Which would you choose?

[TurboSauce]

Please no fanbois. Please.

Okay, I'm in a situation where I can potentially get one of two vehicles and get rid of my soul-less tourque-less front wheel drive wonder.

A r33 skyline [rhd] or a Jeep Wrangler 4 cyl.

And although both vehicles provide extreme contrast to each other, it doesn't make it any easier to choose between the two.

Pro's for the skyline
-Car That I have loved and wanted for a long time
-It's a nissan
-will use less fuel. [depending on boost]
-Parts will be easier to come by, alot easier.

Pro's for the Jeep wrangler
-Ride height [ we have horrible pot holed lined roads that are uneven]
-ability to drive over any terrain
-ability to drive through flooding
-looks cool [ I love the styling]
-literally go anywhere


Cons for the skyline
-Low car,
-not much space for carrying anything [not really a drawback by much]
-target for thieves
-when it floods I can become stuck
-parts breaking
-molested by 'wanna be racers'
-probably jerry rigged in some way shape or form
-stuck to mainly paved roads

Cons for the Jeep
-comes from an insurance auction
-would have to be imported
-left hand drive [we drive on the left side of the road here]
-bigger fuel consumption
-parts for jeeps are expensive
-parts are NOT readily available in nassau
-general maintenance will be more $$$

I currently daily a Honda Torneo. - I just honestly do not like this car.
-doesn't really have a soul. so it's out of the question.

So basically back to the main point of this thread. Using sense, which would you choose?

And before the question is asked, Yes I do have a colorado, but it's not driven as... I can't get put on the insurance until 23.
I'll just leave that there.
Any Help?

UPDATE

[asoomal]

Body on frame > Unibody.

That's how I see it.

[Kompresshun]

As long as the Jeep is a manual, I would go for the Jeep. Parts can't be THAT hard to find for them, as there are so many vendors around the world that make parts for them. It's a simple vehicle, that's very simple to maintain. Considering that you already have a truck though, I can see why you would consider the S14.

[TurboSauce]

It's an auto jeep. It's not that parts are impossible to find, it's that when you find them people want to charge an arm and or a leg for them. My cousin had a wrangler, and if he took better care of it it'd probably still be around. but he got rid of it.
And With the s14, I can possibly trade it and get some cash with it.

[TurboSauce]

UPDATED POST
dude's selling his skyline r33. instead of his silvia. this changes things.

[Kompresshun]

Well definitely don't go for the 4cyl auto Jeep. You'll hate it. I promise.

If you can get the R33, then I would definitely be going for that.

[alms24sebring]

Not to be a fanboi but is the choice of the R33 not that obvious of a decision? Especially against an auto 4cyl Jeep. Its a slow gas guzzling pig. Then again it depends on what you want, what you can afford, where you live, etc. But atleast look for a 6 cyl but even then its a 10mpg hog with fun Chrysler type problems. Take a good look at both, make a decision.

[elitefew22197]

I call it as I see it...all the people that I've known to have a nissan have had minimal problems, if any. On the other hand, every person I know that's owned a jeep has had issues within the first month. Now, considering parts parts for the jeep are considerably more pricey than the nissan parts I would suggest the nissan over the jeep. Just my two pennies....oh and the fun factor...its a fother muckin skyline!

[Jesda]

The only worthwhile Jeep has a 4.0.

[300ZXttZMAN]

Skyline FTW!

[NolimitZ32]

Depends on what you need but yeah as mentioned a 4cyl auto Jeep is the bottom of the barrel and leaves lots to be desired.

