Captain's Build Thread (56k how cute)

Re: Captain's Build Thread (S13s30ztt)

urcaptnspeaking — 2009-10-16T12:11:05-08:00

it only cost me at the time like 20 bucks . So by all means I would have bought it if you would have sold it to me shipped for that.

And The car has been sold for almost a year now... I was certain I put that in this thread. Getting married and so on leaves little room for toys that need so much work. I haven't even been on this site for.. a few months. I will be back though : ) and with a new project now that things are getting settled down.

IF you read the thread you will understand that I by no means claim this to be the best method. Hell to be honest I just did it to see if I could do it and make it look right, make it function, and to see if i was up to that kind of extensive work. Oh and btw the hatch is still holding up..per new owners words

Re: Captain's Build Thread (DriftBoy07)

S13s30ztt — 2009-09-09T18:12:52-08:00

eh sorry lol kinda new to this forum dun know how to quote only one thing here but yeah most of the bodywork he did i would have done a more permanant fix of using sheeetmetal and a tig welder which i have on hand (bought tig welder for 90 bucks at a swap meet its worth every penny

Re: Captain's Build Thread (DriftBoy07)

PooPooButter323 — 2009-09-09T10:09:49-08:00

i would have sold you a wingless hatch in perfect condition for less than all that body filler and fiberglass cost haha

Re: Captain's Build Thread (nightsauce)

DriftBoy07 — 2009-09-02T18:11:06-08:00

Quote, originally posted by nightsauce raquo;

1. You quoted all the damn pictures :|
2. i guess i can say zombie thread....but i wanna know if there have been any updates now that its alive again

Re: Captain's Build Thread (S13s30ztt)

nightsauce — 2009-09-02T17:55:23-08:00

1. You quoted all the damn pictures :|
2. i guess i can say zombie thread....but i wanna know if there have been any updates now that its alive again

Re: Captain's Build Thread (urcaptnspeaking)

S13s30ztt — 2009-09-02T16:53:35-08:00

Quote, originally posted by urcaptnspeaking raquo;

Ok gents I said thered be an update so here it is, better late then never... Tell your girlfriend that eh... get it lt;IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.nicoclub.com/forums/images/smilies/badboy.gif" BORDER="0"gt;

Id like to think my hatch was worst case scenario (I could be wrong) but it was bad..ya dig? the point of this and me not buying a new one is to show it can be done with just a few things/time. Its not for every one but it will keep your car "original" so to speak. I am by no means a body work guru nor do I claim to be with that in mind, here we go!

I made a point to use tools common to most every one. No welders or air tools here. So even you,yes you, can do it too lt;IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.nicoclub.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"gt;

Step 1

[Weapon ("The Tooth")

Cut out weak metal like so

Step 2

Weapon ("Patches")

Make a nice place for the Bondo to rest its sleepy head

Like So..

And So..

Weapon ("Cover Girl")

Cover over the holes and fiberglass with a nice layer

Like So..

And So

Dont forget to sand that now

Another coat and sand again kiddies

Dont forget her curves she is a valupcious lady after all. Work it down til its just right and matches her body

After all that work put on her temporary make up so she can look presentable when showing her off

And there you have it fixed hatch boys

Ok I just used basic 80-120 grit and an orbital sander. Theres a trick to using an orbital on body work...so dont just hack away...go with the curves keeping it moving along the shape of the body.

It only took me like 3 hours total work time with some diddling between...so not too bad. lt;IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.nicoclub.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"gt;

And Yes I know its not perfect I ran out of light and I promised an update so I went ahead and got that far and put the pics up. Thats only the first coat of primer, which we all know is the "revealing" coat and shows all the things you forgot to do. So when I get it all worked out Ill put more pics up tomorrow.

Stay tuned.

