What to do??

[got_boost702]

I realize how dumb that comment was to "put a VG30DE head on it" i realized after submitting the message what i had said but it was to late it was already out there. But i wanna know what would it cost(rough estimate) for the complete swap, and if it is actually worth it. Here is what i want from my 240sx, i wanna get it from stock to running 12s without NOS and preferebly without an engine swap, so please help me and let me know the best way of going about doing this. I apologize for my ignorance on the VG30DE heads onto a KA24DE.:help :help :help

[Jeff240sx]

t3/4 turbo, intercooler, 15psi of boost, 50# injectors, high-flow pump, and a fuel controller. On stock internals, that should put you at the 350rwhp mark, and enough to run 12s. Should also cost about $3k for a pieced together turbo kit, $1100 for injectors, rail, pump, and JWT ecu.-Jeff

[got_boost702]

thanks for the help Jeff i was looking towards using Venom fuel injectors..i think their good fuel injectors. I was also thinking of putting an MSD ignition system, grounding wire set, nology hot wires, DC 4 to ! headers, and wanted to make two exhaust pipes running back instead of the single setup(i think that should be better than stayin with the stock setup). I just have so many ideas in my head its hard to decide. But thanks for the help and any other comments/suggestions please dont hesitate.

[Jeff240sx]

You will never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever hit 12 second quarter miles without a turbo of some sort, or at least nitrous. Turbo means no 4-1 header, because turbos use manifolds. Venom fuel injectors blow, because they are $280 or so for 10% more flow than stock (297cc injectors), whereas for $300 you can get 50# injectors (525cc) to run the turbo to get to the 12 second mark you're looking for.Have fun wiring up the MSD ignition.. it's a PITA. Nology wires suck. They lost 2.2hp when compared to the same car with Magnecor wires. Save the $50 and get magnecors. Grounding wires are overrated for their price. Get some big o-ring terminals, and some 8-gauge or larger amp wire, and do it for $20.Finally.. 2 pipes is a bad idea if you're looking for the dual outlet configuratio that V-block motors run. You will sacrifice so much flow and torque to that, it won't be funny.Just... do research man. This is rediculous that you want 12 seconds and don't wanna pay to play, or are trying to do the impossible-so-far NA 12 second car with a header and wires.-Jeff

[D3rELiC]

i think he never said he didnt want to turbocharge ?

[Dattebayo]

you know jeff never ever ever ever say never. There are some things being said back in ALL MOTOR forum that you dont know about. 12 sec IS attainable through n/a and im already at or beyond sr's QMT with my 93 dohc n/a. There is some history on nasport's ka that pushes 280hp. I would say maybe 10sec. would be impossible (or at least not worth the $$) but not 12.

[Jeff240sx]

you know jeff never ever ever ever say never. There are some things being said back in ALL MOTOR forum that you dont know about. 12 sec IS attainable through n/a and im already at or beyond sr's QMT with my 93 dohc n/a. There is some history on nasport's ka that pushes 280hp. I would say maybe 10sec. would be impossible (or at least not worth the $$) but not 12.

I really don't know. You'd need about 240rwhp to run under a 13 second quarter mile, in a stripped down 2650 pound (with driver) car according to online hp calculators. 240rwhp has been attained with the SOHC motors running carbs, ect. Not a DOHC (yet).

Now to answer both of the previous questions, this is the guy that wanted to "slap some vg30de heads onto the KA24DE, replacing the heads [sic], and then add a huge turbo. Or, just 'drop in' an RB26DETT." I really don't think that this guy is of the caliber to build a 12 second NA car. Hence, the first word in my post, "You." Finally... 2BN_S13, what exactly do you run? What mods? Email me if you don't mind.-Jeff

[got_boost702]

First, im still learning. I never thought the whole 2 pipes were gonna work from what i've read anyway. i just thought it would be sweet lookin, so that goes out the window. from what ive read nology wires claim to be dyno proven thats why i chose them over the magnacores but the magnacores do seem to be better. Viper is just the only injectors i have really come across. Im not against a turbo, I WANT A TURBO(hints the name "got_boost"). i just forgot that the turbo takes place of the headers. The only thing im against is NOS. It is a quick and cheep source of boost. But it he\urts the engine no matter how good you are. i will gain more knowledge as far as supping up engines go but it just takes asking questions(such as this thread) to learn so thanks for the help and anymore advice is greatly appreciated.

[TrunkMonkey]

i will gain more knowledge as far as supping up engines go but it just takes asking questions(such as this thread) to learn so thanks for the help and anymore advice is greatly appreciated.

have you tried using the search function? alot of your questions can be answered if you spend some time looking through past threads. it's good to ask questions, but it's even better to do a little leg work of your own.

-demetrius

[lessthanjakejohn]

What to do?

The first thing to do is go to the Bookstore and library.

Get anything that looks good.

Then plan how much money, that decides everything.If you have little money and want boost belt driven/geardriven supercharger.

[TrunkMonkey]

The first thing to do is go to the Bookstore and library.

Get anything that looks good.

the best looking thing out there is Maximum Boost by Corky Bell. a must read for anyone who wants to turbocharge their car.

-demetrius

[95_240sx]

Yup yup, I bought that well before I even bought the donor engine for my buildup.

Rick

[trpower7]

Yeah, you definetly need to spend a few months reading books and the forums and staring at an engine. Almost everything you have said has been extremely uneducated and worthless. Turbo doesn't "take the place of headers" a turbo just needs a turbo manifold, you need to understand the basic workings of a turbo. Nitrous oxide is not a source of "boost" as in forced induction, only boost in the loosest sense of the term. And no, it doesn't hurt the engine if it is used correctly. With proper fuel management you could run Nitrous Oxide all day long without problems. If your first priority is things that are "sweet lookin" then you might as well leave, because no one here wants to hear you talk about the body kits and rims you will eventually start talking about. IF you really want to learn, please use the search function. It's the big red button at the top of the page. To help you out, here's a few topics to search

1) KA24DET2) Fuel Management3) Injectors4) Engine Management5) Ignition Systems6) VG30DE swap (it takes tons of money and time, just to let you know)

Read every thread in the SR20DET, CA18DET, and KA24DET forums. Then ask. It's what I did.