-08:00

It sounds like one of the wires are incorrect. You should really make sure the correct wires were cut. Triple check all the pin locations. Don't worry about the color of the wires, it is ALL ABOUT THE PIN LOCATION! Done correctly, you should not have any "issue"lights. GOOD LUCK!

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (sidsharma)

sidsharma — 2009-09-06T18:48:30-08:00

After i restarted the car for the 4th time, the "Engine Service" light went away but the airbag light is still flashing. Any clue anyone?

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (Plumloco)

sidsharma — 2009-09-06T12:48:56-08:00

Hello Everyone,

I implemented this mod, today morning. The 2 wires were pink and voilet for me and the mechanic who did it told me that it doesnt matter what the colors are. We tested the system and everything worked except that i started seeing the airbag lights flashing and the "Service Engine Soon" warning on my dashboard. Did it happen to anyone on this forum? Any idea what could have caused it? We grounded both the wires coming out from the plug.

Thanks
Sid
2008 EX35 W/O Navigation

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (Timmbo)

Plumloco — 2009-07-19T13:05:33-08:00

Hey Timmbo. I took apart the center console and noted that number of pins in the back of my 08 non nav ex 35 differ than the ones on the wiring diagram. Any advice is greatly appreaciated.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (tjf2009)

Timmbo — 2009-07-12T20:03:24-08:00

Quote, originally posted by tjf2009 raquo;

Timmbo, I am a new member. Would this also work for the 2009 Murano LE?

Thanks

First off, welcome fellow Wisconsinite to NICOclub! Glad to have you as one of ours newest members. Enjoy the forum!

Yes, this sure does work on the '09 Murano LE, I have personally completed the mod on an '09 Murano LE. Here is a link to the thread in the Murano Forum with step by step pictures:

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...no-le

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (Timmbo)

tjf2009 — 2009-07-10T14:58:19-08:00

Timmbo, I am a new member. Would this also work for the 2009 Murano LE?

Thanks

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (d99gr81)

gloa2000 — 2009-07-01T19:03:02-08:00

it is in the STUCK thread, go check it plz.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (RobertN)

d99gr81 — 2009-07-01T12:38:32-08:00

Quote, originally posted by RobertN raquo;

zozo,
I would greatly appreciate it if you could take a few minutes to email me your words of wisdom regarding this topic also. lt;IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.nicoclub.com/forums/images/smilies/bowdown.gif" BORDER="0"gt;

thank you in advance!

Could someone please email me this info as well?

Thanks

Send to d99gr81@gmail.com

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (Gesemail)

dividedhighw — 2009-05-02T10:15:07-08:00

Amazing!!!

Thanks so much for sharing your experience and for directly answering my question!

Cheers,
David

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (dividedhighw)

Gesemail — 2009-05-01T17:20:26-08:00

Hello Everyone,

I'm here to offer my "success" story.

I have an '08 EX35 Journey w/Nav + Tech Package.

I am not a gear head by any means. I wanted it to look nice and I didn�t want the chance of scratching something, so I brought the car to a shop to do it (had to actually call like 3 places to find someone to do it). I also wanted the switch to look really nice. Since I don't have AWD, I don't have the center button (SNOW) in the center counsel. I went to the dealership and bought the button to use as the switch to activate the relays. I have to admit, my no means is that the economical way to do it. The button, which is just plastic cost me $85 with tax, it also took a week to come in. The switch has 6 pins and came with no schematics. When I brought the car to the shop, I told the guy he would have to figure out what the pins were.

So.. after about 4 hours of labor, I went to pic up my EX. It looked great and as if it was factory done. The button works perfectly while i'm driving. Incase anyone is wondering, they charged me $200, but that included the two relays they used.

In reference to dividedhighw's question: No, you can not turn the cameras on at any speed. I was a little baffled by this. I don't understand what other input the cameras are getting to inform them that the car is moving. The only thing I can think of is either A) the cameras some how have another Speed sensor type input for safety reasons or B) that the cameras are getting the VSS data "before" the relay. By that I mean where ever we are cutting the signal of the VSS, further down stream the cameras have already gotten the data. I think B seems more probable.