*shudders at the hackjob* wow effective but damn ....I would have cut square holes around not those big ovals as for the bonda and foberglass fill patchjob its gonna hold moisture and the edges of the metal around the patch are gonna rust....how quickly depends on your climate just a lil heads up ...but good job anyways

way i was taught by my autobody teacher was make the hole square use a airtool(i dun remember the name of it) to make a small bend on the edge of the hole make a patch out of sheet metal 16 guage to 20 guage will work thn weld using a alternating bead pattern till the patch is fully welded grind down then primer and paint..........for those of you who are say welders are expensive i bought a mig for 90 bucks from a swapmeet and i have a tig that i bought for 150

Quote, originally posted by urcaptnspeaking raquo;

Step 1

[Weapon ("The Tooth")

Cut out weak metal like so

Step 2

Weapon ("Patches")

Make a nice place for the Bondo to rest its sleepy head

Like So..

And So..

Weapon ("Cover Girl")

Cover over the holes and fiberglass with a nice layer

Like So..

And So

Dont forget to sand that now

Another coat and sand again kiddies

Dont forget her curves she is a valupcious lady after all. Work it down til its just right and matches her body

After all that work put on her temporary make up so she can look presentable when showing her off

And there you have it fixed hatch boys

Ok I just used basic 80-120 grit and an orbital sander. Theres a trick to using an orbital on body work...so dont just hack away...go with the curves keeping it moving along the shape of the body.

It only took me like 3 hours total work time with some diddling between...so not too bad. lt;IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://images.nicoclub.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"gt;

Stay tuned.

one word man OUCH lol not the way i would have done it but least u got the job done

Re: Important Update ! (tramp_drift240)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-10-08T12:33:30-08:00

true man. I hate it.

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

tramp_drift240 — 2008-10-08T12:15:02-08:00

true that.

its still raining

i seriously want to know how yesterday was so damn nice outside, and now its....this.

Re: Important Update ! (White Comet)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-10-08T12:12:39-08:00

and when it stops raining it would be nice too. so we could fix it.

Re: Important Update ! (tramp_drift240)

White Comet — 2008-10-08T04:36:07-08:00

because i had both laying around. well, i went and bought the primer stuff and then noticed my dad had the rust stuff stuff in teh garage already. if youre jsut gonig to use 1 though, go with rust tough

Re: Important Update ! (White Comet)

tramp_drift240 — 2008-10-07T21:00:04-08:00

why both?

Re: Important Update ! (tramp_drift240)

White Comet — 2008-10-07T19:21:16-08:00

Quote, originally posted by tramp_drift240 raquo;

should i get the spray that sprays on clear, and turns into black primer? or just the rust tough stuff that supposedly stops it.

sed both, first the stuff that turns to primer, then rust tuff

Re: Important Update ! (tramp_drift240)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-10-07T17:49:41-08:00

after doing some research a fully dressed LS1 with t56 weighs around 575lbs. The motor itself is around 450 lbs

Re: Important Update ! (White Comet)

tramp_drift240 — 2008-10-07T16:41:02-08:00

for realz.

and the miata's motor has got to weigh less than a ka. im not positive, but im fairly sure they arent primarily composed of heavy ass iron.

should i get the spray that sprays on clear, and turns into black primer? or just the rust tough stuff that supposedly stops it.

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

White Comet — 2008-10-07T11:10:47-08:00

thats not bad if thats true but i find it hard to believe without proof that a 2.4 liter 4 cylinder, 1.6 liter 4 cylinder and 5.7 liter 8 cylinder are all the about the same weight. the ls is obviously a light motor for what it is, but nowhere near as light as the other 2 engines mentioned

Re: Important Update ! (White Comet)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-10-07T09:26:40-08:00

I havent thought about clutch and flywheel much as I wont be putting much more than stock power down. Just cammed. The clutch should hold that, But I will look into them. Also Ive read on 3 different cars that It maintains its 50/50 weight distribution. THe motor assembled is less than a KA which probly is around the same as the Miatas motor. Ive read one site that said it was 53/47. either way they all said it was virtually unnoticeable.