[TurboSauce]

Okay update,
Went to look at the skyline, was shocked and in awe of the condition. Unfortunately I didn't take any pics, but then again I'm glad I didn't take any pics of how horrible this skyline was.
The front driver side of the vehicle had been in an accident and never repaired properly,
The frame and chassis were pulled out But still bent out of it's original shape and crumpled [weakened].
To repair it you would need to weld new metal everywhere, or get an entire front clip and replace it.
But that's just the front.
The rear quarter panel of the passenger side was knee deep in bondo and it had also been hit.
the engine was an rb25det with the turbo removed, and the transmission [originally auto] had been changed to manual.
There were signs of rust over the entire vehicle, and although it was once a skyline, I don't even think the condition it is currently in fits the name of a skyline.

So I passed on the trade as to get it where I'd want it to be would require much more $$$$ than I am willing to spend.

So I went to look at the Jeep, Yes, it's a four banger, but surprise surprise it's stick. I haven't gotten to go through the entire vehicle as of yet but I will tomorrow and will snap some pics for you guys.

[nissangirl74]

Glad you didn't end up buying someone else's problem. Question: is the Jeep your only other option? No one has spoken highly of it and I'll throw my hat into that group as well. I always thought I wanted a Jeep, until I drove one. Unless there is something terrible wrong with the Torneo, why not just save up your money til you can afford something really bada55?

[Bubba1]

The jeep might wade thru deeper puddles, and is more capable if you take it off road, but odds are it'll be less reliable than a Nissan, plus it's got a bouncy ride (that will get tiresome pretty quickly), doesn't handle particularly well and sucks more gas.

But if the roads where you live are that horrendous, as you've hinted, then what good is a sports car in that environment? Personally I'd look at other choices as neither makes an ideal DD.

[TurboSauce]

Good? Sports car? in these roads? HA.
Sorry doesn't exist.
The bahamas has limestone rocks at its base.
Which basically means that soil could be placed over the limestone, paved,
and in about a year it looks like a 4 year old road. And to compound the problem
our Water and sewerage as well as Telephone Company constantly dig up our roads AFTER they have been freshly paved and never properly repave them. So this creates uneven wear on the roads as well.

The most prominent sports cars here are skylines because of their size, and parts availability.
Rx7's break easily
Supra's are very expensive
Evo's get transmission problems
mustangs eat gas,
not much camaros
or many other 'merican sports cars
toyota Soarers are like magnets for bad drivers
as well as silvias and MR2's
Most cars that have been here already have been beaten on and jerry rigged.
Our best sports car would probably be..
a civic.


Bex, these aren't my only options, they're just the ones i figured I could live with and actually be happy driving.
Honestly I scrape my stock hight torneo over bumps and holes in these roads.

And we also have PROBLEM with flooding, [doesn't help the pot hole situation.
but most roads flood to about bumper height.
So lowered silva = stays in garage during rain.

Truthfully, I want something reliable, able to tread about 3-4 feet of water, decent on gas,
and isn't a people carrier. Because Thats about all I do in my torneo.
Carry people from A-B.

What REALLY pisses me off is that I have a Colorado,
I have a Truck,
And I can't get insured on it until i'm 23

[TurboSauce]

Unless there is something terrible wrong with the Torneo, why not just save up your money til you can afford something really bada55?

This would seemingly work but, I just have this really weird feeling that this car is going to crap out on me and I can't even pinpoint it, but the more I drive it, the more that "oh s*** something gonna give" feeling comes over me, plus the whole factor that my specific car is Very high on the desirable list by thieves.
My mom's co-worker had one for a year until it got stolen
my friend had one, got stolen
The technician who installed my alarm knew 5 that got stolen from his friends
alot of them are broken into,
Which just makes me NOT want to put any money into it,
and just get rid of it.

[Bubba1]

What REALLY pisses me off is that I have a Colorado,
I have a Truck,
And I can't get insured on it until i'm 23

Is having the Colorado registered/insured to one of your parents or an older relative not an option?

[TurboSauce]

Nope. Insurance specifically doesn't want anyone under 23 driving it. Ageism but can you really blame them?
i've only had my license for a year with no moving or parking violations and no accidents to date.