So in summary I am very happy with my purchase, it looks great, BUT if anyone knows or figured out how to use the cameras at any speed that would be awesome.

Gerard

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (NH2S)

dividedhighw — 2009-04-24T16:39:20-08:00

Welcome to NICO, NH2S!!

I vowed I wouldn't answer any more requests in this thread, but since you're new, I'll make an exception.

I have made the instructions and pics for this modification available from the 4th "STUCK" thread (visible on this page: http://forums.nicoclub.com/zeroforum?id=186). All interested members should access it from there instead of requesting an individual email.

HTH,
David

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (zozoka1212)

NH2S — 2009-04-24T12:36:20-08:00

Can you send it to me as well? This "safety" feature is driving me crazy. I have a 2009 Murano LE

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (dividedhighw)

gloa2000 — 2009-04-10T19:30:58-08:00

Quote, originally posted by dividedhighw raquo;

What year is that?

05' TOURING.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (gloa2000)

dividedhighw — 2009-04-10T16:56:15-08:00

Well, you can be jealous of my Tech/AVM, but I'm MORE jealous of your new toy!!! What year is that?

Cheers,
David

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (dividedhighw)

gloa2000 — 2009-04-10T09:12:19-08:00

Quote, originally posted by dividedhighw raquo;

gloa2000!! (I didn't realize you had no Tech/AVM)

Cheers,
David

Thanks for reminding me again, David... hehe

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (gloa2000)

dividedhighw — 2009-04-09T19:33:51-08:00

Thanks for the info pics, gloa2000!! (I didn't realize you had no Tech/AVM)

Cheers,
David

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (mhafez)

gloa2000 — 2009-04-09T18:04:36-08:00

Copied from the email I sent you.

Could you tell me how to remove the panel?

- I am not sure about which panel you are talking about but if you
meant the panel where the shifter is, then it was little tricky for me
to remove it but the whole idea was that i was too scared to break
anything on a 40k car, with little more force, you might be able to
take it apart from the bottom.

Also, I am considering buying the relay pack suggested in the forum to
make it easier. Do you reccomend that? I am not too worried about
the $50 if it makes it easier.

-If the relay pack has the function of switching on/off when it needs
to be, i would definately get one but I am not very sure if it has
that function.

Also, do I have to turn the switch to on when using the navigation,
and then turn it to off to watch movies while I drive? Is there a
solution in which the navigation will work and videos play while
driving without having to switch back and forth?

-As my last answer, i do not know, if i knew, mine would not have that
switch now....

I am toying with different options of what to install in my car. I
was toying with the idea of a mac mini loaded with movies or even an
evdo card and try to watch hulu in there but I don't think the speeds
will support it. What are you using it for?

-I use it as Slideshow from my Ipod, watch dramas from my ipod using
aux inputs, I also use it as my own screen of laptop when my wife
watches stuff from the back seat.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (gloa2000)

mhafez — 2009-04-09T17:32:23-08:00

So I am not quite sure I get it. I have the navigation, so does that mean I have to turn the switch to on when using the navigation, and then turn it to off to watch movies while I drive? Is there a solution in which the navigation will work and videos play while driving without having to switch back and forth?

Also, can you provide instructions on how to remove the panel for units with navigation. I tried using the instructions posted but my dash area looks different and I don't know how to proceed.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (gloa2000)

gloa2000 — 2009-04-09T16:05:33-08:00

Additional info might be useful.

-For me, the color of the wire and description in the manual matched, violet and red i guess, but be careful another reported theirs are differ.

-With switch on position, you can still watch video through the AUX when the car is not in motion and with the switch in off, you can watch whenever but reverse.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (dividedhighw)

gloa2000 — 2009-04-09T14:46:04-08:00

Quote, originally posted by dividedhighw raquo;

You're VERY welcome for the instructions, gloa2000, though most of the thanks goes to zozo!

I appreciate your post because I've yet to do this myself and I had suspected the VSS was needed by Navigation but now you've confirmed it!

Two questions:
1. What specifically didn't work properly when the VSS wasn't connected?
2. What type of switch did you get? (e.g. type, part number, etc - whatever you have ... a pic might be nice too!) Timmbo mentions a "relay pack" but I wasn't really clear on why a simple switch wouldn't work.
3. Could you please confirm that now (with the switch off), you can turn the AVM cameras ON at any speed?