"The chassis and drivetrain pair together as if it were meant to be from the factory. The Miata throttle cable falls into place in the LS1 throttle body and the T56 shifter pops in the center of the factory shifter location. The converted car makes for a balanced (able to obtain 50/50 with suspension tweaking), lightweight (neighborhood of 2400lbs.), and extremely sporty car (300rwhp,300rwtq). Plus, no one expects it!" -Racing Concepts

I think I read somewhere on there with no suspension mods is when it was 53/47

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

White Comet — 2008-10-07T04:16:36-08:00

wow, that is thorough. i didnt see the clutch and flywheel mentioned but from the description it sounds like it would be included. thats pricey though, my brother def spent less on his but then again he has more room to work with and he went chevy to chevy not into a mazda. this'll be 1 hell of a beast, but from what ive heard you can forget cornering with an ls up front

Re: Important Update ! (White Comet)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-10-06T18:53:47-08:00

The kit comes with the cross member, and I will get a tranny out of a Trans am or Camaro with the bellhousing so that wont be an issue. The kit makes it to where literally its just a matter of squeezing it in there and bolting it in. Very thorough. Race concepts is who makes the kit.

Check it out:

http://www.racingconcepts.net/product.html

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

White Comet — 2008-10-06T17:55:23-08:00

true, but before you get into it, it'll be like 1200 for the trans maybe but theres also the cost of clutch and flywheel, appropriate bellhousing (if it doesnt come with it) starter, and some kind of crossmember for mounting.

in my brother's setup he paid like $750 for a zoom clutch and clutmasters flywheel and like $100ish on a custom made crossmember to bolt the t56 up to the camaro

Re: Important Update ! (White Comet)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-10-06T16:41:22-08:00

Well I mean. Its like 1200 or so for a t56 might as well just go for it and not waste time and money.

Tramp: yeah the spray stuff is fine.

Re: Important Update ! (tramp_drift240)

White Comet — 2008-10-06T08:46:00-08:00

yeah the t5 is weak. its not worth it unless you already have a t5 and plan on using it to drive gently until you get a t56

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

tramp_drift240 — 2008-10-06T00:29:29-08:00

wednesday?

what kind of rust stuff should i get. like. some of that spray can stuff? or what.

Re: Important Update ! (White Comet)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-10-05T17:09:40-08:00

oh you know it. The kit is pricey but comes with everything and takes away a lot of headaches is $3500 for the new K member, frame supports,manifolds,differential,drive shaft and Im not sure what else.

I was also going to go with the T5 tranny, but I keep reading it wont hold up to the torque of an ls1, and mine will be getting a cam. So t56 it is. I also didnt think Id be needing that extra gear, cuz in like a T/a you cruis at around 2k doing 80.

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

White Comet — 2008-10-05T17:05:00-08:00

score, monster miata

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-10-05T15:51:04-08:00

Change in plans. Like I said would happen.

The 240 will not be getting the Ls it will instead be going RB like originally planned. I AM however getting a miata and you can pretty much guess the rest.

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-09-27T20:36:47-08:00

As I have been discussing with tramp. I think I may just keep the LS for my fun/beat around 240 when I get it, and RB my current one. Dont know. Things could change depending on deals I guess..

Oh and Post 900!

Re: Important Update ! (DriftBoy07)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-09-27T17:25:00-08:00

Thanks dudes for all the support. I did not get the trans with it, but it will be t56 when I do get one. Itll need a good 2k still to get this in the car and driveable. But probably a bit more reliable than the Rb. So when I figure my stuff out I will definately let you all in on the info.

WC-thanks man Ill be waiting to hear back.

Re: Important Update ! (Force-fed)

DriftBoy07 — 2008-09-26T08:37:55-08:00

lol thanks for the education guys
im still goin SR20 though
captn you should still go LS1, the american muscle meets import is a cool combo and not a TON of people do it!
but either way, im watchin for updates

Re: Important Update ! (tramp_drift240)

Force-fed — 2008-09-25T22:58:20-08:00

because both gear ratios are lower than 1:1

Re: Important Update ! (White Comet)

Razi — 2008-09-25T22:51:55-08:00

Re: Important Update ! (tramp_drift240)

White Comet — 2008-09-25T22:49:34-08:00

the same way that 5th on a 5 speed is considered an overdrive gear

edit- beat by razi

Re: Important Update ! (tramp_drift240)

Razi — 2008-09-25T22:49:08-08:00

Overdrive gears are gears that allow you to cruise at low rpms and help improve your gas mileage.

