'08-'10 Armada/QX56 Watch DVD's on your Navigation Screen!

Timmbo — 2009-06-23T19:37:40-08:00

Mike,

Glad I could help you out with the e-mails, you should "cleverly" hide the switch just under the dash, to the right of the steering wheel, there is a space about a 1/2" wide which allow just enough room to snugly fit with 3M double sided tape on each side.

WIRING WRITE UP

hockeyguy21 — 2009-06-22T11:09:10-08:00

OK ladies and gents, if you are looking into doing this without a relay and all that jazz, the easy way to do this is to use a double pole double throw toggle switch. this requires no relay. the only thing is the switch is ugly, and it needs a nice place to hide (which i havent found yet, still searching. any ideas?)

now, when wiring the switch, you need to take the dash apart, cut the speedsensor and ebrake wires (look at the illustrations from earlier in this thread). after they are cut, you will need to attach the wires as shown in my illustration below.

any questions or advice, let me know im still working on this myself!

Mike

EcstaSPT — 2009-06-22T08:16:22-08:00

Great thread. We just bought an 08 Pathfinder LE with Nav, so does this mod allow you to search with the music box while driving? I haven't even messed with it yet but from what I read you can only search through the different ripped albums while stopped, how lame is that? Way to defeat the purpose of a HD based music box. Are the connectors etc the same for Pathfinders as the Armada?

Timmbo — 2009-06-21T19:32:58-08:00

Thanks for e-mailing me, keep me posted if you have any issues.

Re:

hockeyguy21 — 2009-06-21T12:08:24-08:00

i need to know how to wire up the relay. i swear ive paced over this page 100,000 times and it tells me what relay to get, but not how to wire it.

i currently have this relay
http://www.parts-express.com//...0-070

as well as a LED switch with 3 prongs, POWER, LOAD, and GROUND

please someone help me wire this. i need to have it up and running today

Re: (Timmbo)

63onair — 2009-06-19T07:24:43-08:00

I just purchased an 09 Armada SE with Bose and non-nav. Is the wiring the same for for 08 and 09? Do I still need to cut ground 106 107? Thanks in advance!!!!!

----------------UPDATE------------------------

I found the service manuals on the forum and it is the same for the '09 models. It worked like a champ. Probably the quickest, easiest, and most useful mod ever. Thanks guys, I'm sure this won't be the last time I pick your brains.

Modified by 63onair at 1:54 PM 6/19/2009

Re: (sixdog)

Timmbo — 2009-06-15T19:55:07-08:00

Quote, originally posted by sixdog raquo;

I cut the vss wire and connected each side to the switch. I also have a ground connected to the switch.

You need a SPDT switch, not a SPST. Make sense?

Re: (Timmbo)

sixdog — 2009-06-13T06:21:40-08:00

I cut the vss wire and connected each side to the switch. I also have a ground connected to the switch.

Re: (sixdog)

Timmbo — 2009-06-12T18:55:29-08:00

Quote, originally posted by sixdog raquo;

I did this mod to my buddies armada with just spst switch and it worked fine for a night, now when both wires are connected to the switch the light on the switch goes out and the mod stops working in the on position. Is there a fuse I can check to see if I blew? I take 1 of the speed sensor wires off and the light comes back on , i touch the wire to the pole and it goes off. I am lost here.

I have replaced all wires and tried a new switch, I am positive that i tapped the right wires. What is the matter????

Modified by sixdog at 5:19 PM 6/12/2009

Modified by sixdog at 5:20 PM 6/12/2009

What two wires are connected to the switch?

Re: (Timmbo)

sixdog — 2009-06-12T17:03:02-08:00

I have replaced all wires and tried a new switch, I am positive that i tapped the right wires. What is the matter????

Modified by sixdog at 5:19 PM 6/12/2009

Modified by sixdog at 5:20 PM 6/12/2009

Timmbo — 2009-06-09T19:21:19-08:00

True, but at least if you use a DPDT switch you can always switch your vehcile back to a completely stock position in case a dealer is ever running diognostics on your vehicle, this way it will always appear that your vehicle is completely stock when in the normal position. Make sense?

