Re: How To: Build an Amp By-Pass/Delete Harness (Adnan)

bowlchop — 2009-11-19T07:51:01-08:00

I can confirm that the build amp by-pass/delete harness does work for the S14 with the clarion stereo as I completed this mod while waiting for my new stereo to come in.

I am not as patient when it came to desoldering the connectors. I ended up cutting out the connectors...the board breaks rather easily with a pair of wire cutters.

I also found it difficult to solder wire to the connector when I cut the pins down at a length of 5mm and so I left them at the longest length possible, soldered the connections, test and then used a glue gun and glued inbetween the pins to ensure they dont touch each other and a good winding of electrical tape to complete.

I had the stock stereo in for a good 2 weeks waiting for my stereo to arrive and without the stock amps the full power of the stereo produces a sound close to elevator background music. Glad that is all over and in the past.

Re: How To: Build an Amp By-Pass/Delete Harness (the converted)

Adnan — 2008-10-31T08:23:55-08:00

thanks...i have tought of this i dont wanna use a rca converter
cause my subs would over power the stock speakers so all i would be hearing is bass....im gonna start from scratch in the spring

Re: How To: Build an Amp By-Pass/Delete Harness (twistedsymphony)

Hoffman5982 — 2008-10-29T20:47:53-08:00

wait so do i have to do this if i want to add an aftermarket amp to power my speakers?or do i use the preamps on the headunit to do that?lol sorry im not a genius when it comes to sound systems but im working on it

Re: How To: Build an Amp By-Pass/Delete Harness (Adnan)

the converted — 2008-10-20T07:26:13-08:00

It is completly different. I forget if there is a factory sub in that or not, but if there is you will want to use a hi-low converter to keep it. Otherwise you can bypass the amps but you'll have to get into the front doors and the rear 1/4 if you want to do it that way.

Re: How To: Build an Amp By-Pass/Delete Harness (the converted)

Adnan — 2008-10-17T16:51:49-08:00

is this the same case for a pathfinder with bose (2001)
i wanna toss in my alpine deck and it has 3 amps 2 in the front doors
1 in the rear trunk compartment

Re: How To: Build an Amp By-Pass/Delete Harness (twistedsymphony)

the converted — 2008-05-07T14:50:27-08:00

It's in there, and I sent you an email.

Re: How To: Build an Amp By-Pass/Delete Harness (the converted)

twistedsymphony — 2008-05-07T08:44:56-08:00

Quote, originally posted by the converted raquo;

Nice write up, mind if I add it to the FAQ?

Please do!

Re: How To: Build an Amp By-Pass/Delete Harness (twistedsymphony)

the converted — 2008-05-07T08:38:46-08:00

Nice write up, mind if I add it to the FAQ?

How To: Build an Amp By-Pass/Delete Harness

twistedsymphony — 2008-05-07T06:26:18-08:00

This tutorial describes how to build a harness that will let you remove the factory Nissan amplifier without cutting any wires. This is for Nissans equipped with the premium sound system 1995 and up; while specifically written for S14 Chassis cars the procedure should be the same or similar for all Nissans with a factory amp.

Disclamer:
I take no responsibility for anything you do as a result of reading this thread. This information is provided with no warranties. Proceed at your own risk.

Preface:
Those who own S14's with the factory CD player also have to deal with the factory installed Clarion amplifiers in the trunk. The existence of these amplifiers make installing an after-market stereo somewhat of a pain. Since the amp is made by a name brand and tuned specifically for the factory speakers, it's actually in your best interest to leave it be, even if installing an aftermarket head unit. When doing so it's advised that you use the pre-amp outputs of your head unit and NOT the speaker outputs that normally connect to the factory harness. You'll want to look for an "amp integration" type harness when utilizing the factory amplifier and not your head unit's internal amplification.

Those of us, like me, who wish to replace the factory speakers are actually better off removing the factory amplifier in lieu of amplification from the head unit or through a stand alone aftermarket amplifier. Unfortunately there isn't a single company on the market that makes an "amp delete" or an "amp bypass" harness. Sure they exist for other cars, but not premium sound system equipped Nissans. This leaves most people with limited options.