Cheers,
David

1. What specifically didn't work properly when the VSS wasn't connected?
- On Nav, car would steer but wont move forward when driving.

2. What type of switch did you get? (e.g. type, part number, etc - whatever you have ... a pic might be nice too!) Timmbo mentions a "relay pack" but I wasn't really clear on why a simple switch wouldn't work.
- I just installed simple switch from the Kragen autoparts, it was about to get dark so i just left it in my coin tray area.(Will work on it later to put Nissan/Infiniti switch on the empty switch area on the center console or left to steering wheel where AFS switch is.

3. Could you please confirm that now (with the switch off), you can turn the AVM cameras ON at any speed?
- Hmmm, I think I'm being offended here J/K.... I dont have TECH.... nor AVM...

[Picture of switch]
I decided to put the switch on the coin area(which i use it as...) for temporary, since it was afternoon it was about to get dark, and i had no tools to make holes to fit the switch.

[Picture of Gear in "D", and Movie is playing]

[Bonus Picture of my New Toy~]

Modified by gloa2000 at 3:30 PM 4/9/2009

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (dividedhighw)

aft981 — 2009-04-06T13:17:25-08:00

Someone has finally tried this?! Great!

Also have a quick question, as this has been bugging me since I got this car.....as well as being able to view video on the screen while driving, are ALL the on screen menu options now available while moving at gt;5mph??

The ones that are currently locked, which makes NO sense to me are:
Nav - if I want a previous destination that I went to more than 5 trips ago, I have to pull off the road and stop before I can put it in.
Nav - address book you can only see the first few, again, you have to stop to put it in.
Phone book - same as address book.
Traffic - When I'm sat crawling at 8mph on the hwy, and I pull up the traffic info, not all the info is displayed....it tends to miss off the bit about HOW FAR the current traffic queue lasts for, unless you stop completely and can then scroll! You can also only see a few traffic items on the screen, it won't let you scroll to see ones that are further away. I live near a couple of sets of long term roadworks, and they always take up the first few lines, so I really only get to see 1 or 2 items of interest.

They really didn't think some of this stuff out.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (gloa2000)

dividedhighw — 2009-04-06T12:14:44-08:00

You're VERY welcome for the instructions, gloa2000, though most of the thanks goes to zozo!

I appreciate your post because I've yet to do this myself and I had suspected the VSS was needed by Navigation but now you've confirmed it!

Cheers,
David

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (dividedhighw)

gloa2000 — 2009-04-06T10:29:35-08:00

Thanks to your Instruction, I did the mod yesterday. I didnt know i had to install the switch on VSS wire for GPS to work so i opened it twice. took me about an hour. TY David.

Timmbo — 2009-02-11T18:11:04-08:00

Click on the link a few posts up. All the instructions are there (with pictures). If you need any help or have any questions, let me know, I have done this mod on an Armada and a Murano.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (zozoka1212)

Dustoff2 — 2009-02-10T19:15:54-08:00

Hi there Zozo and help on instructions to bypass parking brake would be greatly appreciated.. 09 Nissan Murano SL Premium package... no Navi...
Pleae send to paul.hunter@comcast.net... Thanks a million in advance.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (drdamian)

Timmbo — 2009-01-19T19:26:55-08:00

Quote, originally posted by drdamian raquo;

i would like to hear feedback on anyone that has done this if you have NAVIGATION

I have done this on my Armada with Navigation. It has the exact same set-up as your EX35. You definately want to purchase the relay pack from Shane @ Tintmasters unless you can figure the relay thing out on your own, I know I couldn't, but with the relays already pre-wired with a switch, the mod takes about a half hour from start to finish. Let me know if you have any questions

BY THE WAY, this mod DOES NOT affect your MPG or Distance to Empty, or anything else like that on your Nav screen. It DOES allow you to input destinations while you are moving and watch video on your front Nav screen with the flip of a switch. If you switch from watching video back to Navigation, it usually only takes a few seconds for the Navigation to catch up to where the vehicle is.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (st_donjuan)

drdamian — 2009-01-19T18:26:15-08:00

i would like to hear feedback on anyone that has done this if you have NAVIGATION

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (gloa2000)

st_donjuan — 2009-01-19T17:59:21-08:00

Quote, originally posted by gloa2000 raquo;

any success story yet? I will be doin it this weekend, wanted to see some success story before i mess with my 40k toy. otherwise i will update with my story next monday.