Re: '08 Armada/QX56 Watch DVD's on your Navigation Screen! (sixdog)

KPierson — 2009-06-09T18:48:28-08:00

You can leave the parking brake wire permanently grounded on the navi side, there is absolutely no reason to switch it back and forth.

The VSS wires does NOT have to be grounded, it can float and it will still allow video.

There is no need for a relay, that is just making extra work.

All you need is a SPST switch inline with the VSS signal and to permanently ground the navi side of the parking brake wire. When you throw the switch it will kill the navi positioning (since the navi positioning isn't actually GPS based, it's VSS and electronic compass based) but as soon as you turn off the switch (and restore the VSS signal) the navi will update it (because it constantly verifies current position with GPS data when the vehicle is moving).

Re: '08 Armada/QX56 Watch DVD's on your Navigation Screen! (Timmbo)

sixdog — 2009-06-02T06:47:46-08:00

So the switch is just to switch between grounded or ungrounded?

Re: '08 Armada/QX56 Watch DVD's on your Navigation Screen! (sixdog)

Timmbo — 2009-06-01T20:01:06-08:00

Quote, originally posted by sixdog raquo;

What are the downfalls of just grounding the ebrake and speed sensor on a 08 Armada with navigation. I am about to do this mod for my friend and i am curios why the switch is needed on the Nav models?

First off, welcome to the Armada / QX56 Forum, always a pleasure greeting new members of NICOclub!

If you DON'T use a switch your Navigation will barely work (it will work, but it will be extremely choppy, and not as accurate, it will have at the very least a 30 second delay).

All you have to do is get a $5 DPDT switch and you will be good to go, best $5 spent ever!

Re: '08 Armada/QX56 Watch DVD's on your Navigation Screen! (236697)

sixdog — 2009-06-01T10:30:43-08:00

Timmbo — 2009-03-22T18:40:24-08:00

I didn't personally use the LED rocker switch, I actually used a non-LED rocker on my Armada, don't have to worry about anything buring out, or any annoying lights in the dark.

Blue LED Switch keep burn out

airwolf09 — 2009-03-20T12:20:54-08:00

don't know what is going on but my Blue LED switch from Autozone keep burn out, anyone run into this weird problem. I have went thru may be 4 Blue LED rocket switch like the one Timbo used.

but I have no problem using the Red LED switch. It is the same switch and rating the same just different color.

anyone have any idea?

Re: (mtyler72)

Timmbo — 2009-03-19T17:39:02-08:00

Quote, originally posted by mtyler72 raquo;

I just got an 05 infiniti Qx56. I have both the rear DVD and front Nav. Can I watch DVDs on the Nav screen if the car is NOT in motion and if so how?

Welcome to the Armada/QX56 Forum! Glad to have you as member of NICOclub!

You can do a modification so that you can watch the DVD on the front Nav screen, it will work while the vehicle is in park and while it is motion. You need to purchase the switch unit from TVNav2 Go, you can purchase this from:

http://www.tvandnav2go.com/

You will then run a regular set of Audio/Video cables from underneath your passenger seat to the center console and connect it to the proper video wires located in one of the wire connecters. It takes a little time to complete, but is well worth it, it is a great modification!

Re: (Alegre323)

mtyler72 — 2009-03-19T15:05:09-08:00

I just got an 05 infiniti Qx56. I have both the rear DVD and front Nav. Can I watch DVDs on the Nav screen if the car is NOT in motion and if so how?

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (236697)

Timmbo — 2009-02-03T07:22:35-08:00

Quote, originally posted by 236697 raquo;

I did not have to use the relay any everything works fine. I dont understand why everyone is having so many problems with this. I aslo do not have navigation. i purchase my armada without navigation but have the bose theater system. You just have to cut the wires from the rear of the radio and ground the wires. I dont remember excatly but i think you ground the wires that are still attached to the back of the radio. that why you dont cut the wires to short.....

