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The thing is the first one you CANT incorporate the orignial switches into and make it look right, because the right side is too short.


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Definitely option 2. Oh and by the way...

YOU ARE PURE PSYCHO MR. STINSON!

But that's cool, because you use your powers for good.

Or for evil, depending on how ya look at it.

Anyway, great job on the project.

Danisiti 1

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Option #2...and leave room for your boost gauge

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elwesso wrote:I think the second option would look more factory, and also I could easily install gauges up at the top of the shifter later (another reason to go that route).. Coolant temp gauge and oil pressure would be cool.
Ooh, I really like that idea. I'd love to have accurate and cleanly installed oil pressure and coolant temp gauges.

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sweet! cool work Wes! your Q sounds pretty wicked

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http://www.q45.org/uploads2/Skullville/

You should get a skull shifter! It looked great in the Seville. Your Q is pure evil goodness now.

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Little more progress made today.. Made the shifter surround, still have to cut the holes for the window switches and clean up around the shifter. I cant really do too much because i dont have my dremel with me, ill get to that this weekend...

All I used was a piece of cedar paneling i had left over from when new paneling went up in my closet... Im going to put some veneer or something along those lines to match the factory color scheme... then varnish it so it looks factory..

still, turned out really good. Fits really good, and when its done ill post more in-depth pics but for now...


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I would cover it in padded simulated black leather and call it done.

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Jesda wrote:I would cover it in padded simulated black leather and call it done.
I think I would do black vinyl/seudo leather as well. Padded or not, if not, you'll just need to sand/finish the wood really well so it doesn't show any imperfections. If you leave it wood and it doesn't match it will stand out like a sore thumb.

The OEM switches may be difficult to mount in that board. Do you have a plan for that?

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well i was going to cover that panel in some fake wood trim stuff so it looks factory-ish

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I wonder if Jason Burtman can manufacture something?

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Sorry to bump such an old thread but are these pictures still available?

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you still selling the q45 to z32 adapter (steel) plates? how much can u call me 281-734-4389

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Any 5 speed Q's in japan? Might get some good $ if ya sell them one

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what year tranny did u use im doing the swap myself and just need to know a bit more thanks

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Would the Traction Control System still work if a five speed was swapped in?

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I don't see why TCS wouldn't work, might require some extra trickery to make it work properly but not too difficult...

TCS is for wimps anyway.. :)

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Hey what about an E-Brake? Can anything be mounted in the center console?

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Does the Check Engine Light (CEL) come on because of the communication issue between the A/T Control Unit and ECM? I believe if the A/T Control Unit on a 1996 Q45 was removed the check engine light would come on and never shut off.

Did you fix the shifter so it doesn't point to the passenger side?

Would using the clutch switch as the neutral safety switch get the Auto Driver Positioner working? Basically when the clutch is depressed the seat and steering wheel won't move.

Are there any modifications you can do to the ECU tunes (NICO ECU) to adjust for a standard transmission?

Could people with 1990-1993 Q45 with the "Play school" plastic center console window control trim, Cut the trim in such a way as to clear the shifter? Or would we be required to make a whole new one out of wood?

Did you ever get rid of that vibration "Issue"?

Can page two of the topic be fixed?

Do you have the pictures missing from this topic Wes?

A T-Handle Ebrake would be a nice fit where the original E brake release is. Because a SC400 Ebrake in a Q is just wrong and it looks out of place in a SC400 as well.

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Infinitiguy19 wrote:Can page two of the topic be fixed?
Done.

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Infinitiguy19 wrote:Does the Check Engine Light (CEL) come on because of the communication issue between the A/T Control Unit and ECM? I believe if the A/T Control Unit on a 1996 Q45 was removed the check engine light would come on and never shut off.

Did you fix the shifter so it doesn't point to the passenger side?

Would using the clutch switch as the neutral safety switch get the Auto Driver Positioner working? Basically when the clutch is depressed the seat and steering wheel won't move.

Are there any modifications you can do to the ECU tunes (NICO ECU) to adjust for a standard transmission?

Could people with 1990-1993 Q45 with the "Play school" plastic center console window control trim, Cut the trim in such a way as to clear the shifter? Or would we be required to make a whole new one out of wood?

Did you ever get rid of that vibration "Issue"?

Can page two of the topic be fixed?

Do you have the pictures missing from this topic Wes?

A T-Handle Ebrake would be a nice fit where the original E brake release is. Because a SC400 Ebrake in a Q is just wrong and it looks out of place in a SC400 as well.
On the 90-95 there's no CEL from the TCU being disconnected.. Not sure about the 96, although I think there wouldn't be that many issues to overcome, just some trickery to make everything think it's working properly. I think one of the bigger challenges would be making the TCS system work if you had it on your car.

My current shifter sits in the stock shifter bezel and it's basically in the center of the "hole" when it's in neutral.

There's no need to change anything in the ECU for the transmission, except perhaps to disasble the communications line to the TCU. It does throw a code for the TCU not being there, but no CEL.

The vibration is still kind of there but it's not bad. It is mainly at 40MPH because the driveshaft isn't quite aligned properly. Most of the time it's not that noticeable, and at a highway cruise its very smooth, so I don't worry about it. The trans sits a little low and you really need to cut the tunnel to get it to fit right, but IMO it's not bad enough to worry about it.

I have most of the pictures uploaded but I'll need to describe what's going on in them, maybe I'll update this thread soon.

I really don't think you'd be able to get a T-handle E brake down in there. There's a lot of other stuff under the dash around the steering column that would make it really hard to get in there. I think some sort of electric actuator under the car would be the easiest. I know many newer GM cars and other makes have electronic E-brakes and that would be the easiest solution, IMO.

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Wes,

What does the engine rev at 55 MPH in fifth gear?

Any chance you could email me the receipts or a parts list so I know what to buy?

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The engine revs in 5th gear are basically the same as 4th gear in a stock Q.

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What happened to your build photos?

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installing-a-5-speed-into-my-q45-t480074-30.html

This 5 spd swap still has pics up, and a ton of them.

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Brew Q wrote:installing-a-5-speed-into-my-q45-t480074-30.html

This 5 spd swap still has pics up, and a ton of them.
I've still got all the pics, but I'll have to re-link them sometime.. :)

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Wes, let me know if we should convert it to an article.

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What did the transmission come out of. I keep trying to find a car that I can use the manual trans from for my Q45 but I have had no luck yet. And advice would be wonderful!


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