I've done in in less than an hour.
The wires are not same color, thou.
Works flawlessly.
Thanks guys for useful info.

Mike

Timmbo — 2009-01-17T09:43:26-08:00

If anyone is interested in ordering the relay pack pre-wired and ready to install, visit the thread below to order from Shane (tintmasters). This works and the install is very easy.

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/301458

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (dlpiet)

Timmbo — 2009-01-12T12:53:46-08:00

Quote, originally posted by dlpiet raquo;

Zozo - If you're still out there, would you mind sending the instructions to a new member? I'm a new owner of an 08 M45x. My e-mail is dlpieter@gmail.com. Thanks very much.
Dave

Instructions for the EX35 are here:

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...rride

Instructions for the Armada/QX56 are here:

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/301458

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (dividedhighw)

dlpiet — 2009-01-11T06:02:55-08:00

Zozo - If you're still out there, would you mind sending the instructions to a new member? I'm a new owner of an 08 M45x. My e-mail is dlpieter@gmail.com. Thanks very much.
Dave

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (willember)

Timmbo — 2009-01-10T12:31:59-08:00

Quote, originally posted by willember raquo;

What effect does doing this mod have on the vehicle warranty?

It shouldn't effect your warranty, but when I did this mod on my Armada, I completed this mod using the relays, therefore there is an off (stock) position on the switch, and an on (mod) position. This way by the flip of a switch the vehicle can retain the factory wiring and position. I did a similar mod to my '04 QX56 and I never had any warranty issues.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (gloa2000)

willember — 2009-01-10T00:11:44-08:00

What effect does doing this mod have on the vehicle warranty?

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (grande2093)

gloa2000 — 2008-12-30T16:36:51-08:00

any success story yet? I will be doin it this weekend, wanted to see some success story before i mess with my 40k toy. otherwise i will update with my story next monday.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (siehead)

grande2093 — 2008-12-26T18:14:26-08:00

If anyone picks this up. Is it possible to send me the link to accomplish this? I know there are several people out there that have it done. I just want to use the component inputs in the arm console.

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (zozoka1212)

gmason001 — 2008-12-17T14:10:32-08:00

zozo...would love to get information with regard to the above title. any idea if the info you have would pertain to a 2009 Maxima?

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (dividedhighw)

caseyj222 — 2008-12-15T20:28:06-08:00

can someone email me the instructions for disabling the motion sensor gps?

caseyjburke@gmail.com

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (Gesemail)

dividedhighw — 2008-12-13T18:43:14-08:00

Hey Gesemail,

One of the wires being "modified" is the Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) line which sends a pulsed signal as an indicator of vehicle speed. Just download the PDFs and have a look.

Cheers,
David

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (gloa2000)

Gesemail — 2008-12-13T17:10:44-08:00

So I haven't actually tried this mod, But...

I have an EX 35 with Nav+Tech.

I went to a garage and asked them if they could make my car think its not moving at all times. They told me the car has a giroscope that it uses to know when the car is in motion. They make parts that are connected in between the giro and the car's "brain" to fool it. They said they have parts for other cars, but one hasn't been fully developed for the new EX yet.
Not sure if they are 100% correct or not. The giro thing makes sense, but the question if anyone else can do it for me, I plan to keep looking.

Also just FYI, they told me the part is about $75 and then labor shouldn't be more than an hour. So, at least in my eyes, I would rather just pay someone to do it.

(completely not relevant, but they just had so many Christmas Icons I felt like I had to use one)

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (zozoka1212)

sanddigger — 2008-12-13T13:34:32-08:00

Hey zozo... I've got an '07 G35x, no nav. If your 'bypass' instructions apply, would you mind emailing to me (mrenaudlt;atgt;karetechlt;dotgt;com)? Thanks!