But i have done this and it works great.........

If you DO have Navigation, then you need to use Shane's relay pack or a DPDT switch in order for the Navigation to function properly.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (airwolf09)

236697 — 2009-02-02T18:07:57-08:00

But i have done this and it works great.........

Re: 370z with navi mod (Timmbo)

tintmasters — 2009-01-27T15:22:17-08:00

Get me a pinout and we will make this happen....

Re: 370z with navi mod (mellertson)

Timmbo — 2009-01-27T07:46:22-08:00

Quote, originally posted by mellertson raquo;

I just purchased the 2009 370z with the Navi. The video inputs work great with my iPod but of course the video stops when I don't have the ebrake on or I move the car... I'm wondering if anyone knows if this mod will work for the 370z...

I'm new to moding cars. Does anyone know where I can get the wiring diagram for my car?

Peace...

Welcome to NICOclub! Thanks for visiting the Armada/QX56 Forum! Congrats on the new 370z, that is a sweet purchase! YES, the mod can be performed on your car. The only issue at this point is that the vehicle is so new that we do not have a Factory Service Manual available at this time. However, we do have the G37 Coupe, which I would be willing to bet has the same wiring harness as your 370z. Here is a link to the G37 manual:

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/g37/

So they only issue then would be pulling apart your dash to get to the back of the stereo to tap into the E-Brake wire and the VSS wire.

370z with navi mod

mellertson — 2009-01-26T19:59:53-08:00

I'm new to moding cars. Does anyone know where I can get the wiring diagram for my car?

Peace...

Re: (mike9954)

Timmbo — 2009-01-21T07:03:08-08:00

Quote, originally posted by mike9954 raquo;

does ne1 know were i go to 2 order the bypass for my ex35?

Welcome to NICOclub! Click on the link below:

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...rride

If you go the relay route (which I recommend) you can purchase the relay pack from Shane @ Tintmasters.

Re: (Timmbo)

mike9954 — 2009-01-20T20:42:51-08:00

does ne1 know were i go to 2 order the bypass for my ex35?

Re: (donkjote)

Timmbo — 2009-01-19T19:18:31-08:00

Quote, originally posted by donkjote raquo;

it has the factory dvd but you could only watch it on the front screen when the vehicle was stationary.

Ahhh, I guess I never realized that you could get the factory DVD without getting the Navigation. Cool!

Re: (Timmbo)

donkjote — 2009-01-19T12:09:20-08:00

it has the factory dvd but you could only watch it on the front screen when the vehicle was stationary.

Re: (donkjote)

Timmbo — 2009-01-19T12:04:16-08:00

Quote, originally posted by donkjote raquo;

i took a chance and did just that before getting this response. it worked. i already put it back together. thanks.

Glad it all worked for you. So do you have an aftermarket DVD player you are hooking to that?

Re: (Timmbo)

donkjote — 2009-01-19T11:46:58-08:00

i took a chance and did just that before getting this response. it worked. i already put it back together. thanks.

Timmbo — 2009-01-19T11:29:42-08:00

On the diagram you can see where the tab is. Orient your harness so the tab is at the top (with the wires coming out at you) like it is in the diagram, then you will know which two wires they are.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)

donkjote — 2009-01-19T10:49:43-08:00

any chance you can call me? email me and i will provide my phone number. email is donkhenry@hotmail.com.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)

donkjote — 2009-01-19T10:47:07-08:00

The plugs look like mine on this picture. the only difference is that my 32 pin plug seems to have the release tab on the bottom of the harness. to release the harness from the radio, the tab is on the bottom of the plug so does that mean that pins 106 and 107 are on the top row of the harness? it looks in your picture of the plug that the release button of the plug is on top.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (donkjote)

Timmbo — 2009-01-19T10:43:54-08:00

Quote, originally posted by donkjote raquo;

i have identified the 32 pin connector but the back of my radio has three plugs on the top row (including the gray plug) and four plugs on the bottom row. the diagram on page 203 shows 3 plugs on the top, three plugs on the bottowm. i just don't want to cut and ground two wires that may not be correct. are the diagrams on the fsm supposed to match the back of the radio?