So 5th/6th gear = overdrive

Re: Important Update ! (Razi)

tramp_drift240 — 2008-09-25T22:44:54-08:00

if its a manual 6 speed, how are they considered overdrive gears.

Re: Important Update ! (White Comet)

Razi — 2008-09-25T22:37:36-08:00

Re: Important Update ! (Razi)

White Comet — 2008-09-25T22:34:07-08:00

razi for t3h win

Re: Important Update ! (tramp_drift240)

Razi — 2008-09-25T22:27:26-08:00

T56 is a manual transmission.
I think WC was talking about it's 5th and 6th gears, which are considered as overdrive gears.

Re: Important Update ! (White Comet)

tramp_drift240 — 2008-09-25T22:19:17-08:00

Quote, originally posted by White Comet raquo;

and the ls can get impressive gas mileage especially with the t56 and its 2 overdrive gears

yeah, but automatic transmissions are weak.

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

White Comet — 2008-09-25T21:54:33-08:00

amazing price for all that, did you get a trans with it as well? as far as mounting the trans, my brother got a custom crossmember from a guy that makes them. i'll get you his info, but im not sure what all applications he makes the conversion crossmember for. check out the build thread for my bros camaro for some info on american muscle and whatnot you def are making the right choice going ls though, especially for that price.

driftboy- tramp already pointed it out, but the turbo determines spool time and any NA engine is better for drifting, auto x and cornering in general since there's no lag. and the ls can get impressive gas mileage especially with the t56 and its 2 overdrive gears

Re: Important Update ! (gregfarz78)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-09-25T20:58:10-08:00

Sick dude. Thanks for that. I may still go RB I dont know.. haha Im scatter brained. I may still go RB and accumulate parts for this. I keep forgetting that I need to have the car running and on the road by spring or so.

To be completely honest I have never been a fan of the LS swap, because I like nissans motors. Dont get me wrong this is an excelent motor, but for my daily car.. I dont know. I may do the RB and get another car (swap the RB into it when Im good and ready) and then drop the LS in my current car for a toy.

all that could change by tomorrow though, depending on how I feel.

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

gregfarz78 — 2008-09-25T18:57:02-08:00

Damn thats cheap I'm jealous I'd ditch the VQ in a second if I came across one that cheap so I don't blame you for ditching the RB. These guys sell a mount kit

http://www.daftinnovations.com/s13ls1/index.html

Hinson does too but its very expensive. I'd save up a few more pennies and get the T56 its a lot stronger than the T5.

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

DriftBoy07 — 2008-09-25T18:53:28-08:00

well me silly-i meant the turbo spoolin, and i wanted to try something new with a turbo since i have a pontiac V6 and my dad had the LS1 in his camaro
thas the car i learned how to drive stick on, and the first car i learned how to get sideways
have fun with it dude, im definately gonna be keepin an eye on your thread to see how ya do it because i think its a really good combo
good luck man

Re: Important Update ! (tramp_drift240)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-09-25T18:45:33-08:00

Quote, originally posted by DriftBoy07 raquo;

V8? good gas mileage?
hahahahahahahaha
lol jk man. i love the LS1 though for real, good choice-thas what my dad wants me to get but im stickin with the quick spoolin SR for drift

Yeah itll get over 25 miles to the gallon. Better than a bulid SR making the same power.

Quote, originally posted by gregfarz78 raquo;

Nice choice if you got it at a good price, LS engines are getting cheap I'm tempted to ditch the VQ idea and go LS who knows at this point though. I think there is a kit out there for LSx swaps but its not cheap might be better off making your own if you can weld. Also I could be wrong but I think you want the GTO oil pan. Did you get heads with that too?

Yes the LS1 gets pretty good gas mileage for a V8 you can get up to 30mpg highway probably 20mpg around town.