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav

gloa2000 — 2008-12-12T16:51:14-08:00

Does anyone have success story in this mod?

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (bedn0009)

dividedhighw — 2008-12-02T20:00:18-08:00

Welcome, bedn0009!

No more emails - look instead at the "STUCK" threads on the front page of the forum.

Cheers,
David

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (gloa2000)

bedn0009 — 2008-12-02T19:57:59-08:00

Please email me as well. bedn0009@hotmail.com. Thank you.

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (dividedhighw)

gloa2000 — 2008-12-02T18:41:25-08:00

TY David, this is very easy process comparing to other mods i have done with my other cars.
simple question, would this mod allow me watch videos while vehicle is moving? or will it only allow me to use NAV grayed out buttons(along with the bth keypad options and more) when the car is moving? since I am only interested in playing my ipod's slide show when im driving.

Thanks in Advance David, TY for opening eyes of the EX noobs

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (gloa2000)

dividedhighw — 2008-12-02T17:44:34-08:00

Quote, originally posted by gloa2000 raquo;

I have EX with NAV, and the car in pictures appears it does not have one, is it same procedure?

If you have downloaded the files, read the text and you'll see several places where it refers to how vehicles with Nav differ.

HTH,
David

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (voltron22)

dividedhighw — 2008-12-02T17:42:41-08:00

(This was answered off-line, but I'll provide the answer here, in case any others are reading this.)

Quote, originally posted by voltron22 raquo;

I was attempting to perform the e-brake and vehicle speed sensor override on my 2007 G35x, and I had a few concerns. I can't shift the car into drive w/o starting it, as opposed to putting it into drive with just the accessory power on and e-brake engaged. So, when I do turn the engine on and put it into drive and then turn the engine off, an alarm sounds. Is there another way to perform this step without sounding the alarm? Or am I just a moron and doing this wrong - be honest.

You need to press the "Start" button twice without pressing the brake pedal, to put the car into "On" position without starting it. Then put the e-brake on, and you can safely shift it to "Drive". Now, press the "Start" button again, to turn the car "Off".

Quote, originally posted by voltron22 raquo;

And just for the sake of clarity, ground both the e-brake and VSS pins that feed the plug? Then insulate (wire nut or electrical tape) the exposed wires coming from the chassis?

You got it.

Cheers,
David

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (dividedhighw)

gloa2000 — 2008-12-02T16:24:37-08:00

Quote, originally posted by dividedhighw raquo;

Welcome, geminiash ... have a look at the 3rd post above your first one.

I have EX with NAV, and the car in pictures appears it does not have one, is it same procedure?

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (bokingwen)

voltron22 — 2008-11-21T16:23:08-08:00

And just for the sake of clarity, ground both the e-brake and VSS pins that feed the plug? Then insulate (wire nut or electrical tape) the exposed wires coming from the chassis?

Thanks!
voltron22

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (geminiash)

bokingwen — 2008-11-04T10:02:18-08:00

wow, this is great info but I am not that sure I am techie enough to do all that. Thanks OP!

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (dividedhighw)

geminiash — 2008-10-07T13:07:45-08:00

Thaks
for your help with the instructions. Have you tried to make the change? If so does it work?

Re: disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav (geminiash)

dividedhighw — 2008-10-07T08:20:25-08:00

Welcome, geminiash ... have a look at the 3rd post above your first one.

disabling parking requirement for viewing video playback& nav

geminiash — 2008-10-07T07:44:35-08:00

Please send me the email. geminiasg@yahoo.com

Re: disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback (zozoka1212)

geminiash — 2008-10-07T07:42:01-08:00

Pleae send the picture instructions mentioned in your email for disable park requirement for GPS use and video playback . I really appreciate it. Thanks

Re: (Roy Cya)

dividedhighw — 2008-10-02T17:16:54-08:00

Er, Roy ... what exactly did you think I meant by "no more emails"?

Re: (dividedhighw)

Roy Cya — 2008-10-02T16:27:54-08:00

Hey Zozoka,

As a new owner and member I thank you and others like you for sharing good stuff like this with anyone and everyone that asks...

Please add me to the list of folks to send the files to. My email addy is: rceste@gmail.com.

Thanks!