It is the 32 pin connector, just make sure you orient your diagram correctly so you cut the correct two wires. Make sure you leave enough wire to splice a connector back to add wire or connect the wires again someday or if you decided to add in the relays.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)

donkjote — 2009-01-19T09:48:37-08:00

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (donkjote)

Timmbo — 2009-01-19T09:12:08-08:00

Not sure what you are looking at, but it looks like the Base Audio has the same connectors as the Bose Audio WITHOUT Nav. The Bose Audio WITH Nav has different connectors.

Go to page 203 of the service manual. That wiring/terminal diagram looks just like what you took a picture of. The terminal block that you will work on is the block that has 32 wires (two rows of 16). You will be working with pin (wire) 106 and 107 according to the FSM. If you scroll down a few pages from there, you will see that 106 is being identified as the Parking Brake Signal, and 107 as the VSS.

That should help, let me know how things work out!

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (donkjote)

Timmbo — 2009-01-19T08:48:06-08:00

Not sure if this helps at all, keep in mind many of the Nissan / Infiniti vehicles have the same harnesses and components. Here is an EX35 WITHOUT Navigation. Let me know if anything here looks familiar.

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zer...2.pdf

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)

donkjote — 2009-01-18T19:14:32-08:00

the layout diagram in the fsm does not look anything like the plugs in the back of my unit (either the nav or without nav). i have the bose system without navigation and the layout diagram is the same as the basic non bose diagram. could the fsm be incorrect? i am new at this but i may be assuming the following incorrectly. is the layout diagram supposed to show the plugs the way they are on the back of my radio? if so, these diagrams don't match my radio.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (donkjote)

Timmbo — 2009-01-18T18:41:59-08:00

Quote, originally posted by donkjote raquo;

I have a 2008 armada without navigation and I was trying to do this mod. the problem is that my plugs in the back of the radio don't look like the diagram you have here or the one with the navigatoin. do you know if there is another radio that was used in the 08 armada that has a different plug layout? if so, can you help me with which are the correct pins i need to ground? a picture of the back of my radio is attached. the gray plug is on the top left side if you are looking at the radio from the back. model of the radio is visteon 25915 zq20b. [IMG][/IMG]

Welcome to NICOclub! Glad to have you here in the Armada/QX56 Forum!

Yes, there are two different head units and two different sets of plugs. There it the unit with Nav, and the unit without Nav. The Factory Service Manual for the Armada will show you which wires are the VSS and the E-Brake. Here is a link to the FSM on NICOclub:

http://www.nicoclub.com/FSM/armada/

Let me know if you have any more questions!

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (donkjote)

donkjote — 2009-01-18T17:37:09-08:00

I am not able to upload the images so i have posted them on google picasa at http://picasaweb.google.com/do...Plugs# .

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (236697)

donkjote — 2009-01-18T17:12:57-08:00

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)

tintmasters — 2009-01-17T09:34:03-08:00

Thanks for the props Timm.

the relay pack I make will have more detailed instructions than those I have already posted. If you are a 12volt savvy person, the instructions I have given will make it a snap. If you are a novice, the instructions I will supply you with will make it simple.

Any one interested in the mod, the pricing is as follows.

$50 LED round rocker switch Blue or Red LED (13/16" hole)

$45 Standard mini toggle switch.

Pricing includes Priority Mail

If you choose to purchase the mod, please paypal me at tntmstr@aol.com

In the info bar please include what type and/or color of switch and what type of Nissan you have, with or without NAV.