Oh I got the SEM satin black today, wow I'm impressed its a very very close match to OEM trim it was well worth the $10/can

Yeah, I got it for $100 bucks and Ive heard you want the gto oil pan, but when they swap into like S10s they need the corvette? I dont know whats the difference I know the corvette one is thinner.
And yes I dont want a kit I just need like mounts. It didnt come with heads I had heads a while back with intake for this motor, but I sold them I can get both of those for under $250 though. I also need coil packs and ecu headers and all the front stuff. All in all Ill be around the same price to do the rb swap but making over 100 horses more than the stock rb.
Oh almost forgot the transmission. I need to do some research as to what T5 will bolt up to it, so I can save a few pennies over the T56 tranny.

And Tramp- I probably did bite off more than I can chew. I like challenges and well this is one for sure. The hardest part is getting the thing in there. If its more than I feel like putting in it, Ill sell it.

I am also going to see a man about a horse.... Not really, but Im going to see if someone can reflash the ecu to bypass all the unnecessary sensors and stuff.

Re: Important Update ! (DriftBoy07)

tramp_drift240 — 2008-09-25T18:37:15-08:00

quick spooling has nothing to do with the motor, just the turbo.

and the ls1 would probably be better, since its got way more torque on tap.

but neat plan, man, whatre you gonna do for mounting the tranny and motor? dont bite off more than you can chew, or you wont be done with your puny ls1 swap til im already finished with my ridiculous ka-t.

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

gregfarz78 — 2008-09-25T18:35:52-08:00

Yes the LS1 gets pretty good gas mileage for a V8 you can get up to 30mpg highway probably 20mpg around town.

Oh I got the SEM satin black today, wow I'm impressed its a very very close match to OEM trim it was well worth the $10/can

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

DriftBoy07 — 2008-09-25T18:30:38-08:00

V8? good gas mileage?
hahahahahahahaha
lol jk man. i love the LS1 though for real, good choice-thas what my dad wants me to get but im stickin with the quick spoolin SR for drift

Re: Important Update ! (urcaptnspeaking)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-09-25T18:17:37-08:00

Bump!

Important Update !

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-09-25T17:29:58-08:00

I changed my mind today. I had planned this whole time to get an RB20 and make about 400 horse. I still want to go RB in my next project but since this car is going to see a few tracks and some abuse I figured I should do something with more ready available parts. So here are the pics to do the rest of the talking !

2001 Ls1 less than 30k on the clock.

Corvette oil pan.

Box of goodies: Valve covers, pistons, oil return, ect.

So thats the plan now. This is going to be an Ls1 car. And tackling it on a budget, impossible? Not if you got the motor for what I got it for

Plans now find out how to put this thing in, do they make a conversion kit for the Ls into an s13?

The motor is going to get a nice cam and thata probably it. 6-speed and a tune should net me close to 400. and still get good gas mileage (in the way of a v8)

any advice on the matter is welcome !

Re: Update (knx2)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-09-24T18:46:57-08:00

well good. Im glad you are learning something. Tells me this isnt a pointless showoff

Re: Update (urcaptnspeaking)

knx2 — 2008-09-24T17:51:02-08:00

My god... Dude you have some skills. I cannot wait for updates because I am learning soo much. Thank you!

Cleaned up.

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-09-24T12:28:30-08:00

Today I was in the mood to just do some cleaning up. The interior was nice in my car, but it had been getting all scuzy. Which lead me to bringing it back to life.

This how it started. As you can see the passenger side is already clean.

Another shot of the mess.

After removing the seat I scrubbed away.

And here it is after some reassembly.

I used to work at a car lot where I was the salesmen, and detailed. Im pretty good at it. I didnt bother cleaning real well as I know its just going to get dirty again here soon.

Re: (tramp_drift240)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-09-24T12:07:24-08:00

Quote, originally posted by White Comet raquo;

i used dupicolor bumper paint

How did it work? And how did it feel to the touch after you did it?

Quote, originally posted by gregfarz78 raquo;

tooltopia.com
SEM Paints (SEM15243) Color Coat - Satin Black
Part#: SEM15243
Manufacturer Part#: annv-pb
(Qty: 2 x $11.13)
Discounted Item. You Paid: $10.02

Twice the price of normal spray paint but everything I've read people rave about it so I'll see how good it actually is. I tried the krylon fusion in my spec v its a decent match but still has a little sheen to it so I'll see how this works and take a side by side comparison pic.