Option A: Cut the factory amp harness and splice the inputs and outputs together. Leaving you unable to re-install the factory equipment.
or
Option B: Don't even use the factory wiring and run your own wiring throughout the car. Adding a ton of extra work and adding more unnecessary weight to the car.

I'm going to give you an Option C... build your own amp bypass/delete harness. Utilize the factory wiring, and retain the ability to re-install the factory amp if you so desire.

Tools Needed:
-Soldering Iron
-Some kind of de-soldering tool (desoldering iron, pump, or wick)
-#2 Phillips screw Driver
-Wire Cutters/strippers
-Optional: Multimeter
-Optional: Helping Hands (if you don't know what this is)

Supplies Needed:
-An extra Factory amp set (can be out of any Nissan that uses a similar amp, it also doesn't need to be functional as long as the connectors aren't physically damaged)
-20Ga Wire
-Electrical Tape

Step 1: Disassemble the Factory Amps
The amps are easy to take apart. there are numerous screws holding the mounting brackets to the amps and holding the amps together. Simply remove every screw that is visible from the outside of the amp. Once they're all removed the Amp housing should come apart into 2 pieces and completely detached from the circuit board inside.

Step 2: Desolder the Connectors
Use your desoldering tool of choice to desolder the connectors from the circuit board. Also note that the metal shielding of the connectors is soldered in 3 places, this will give you the most trouble. If you don't have a tool at your disposal I highly recommend buying a desoldering iron from Radio Shack. They're relatively cheap and are far and wide superior to any other desoldering tool under $200.

Step 3: Prep the Connectors
I straightened all of the pins on the connectors and then trimmed them down to roughly 5mm each. The idea was to leave enough length that they were easy to solder to, but make them short enough that they wont easily bend to make accidental contact with one another.

Step 4: Wire the Connectors
The when looking at the back of the connector with the screw hole to your left the pinout is as follows.

Quote raquo;

1.LCH(+)IN
2.LCH(-)IN
3.RCH(+)IN
4.RCH(-)IN
5.LCH(+)OUT
6.LCH(-)OUT
---------------
8.RCH(-)OUT
---------------
10.RCH(+)OUT
11.ACC
12.GND
13.ON/OFF
---------------
15.TWL+
16.TWL-
17.TWR+
18.TWR-

The front and rear amp connectors are identical except the rear amp connectors are missing pins 15-18. If you're doing this mod for a different car then the pinout might be different, check the circuit board for labels. The Amps in the S14 labeled all of the pins which is how I was able to determine which pin was which.

For the sake of this project you only need to worry about pins 1-10 everything else on the connector is either not necessary for this mod, or not used by the S14. I recommend leaving the unneeded pins in-tact though, as they would be quite useful in other projects down the road.

You'll want to make the following connections:
Pin1lt;-gt;Pin5
Pin2lt;-gt;Pin6
Pin3lt;-gt;Pin10
Pin4lt;-gt;Pin8

In general you're connecting the "input" wires to the "output" wires as if the amp didn't exist and the signal goes right through it. you'll need to make these connections for both the front and rear amp connectors.

To make the connections heat up each pin on the connector and coat them with solder. Then cut small bits of wire and strip both ends, to make a jumper that will reach from one pin to the other, heat up both stripped ends of the wire and coat them with solder. Finally solder the wire in place connecting the appropriate pins (a set of helping hands is quite useful for this step). Make sure that you don't bridge any pins together, and that you didn't accidentally solder the pin to the metal shield of the connector. Also make sure that there is a nice solid connection between the pin and the wire.

Step 5: Test and Protect
Once you've got it all soldered up, inspect it for errors, double check your pins match the pinout above and that no two adjacent pins are connected, if you have a multimeter it'd be a good idea to double check everything with it. Once you're confident that everything is done right wrap all of the connections in electrical tape to make sure that none of the pins make contact with other electrical objects in the car.

Congratulations, you've made a really simple amp-bypass harness, now your factory wiring is intact. Don't ask me my why no company makes these to sell, it would be quite easy for them to do... as you can tell it's fairly easy to build yourself as long as you've got the tools and parts.

Modified by twistedsymphony at 8:49 AM 5/7/2008

Modified by twistedsymphony at 2:29 PM 5/7/2008