***** This modification is to be used as a novelty item and/or for address entry into the navigation by a passenger, while the vehicle is in motion. I do not condone operation of a vehicle while being distracted by full motion video. By sending funds for this modification you are taking full responsibility for YOUR actions. This relay pack can be used for many other functions. What you choose to do with it is your option. This modification is guaranteed to work. But I cannot guarantee your ability to install it correctly. I will take no responsibility for any incorrect installation. If you choose the round rocker switch you will be required to brill a 13/16" hole in a dash panel. If you do not have access to the correct size step bit for this I will not take your modification back. You will need to re-order a new modification with the small toggle switch. Please make sure you can acquire the correct tools you will need for the job. Please check your local and state laws and understand your consequences.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (airwolf09)

Timmbo — 2009-01-11T12:10:25-08:00

Quote, originally posted by airwolf09 raquo;

can you please post how you get the wiring connected to the relay and the switch? and where can i get the relay?

Welcome to NICOclub! Glad to have you here in the Armada/QX56 Forum!

When I did this mod, I purchased the relays pre-wired with the switch from a gentleman named Shane. He owns a company called Tintmasters in the Dakotas. He will be posting a message soon here, but if you would like to order the relays with the switch (including detailed instructions), please e-mail him at: tntmstr@aol.com He charges about $50 (includes shipping) and trust me, this makes it an extremely easy mod to perform!

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (bkelly)

airwolf09 — 2009-01-11T10:51:18-08:00

Quote, originally posted by bkelly raquo;

Once I installed the 5 prong relays and grounded the brake wire at the back of the head unit everything works great. This is the best mod you can make to the 2008 QX56.

can you please post how you get the wiring connected to the relay and the switch? and where can i get the relay?

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (236697)

airwolf09 — 2009-01-11T05:33:28-08:00

Quote, originally posted by 236697 raquo;

The above illustration is correct if you have the Navigation, but the system that does not include navigation is a little different. The procedure for Non-Nav 08 Nissian armada is to remove move the radio as shown above. The differance is in the radio itself and the pins. For the Non-Nav its pins 106 107.

106 - Ground Parking brake signal
107 - Ground Vehicle speed signal

You do not need the relay's unless you want the option to switch back and forth from factory to modified. Just cut the two wires (be sure to leave enough wire from both the rear of the radio and the harness. MAKE SURE NO TO CUT THE WIRE TO SHORT OR YOU WILL BE SCREWED. Take the wires from the rear of the radio and ground them and you have the option of displaying movies on the front screen.

If you dont want to display the movie in the front screen while driving just press the status button on the radio and it will display the default Nissan screen. To revert back to the movie press the DVD/AUX bottom under the FM/AM button and it will display the movie.

Hope this helps everyone.....And the best thing about it is you dont have to spend money an any after market parts.

do you have the picture of how the wiring connect to the relay, switch and pin?
is this a 3 pins relay or 4 pins relay. greatly appreciated if you have the wiring diagram of how all the wires go to the switch and relay.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (hockeyguy21)

Timmbo — 2009-01-01T07:50:35-08:00

Quote, originally posted by hockeyguy21 raquo;

maybe i should install the switch then.
howd ou wire that switch up?

I don't know that the switch would make it go any quicker. The other problem is that you would also have to place a switch in the e-brake wire, and just doing the switch will cause the "BRAKE" light to stay illuminated on your dash when you are watching video on the front screen.....that is unless you simply ground that wire instead of placing it on a switch, but then when you actually have your e-brake on, the "BRAKE" light will NOT be on. Just some things to think about.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)

hockeyguy21 — 2008-12-31T21:49:44-08:00

Quote, originally posted by Timmbo raquo;

The lag is almost a non-factor. I just completed the mod 4 days ago and usally within 15-30 seconds the Nav catches up when you flip the switch back.

maybe i should install the switch then.
howd ou wire that switch up?

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (hockeyguy21)

Timmbo — 2008-12-31T20:07:14-08:00

Quote, originally posted by hockeyguy21 raquo;

hows the lag on the GPS? it seems without the relays my dads GPS system lags a whole lot.