[Bubba1]

Nope. Insurance specifically doesn't want anyone under 23 driving it. Ageism but can you really blame them?
i've only had my license for a year with no moving or parking violations and no accidents to date.

I'm confused. Are you're saying if the Colorado was your parents vehicle and you're on their policy, that you still can't drive it until you turn 23? Or are you saying that the insurance rates to add you to that car is so expensive that it makes sense not to insure you until you turn 23?

[TurboSauce]

The latter, I could get around it by making the policy open driver but. It's already 700+ a year without me on it.

[TurboSauce]

...

Once Again Bex hit the nail on the head.

Went to look at the Jeep, Its in okay condition,
but It needs a transfer case, New brake rotors and pads, Needs coolant change, Slight sludge buildup,
Bushings are completely worn, And there's rust on the frame rail on the right hand side as well as rust through the passenger side floor panel.

So I guess I'm just going to keep the torneo, as It doesn't need any work.

/end thread.

This thing has Crazy turning radius though, like seriously, when my brother drove it and went to turn out of a corner where in a car you'd lock the wheel, the jeep practically went sideways.

[nissangirl74]

[Mr1der]

Jeeps.

Just
Empty
Every
Pocket.

I like them, but won't own one. When I get to looking for a 4x4 it's likely gonna be a Nissan or Ford. Though I could get this Blazer (fullsize, think 2 door tahoe) for not much more than a grand off a coworker...

[Rex]

Have you looked at an Audi allroad. They were imported tot he US from 2001-2005, and they came with a twin turbo 6 speed. They have a pneumatic adjustable suspension that allows you to raise the car for "rough conditions" ~ 2 inches.

Aside from the normal "turbo car stuff", the 6 speeds aren't horrible from a reliability standpoint.

[Bubba1]

You might also consider an old Nissan Pathfinder or
toyota 4Runner. Better than a jeep and more reliable..

[Rex]

You might also consider an old Nissan Pathfinder or
toyota 4Runner. Better than a jeep and more reliable..

Good options as well, just look under them closely for rust.

[TurboSauce]

Have you looked at an Audi allroad. They were imported tot he US from 2001-2005, and they came with a twin turbo 6 speed. They have a pneumatic adjustable suspension that allows you to raise the car for "rough conditions" ~ 2 inches.

Aside from the normal "turbo car stuff", the 6 speeds aren't horrible from a reliability standpoint.

Good suggestion but way out of my price range

And the patty and 4runner are too large for my taste.
Don't kill me but I'm looking into getting an ek hatch or a 95-00 teggy. Sure they wont have much power or rear wheel drive but I'm a noob regardless, I've only been driving for a year legally.and I figure there's so much of them if something breaks I can replace it easily.
And I don't think I'm gonna get a Honda auto again. Mine is in great condition but it just feels bad. I'd love to get something off road capeable, and flood capable but if it floods I'll just do what panther does, keep the car home and catch a ride.

I even thought about doing a h22 swap and just keeping this one but why do a swap when I can just find a smaller better car cheaper and for less hassle.
Nassau certainly isn't your weekend warrior as a daily driver sort of place as it will put your car through the ringer but, it can be done. And then you also have to realize the island is 21x7' not much room for speed. So I think I would be better off with something simple and cheap until I can afford a z in the next few years. (when their price drops below 10k Maybe in the 5-7k range)

I'm young and I have time and if I'm patient enough and play my cards right I mint end up with a garage like Greg and bex, (just not with cars as old )

But keep the advice coming it really is appreciated. And thank you guys for all the help thus far

[TurboSauce]

Sometimes I read my own posts and realize my train of thought isn't the best, and for those of you that can't follow it I do apologize. But I will try to improve on that with every post, (I think I just get too excited here)

[OriginalWheelman]

Wait until next time someone gets a Skyline seized.
Have them export it to you for cheap.
Win.

[TurboSauce]

Doubt that'll happen but I'm open to it