Sounds like promising stuff. Let me know man!

Quote, originally posted by tramp_drift240 raquo;

not sure yet, i dont get next weeks work schedule (saturda-friday) til thursday. ill let you know which day im off.

Ok just let me know as soon as you find out.

Re: (urcaptnspeaking)

tramp_drift240 — 2008-09-24T12:02:56-08:00

Quote, originally posted by urcaptnspeaking raquo;

sweet what day is best?

not sure yet, i dont get next weeks work schedule (saturda-friday) til thursday. ill let you know which day im off.

Re: (urcaptnspeaking)

gregfarz78 — 2008-09-24T12:00:48-08:00

Quote, originally posted by urcaptnspeaking raquo;

where did you get it from?

tooltopia.com
SEM Paints (SEM15243) Color Coat - Satin Black
Part#: SEM15243
Manufacturer Part#: annv-pb
(Qty: 2 x $11.13)
Discounted Item. You Paid: $10.02

Re: (urcaptnspeaking)

White Comet — 2008-09-24T11:49:58-08:00

i used dupicolor bumper paint

Re: (gregfarz78)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-09-24T07:53:40-08:00

where did you get it from?

Re: (urcaptnspeaking)

gregfarz78 — 2008-09-24T07:35:00-08:00

Quote, originally posted by urcaptnspeaking raquo;

Yeah I see that. I would like to get something more oem "black" which is more like a charcoal then black. Tell me how that trim paint stuff works out.

will do I have some SEM satin black on order

Re: (tramp_drift240)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-09-23T22:59:07-08:00

sweet what day is best?

Re: (urcaptnspeaking)

tramp_drift240 — 2008-09-23T20:59:38-08:00

TOTALLY, im 100% down if youre able to come by this weekend.

next time youre online ill IM you my phone to save. and you better save it.

Re: (White Comet)

urcaptnspeaking — 2008-09-23T08:55:16-08:00

Quote, originally posted by gregfarz78 raquo;

I tried out that krylon fusion its not that glossy in person but I wasnt a fan of it either doesn't really match the oem black trim perfectly and I'm anal about that lol gonna try out SEM trim paint. Funny you posted this I was working on my headliner tonight too

Yeah I see that. I would like to get something more oem "black" which is more like a charcoal then black. Tell me how that trim paint stuff works out.

Quote, originally posted by autox615 raquo;

sweet pete, hope you change your mind on selling it. I've regretted it every time I got rid of my 240(I have had four).

Its not going anywhere. No worries, I get in my moods (not frustrated with the car) but I quickly retreat the idea.

Quote, originally posted by tramp_drift240 raquo;

NIGGA I TOLD YOU IT WAS BRACELET STUFF.

good call on checking the craft store though.

im considering finding a way to remove the dome light in my coupe, since ive got the map lights in the front where my sunroof controls are. but then id have to recover it with the same fabric, and make it look nice.

i dont see the point in two separate interior lights on the ceiling.

nice work though, im still wanting help with the paint and stuff on the roof of my car.

Ha yeah. Good call on that. It didnt look like the right size, but turns out it was near perfect.
In your case I would do away with the dome light, maybe. I plan on getting a different looking kind maybe? or figure out a way to update it somehow.
I could help you recover your headliner if you buy the fabric. We can just tack in something over the hole before we cover it.

No worries Friday I will be down there, and Im staying in crosslanes till saturday night or sunday morning so like you can give me your number and I can swing by or we could just do it another time. Let me know.

Quote, originally posted by White Comet raquo;

nice work! its funny, i just dyed my headliner and visors as well. not as dark as yours, but im working on the same stuff

Haha 2 people now working on the same thing at the same time. Weird. What color did you go with ? Mine isnt all that dark in the pics, but in person it looks nice. Its a good shade.

Re: (tramp_drift240)

White Comet — 2008-09-23T04:41:58-08:00

nice work! its funny, i just dyed my headliner and visors as well. not as dark as yours, but im working on the same stuff