The lag is almost a non-factor. I just completed the mod 4 days ago and usally within 15-30 seconds the Nav catches up when you flip the switch back.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (bkelly)

hockeyguy21 — 2008-12-31T16:02:07-08:00

Quote, originally posted by bkelly raquo;

Once I installed the 5 prong relays and grounded the brake wire at the back of the head unit everything works great. This is the best mod you can make to the 2008 QX56.

hows the lag on the GPS? it seems without the relays my dads GPS system lags a whole lot.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)

hockeyguy21 — 2008-12-31T15:57:56-08:00

Quote, originally posted by Timmbo raquo;

I am going to finally be performing this mod on my '08 Armada. The only questions I have are regarding the relay.

What exactly does the relay do?
How do I know which wires to connect where on the relay?
What relay is the best to use for this mod?
Where do you suggest getting the relay from? (does Radio Shack have this?)

Thanks so much for your feedback, I really appreciate it, I will be able to better assist others with this mod on the forum as well.

Happy Holidays!

the relay and switch, as i assume (since i didnt use it) was just to power the rocker switch, which allowed the speed sensor to either be turned on, or turned off, allowing the screen to play movies. so the switch is so you can go from "modified" to "unmodified"

Blown284 — 2008-12-31T13:50:43-08:00

A comprehensive write-up would be greatly appreciated. Seems there is info scattered...........

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)

GrillAg98 — 2008-12-31T13:40:36-08:00

Take pics and write details. I need to do this and knowing me, I'll probably eff it up.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (bkelly)

Timmbo — 2008-12-20T12:56:22-08:00

I am going to finally be performing this mod on my '08 Armada. The only questions I have are regarding the relay.

Thanks so much for your feedback, I really appreciate it, I will be able to better assist others with this mod on the forum as well.

Happy Holidays!

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (236697)

bkelly — 2008-12-16T07:20:21-08:00

Once I installed the 5 prong relays and grounded the brake wire at the back of the head unit everything works great. This is the best mod you can make to the 2008 QX56.

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (bkelly)

236697 — 2008-12-15T17:16:33-08:00

Have you grounded the wire correctly behind the radio....

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass

hockeyguy21 — 2008-11-27T10:34:26-08:00

I have completed this mod, and im sorry i didnt take any pictures
after unplugging the battery, my dads navigation does not move on the screen. i assume this is something that happened since i unplugged the battery, but i am not positive. we will be taking it in tomorrow to check

but i was just cruising down the road at 45 mph watching kung fu panda

this mod gets

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (bkelly)

hockeyguy21 — 2008-11-15T16:31:15-08:00

anyone got this up and running? how has it turned out? im trying to figure out how to get this done on my dads infiniti qx56 and i am having trouble getting the first piece off since there is a clock there instead of that little "nook" or "hole"
any words of advice from the people who have this done is greatly appreciated

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (Timmbo)

bkelly — 2008-11-02T19:45:47-08:00

I finally had a chance to follow your intructions on a 2008 QX56.Opening up pin #80 and#82 seemed to be correct however the e-brake is still overriding. If I ground the wire at the e-brake pedal I can get the dvd to stay on but the e-brake light and bell stay on while moving.I am close but need another idea.Any thoughts??

Re: 08 Aramda Non-Nav TV ByPass (BmoreQX56)

Blown284 — 2008-10-21T13:09:53-08:00

Quote, originally posted by BmoreQX56 raquo;

Could you elaborate more on your comment regarding the cutting of the wires? Where do you cut them? How much length do you need to leave? How do you suggest to ground them?

Since you're close to me, have you figured this out? I'd love for my wife to be able to watch DVd's up front so leave be quiet and leave me the hell alone while I'm driving

Timmbo — 2008-10-03T14:29:47-08:00

Welcome to NICOclub, thanks for visiting the Armada/QX56 Forum! Unfortunately there isn't much I can elaborate on, I have yet to personally perform this mod. Maybe in the coming months when I am not using my days off to go golfing! I would imagine any good clean metal framework should work great for the ground.